I've got the Seats & Springs to fix a leaky Delta Monitor 1400 Series faucet (and the water is turned off), and am stuck at the very beginning. The handle is a single lever, it appears that the Set Screw is missing. I've tried twisting the lever and pulling without success - not knowing which is the way it should come off, I'm afraid to put too much pressure on it.
The "Escutcheon" came off easily, and the trim sleeve slides forward and back (a fraction of an inch), I assume I need the handle off to proceed.
Help?

The pictures below may help you.

Regards,
John

Embarrassing to admit it, but my question is REALLY more basic - the valve (part #1 with the black square in your picture) - screw (#2) appears out, but I don't know whether to exert more pressure to PULL it off, or to TWIST it off (presumably counterclockwise).
Thx

it appears that the Set Screw is missing.

That makes me think that you have not remove the screw. Note that it is probably recessed down in the hole and not flush with the surface.

I'm pretty sure there is no screw in there, I've shone my flashlight (tried to take a picture, not sure how to post it).
By your answer/question, it should be very easy to remove (and obvious whether it's a twist or pull) if there is no screw in it?

I can't tell from picture, gets to distorted when I enlarge it. Insert allen wrench, starting with a small one then working up. When you get to proper size you will know it by feel. If screw was not there normal use would have loosened the handle. It should pull off if screw is loosened. Corrosion may be holding it on but unlikely. If you believe screw is out grasp handle by the tip and pull then push to rock handle back and forth. If corrosion is what is holding it own this will loosen and you will see movement around handle stem.

Neither worked - there isn't a lot of corrosion, and it doesn't budge when I pull it, so you're likely right and I just don't have the right size hex -or enough strength - almost broke the one that seemed to fit best, but no luck (my set it metric, maybe it needs imperial, or whatever non-metric is called).
Thanks (:confused: and I thought this would be easy)
Ev

If you allen wrench seamed to fit but was not the correct size then the set screw is in there. These days its hard to say when something will be metric or