I chose that mine is valid, an that can only be done by myself, with proof or not, I feel it to be, and once more, there are no contradictions in the bible, supporting my belief.

What you stated above should have been separated from the statement to Smoked, I read that quickly, and thought that you were saying that you need OSE to show that the Word was wrong. Careful next time!!

Careful next time!!!
Ok, I stand in the corner for the next 10 minutes as penitence !

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Haha! Lol Now stop that, or tsila will be furious we got off his topic.

Haha! lol Now stop that, or tsila will be furious we got off his topic.
I'm afraid she already is... She wants to close the topic anyway!!

:)

Tsila in action :

Cred I am amazed to see you have a sense of humor. That looks nothing like me by the way, but I have had those fits from time to time.

I wish we could communicate better, but anyway, thanks to my dear friend Unk,

Blessings in Christ.

If the one who posted the topic suggests that, I think it is indeed time for that. If you can't explain or reply to questions on your own topic header ....


Well not exactly YOUR question but THE question.. refer to # 12

I answered your question: Well, of course He did, who said He didn't? He had everyone on His mind, He died for everyone who has ever lived and for everyone who will live; He had each one of us in mind while He was on the cross.

If you want to make a big deal about the word ungodly... I was quoting the Word of God, which says 'there is none godly, no not one... " and “Christ died for the ungodly….”

That is why He came to die for the ungodly, which includes everyone; the good, the bad and the ugly.

Good enough?

In religion nothing is open to questioning, no Objective Supported Evidence is provided, and even the validity of dogma's is beyond discussion.
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If this is what you think I feel for you. You should question early in your growth. Objective supportive evidence? How about just looking at historical events that coincide with the events in the bible? But, you are right... When it comes to matters of morals and faith (dogma) I believe the bible gives the prescribed guidelines. Does that mean that its not debatable?

If it wasn't debatable then you could not come to a forum like this and actually talk about it right? If it wasn't debatable then a nation where over 70% of the populous professes Christianity would probably ostracize the other 30% into complete submission right? Wait, I am sorry you think that is what is currently happening.

I only posted a couple acceptable translations to expose the fact your argument on the point of contradiction was truly flawed. People see that and think I am trying to hit you over the head with a bible then the point will always be lost on them. For the people who are on the cusp of belief or disbelief they can see more then one jaded side of the story.

By the way when someone shares their beliefs, despite your vanity, its more for them and not you.

On a side note, I personally enjoy when we have a constructive conversation. I don't view this as a "us vs. them" scenario despite the fact it seems to go that direction. I just hope you realize that certain christian views are only shared by the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately the people who are against christian views only pick up on what even the Christians think is crazy whacked out junk.

Oh, and ask any scientist... if something better comes along they will abandon their current view in a heartbeat..

Way past time to close, thread closed