This came in as an email. Is there a constitutional lawyer out there who can tell us if the law quoted below is authentic or not?

CAN OBAMA LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT?

It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for
the following reason:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law
on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24,
1952 to November 13, 1986? Presidential office requires a natural-born
citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents. John McCain
was born to two US citizens even though he was born in the Panama Canal .

Law very clearly stipulates: ". If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the
time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for
at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."
Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18
when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10
years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory, not yet a
State... ) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years
**prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter
*after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for
automatic U.S. citizenship.

At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the
time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii . His mother would
have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's
birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she
was a young college student at the time, and was not. Barack Obama was
already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited
to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been
naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the
office.

Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. ***
Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info
does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S.
citizen for 10 years prior to his birth, on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those
years being after age 16. Furthermore, Obama may have had to have remained
in this country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had,
rather than living in Indonesia as he did.

And they say an official birth certificate has not been shown for him
One that looks like a copy and paste is being accepted by his followers

... who knows!
But they will probably come up with an exception and allow him to be pres if it were proven he is not a legal resident

... again who knows!

Nope, one of the scam emails, not worth the time to read all of it.

This is something surely worth looking into just to remove the doubt. It is much too important to just ignore.

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Where would we look to find the pertinent law and read it for ourselves? How about it, paralegals? I'm not in favor of ingnoring this until I read something definite.
Apologies, Chuck, but are you a lawyer or paralegal?

Galveston, with thousands of Republican lawyers licking their chops for the headlines in an effort to save John McCain from the jaws of defeat, wouldn't you think that if there was an ounce of evidence anyone of them would had already tried this case and won?? Multiple times over if possible?? We are talking highly educated people here. Listen! A similar ruckus was brought out against John McCain. John McCain and Barack Obama didn't become Senators and get nominated for the presidency incognito. Fr_Chuck is correct. It's just back and forth typical campaign nonsense that's generated on the web. BTW I worked a year in an OKC law firm back in the late 80's. No, I'm not a lawyer. I filed necessary documents for trying cases with the courts and assisted in billing, part time, back in the day.


snopes.com: Is Barack Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.? (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp)

Where would we look to find the pertinent law and read it for ourselves? How about it, paralegals? I'm not in favor of ingnoring this until I read something definite.
Apologies, Chuck, but are you a lawyer or paralegal?

Galv, here are very interesting findings from a researcher whose credentials are presented for all to read and are most impresssive. It shows in graphic detail what you and many others are trying to ascertain! Given these findings, this simply cannot be ignored any longer and must be addressed once and for all BEFORE the convention! Now is the time to push for serious consideration to this matter!

Forensics Expert: Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery : NO QUARTER (http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/forensics-expert-obama-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/#comment-482140)

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"Forensics Expert: Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery : NO QUARTER"

A nitwit wrote the article above and titled it as a "Birth Certificate," when the subject is a "Certificate of Live Birth" that was presented by KOS, not a birth certificate. Like I mentioned earlier, with all the money in the Pubs coffers (and during Hillary's campaign) they would had already done all the research and took this to court and won had there been real evidence to prove that Obama is not legally eligible to be president.


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After reading the report, the author's credentials, and seeing the differences pointed out, I am fully convinced that this smells like a fish market. The document is obviously false, and used to cover up--what?
Maybe the wrecking crew is waiting until a little nearer the Dem convention?
At any rate, this needs hearing in the courts in order to keep our political system free from this kind of cloud.

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Here you go. This question has been posted and here is the proof that everything is on the up and up.

It should be very interesting in lieu of what I've just read about him to see how it all goes. I hope it works out for all you Americans. I truly do. I have no opinion on the man, myself. I don't usually like to make judgement until I see some action. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. It's my belief that the U.S. is ready for some changes. I think he's a HUGE change. Let's just stand back and not assume the worst quite yet. I think good things are about to unfold, at the very least it will be very different than Bush's time on the throne. From what I gathered a lot of people. Didn't like the way Bush led the country. I also feel that the document is untrue. You can't believe everything that you read.

Have you noticed? The negative campaigning on this site is overwhelmingly with the McCain/Republican types. Also I haven't heard of any mass emails going out with false information about McCain.

Have you noticed? The negative campaigning on this site is overwhelmingly with the McCain/Republican types. Alos I haven't heard of any mass emails going out with false information about McCain.

Who needs false info about McCain when the truth does more damage. Do you think he ever asked anyone Hey can you give me directions on how to get to the information superhighway I've been driving around all day and I can't find it!!

I'm just waiting for the anti-Obama POTUS requirement lynch-necks to put their money where their mouths are and prove their charge through the legal system. They seem to think they know more about Obama than our government officials in knowledge of proof of eligibility. I beg the differ. They don't even read simple English in context as to "birth certificate" as opposed to "certificate of live birth," that was presented by KOS, which is not the certificate (or certificates) in Obama's possession. There's a very good reason that John McCain, with all the money Cindy has, is not pursuing legal counsel and taking this seriously. McCain's antiquated, sometime stubborn, and a bit out there on other issues, but he's not that foolish.

So it's a "Certificate of Live Birth". At the bottom, we are told that alterations void the certificate. If it were not an important document, alterations would mean nothing. We are not going to solve anything in this thread.
The certificate apparently was altered. The posting on the smear site merely shows a certificate, making no defence about the claim that it is altered or a forgery. If it was not altered, Obama should present the document to a reputable, independent, agency with the equipment and expertise to show the claims as false, not just post something saying it ain't so.
With all this, we don't even know for sure who he is.

Well Galveston if the KOS document in question is an important document to the government, why don't you prove what thousands of highly educated Republican lawyers cannot?? You really think they just let candidates swear into the presidential office without proof of qualifications?

Dear God,
How stupid is McCain to not know this and use this to invalidate this worthy opponent? McCain and his advisers must be total idiots to miss this, who in their right mind would vote for such inept people??

None of your rants explain the alterations. Maybe there is some legal action being initiated. Who knows? ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and maybe FOX are not likely to tell us, now are they?

None of your rants explain the alterations. Maybe there is some legal action being initiated. Who knows? ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and maybe FOX are not likely to tell us, now are they?McCain needs the media to report it before he acts on it? Is this what you are telling me?

So it's a "Certificate of Live Birth". At the bottom, we are told that alterations void the certificate. If it were not an important document, alterations would mean nothing. We are not going to solve anything in this thread.
The certificate apparently was altered. The posting on the smear site merely shows a certificate, making no defence about the claim that it is altered or a forgery. If it was not altered, Obama should present the document to a reputable, independent, agency with the equipment and expertise to show the claims as false, not just post something saying it ain't so.
With all this, we don't even know for sure who he is.


So let me get this straight you take a random email you received (I am sure a trusted friend forwarded it to you) as truth. But when his BC is sitting right there from Obama's own website that can't be true. Let me ask you have you started the process of giving a Nigerian man money because he emailed you and told you he has millions and just needs someone from the U.S. to help him get the money? Cause if you believe this email about Obama's BC then you surely fell for that Nigerian scam.

And did you bother to go to post #7, go to the link and READ the report? I didn't think so.

Yes I did but once I saw it was written by Texasdarling and TechDUDE two very well respect journalist of our times I stopped reading. I'll tell you what once the BBC reports it Then I will believe his BC is fake.

You saw who wrote the article, but didn't bother to read it or even look at the pictures. How illuminating about the attitude of liberals. Were there too many big words there?

How about this?
Michelle's comment that (Barak's mother) "was very young and very single"
Obama referring to his "single mom".
Stanley Ann Dunham went to Mercer Island in 1961. Why was she there?

I don't know about all those BIG words I only graduated from U of PENN (IVY LEAGUE) so I don't think I can understand them. So Since you want to assume people are stupid please Gal where did you graduate from??

I don't read BS article by people who do not even use their real names. Yeah I saw those pictures right along side all the anti obama ads. Obama's mom Graduated from Mercer Isalnd High School in 1960 so I don't see your point you can read ALL about it from a REAL journalist you can follow this link BARACK OBAMA: His mother Stanley Ann Dunham -- chicagotribune.com (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0703270151mar27,0,1310554.story)

Ivy league! Wow, I'm underwhelmed!
You keep trying to change the subject. The allegation has been made that the COLB for Barak Obama has been altered. None of you have cited anything of substance to refute that allegation.
What part of "Any alterations invalidate this certificate" do you not understand?
If it has indeed been altered, then it is worthless.
Don't change the subject. Tell us exactly why you don't think it has been altered. Nothing else matters in this discussion.
Maybe this deserves its own thread.

Yea he can.he has amazing ideas for our country.hes great.better than george bush and hilary clintin.:o

Psst... Galveston go get the best Republican lawyer available. Make sure to drain your savings account and mortgage the house. They'll laugh at you behind your back, but at the same time the firm will be glad to take your money and assign you a greenhorn law clerk for practise purposes. I promise to follow your case as you attempt to prove that a false COLB, that was presented by KOS, is the reason that Obama can't legally be president. Go gettem tiger. :)

What part of "Any alterations invalidate this certificate" do you not understand?
If it has indeed been altered, then it is worthless.
Don't change the subject. Tell us exactly why you don't think it has been altered. Nothing else matters in this discussion.
Maybe this deserves its own thread.

Here is why I don't think it is altered. Because this website you have that PROVES it is altered is no different to me then those websites that say they can PROVE the planes that were flown into the Pentagon were not planes they were missiles. And that the WTC were blown up from the inside. Hey maybe you do believe the pentagon and WTC were not blown up by terrorist and maybe that is why you believe the credibility of Texasdarlin and Techdude.

As far as I can tell most people would agree with me since this is never on the news and Just like everyone has said the republican lawyers would have been all over this and Hillary would be the nominee. Plain and simple.

I can think of another reason he should not be President.

With friends like Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Father Flager, and Resco, I don't think for one minute that were he to be subjected to the normal investigation performed on EVERY American who is required to have a Top Secret Security Clearance with access to Special Intelligence, that he could even come close to passing!

The problem is, for some incredible oversight, there is no requirement that any person running for President, be able to pass such an investigation, either before or after being elected.

You would think that the President should, at the very least, undergo the same type of investigation that EVERY other individual must undergo for such a clearance.

Like Bill Clinton, he gets a free pass on any such process.

I think that this needs to be fixed.

As an enlisted serviceman, assigned to the National Security Agency, the investigators who preformed my background check even spoke with some of my Middle School Teachers, and the parents of friends I knew when I was only 13 to 15 years old.

Imagine the conversations they would have with Obama's elite group of colorful associates?

Tomder55 agrees: got to agree with you on this one.

Thank you sir.

Here is why I don't think it is altered. Because this website you have that PROVES it is altered is no different to me then those websites that say they can PROVE the planes that were flown into the Pentagon were not planes they were missiles. And that the WTC were blown up from the inside. Hey maybe you do believe the pentagon and WTC were not blown up by terrorist and maybe that is why you believe the credibility of Texasdarlin and Techdude.
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FYI, I do not believe any of those theories about missiles or inside explosives. I do not believe anything that is patently ridiculous. Is that what Texasdarlin & Techdude say? Or is it just a convienent comparison?

I find the fact that a party hack from Chicago can be elected to the Senate, and without even completing his first term become the presumptive candidate of the Democratic party for the president of the USA. That is a political Cindrella story that seems to have come true, and all that raises a red flag for me. There is mass manipulation going on, and I believe time will prove me right.

How many of you ever heard of Barak Obama before the press puffed him? I know I never did. His candidacy has been carefully crafted and packaged and you are falling for it.

How many of you ever heard of Barak Obama before the press puffed him? I know I never did. His candidacy has been carefully crafted and packaged and you are falling for it.
The first time I ever heard Obama's name was in 06 from a rapper named Common who is from the south side of Chicago. I had no Idea who he was talking about and since Common is NOT like the garbage rappers they play on the radio and TV and actually talks about improving his community I figured he was worth checking out to see what he was all about. I came across his speech at the 04 DNC and I was a supporter instantly.

This came in as an email. Is there a constitutional lawyer out there who can tell us if the law quoted below is authentic or not?

CAN OBAMA LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT?

It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for
the following reason:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law
on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24,
1952 to November 13, 1986? Presidential office requires a natural-born
citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents. John McCain
was born to two US citizens even though he was born in the Panama Canal.



There is also other information about Obama having Dual Citizenship in the U.S. and Kenya and not having renounced his Kenyan citizenship. The point is -WHY did he not bring this out? Must Reading! Scroll down to find story.

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Hi again skygem, Obama was born I'm Hawaii that's part of america :) therefore he is an american

The first time I ever heard Obama's name was in 06 from a rapper named Common who is from the south side of Chicago. I had no Idea who he was talking about and since Common is NOT like the garbage rappers they play on the radio and TV and actually talks about improving his community I figured he was worth checking out to see what he was all about. I came across his speech at the 04 DNC and I was a supporter instantly.


Do you know the song name by any chance

Do you know the song name by any chance
He actually said this in 2004 (I thought it came out in '06) on the remix of the song "Why" Years kind of run together for me.

[Common]
Why do they say I changed for a girl
Why you worried about my clothes if my flow going to change the world
Why you wait till you 30 then try to be hard
Why I got to have religion if I believe in God
Why is Bush acting like he trying to get Osama
Why don't we impeach him and elect Obama
Why ain't Rick James remembered for classic hits
Why do we remember Rick for smackin a
Why did Ricky Williams retire, they mad at Miami
Why did Justin sell Janet out and go to the Grammy's
Why you kill on every song, why you frown at discriminance
So many thrones, why we argue who is the King
Why it's over for gangsta, why it's over for bling
Why they hype Britney up, they know she can't sing
Why a whip and a chain the black american dream
Why I know it in my heart it remains unseen
Why

Your actually partly right it is the remix to the song "Why" with Styles P, Jada, Common and Nas. Check the link.

http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/jadakiss/rm_bside/whyremix.kss.txt

Only in America.
Can we elect a President who was...

A rich whiskey barons son.
A crook in denial.
A peanut farmer.
A co star to a monkey.
A dope dealing, secret agent, oil man.
A saxophone playing slick talking sex fiend.
A son of a dope dealing, secret agent oil man, who can't speak english.

And be worried about a brother who can hit a set shot, and speak perfect english??

Only in America.

Not a lawyer here, but I think this issue will be resolved immediately and he can be legally eligible.

I think that email was from McCain...

Obama was born in Hawaii, for the slightly dumb people, Hawaii is apart of America. Therefore he can be president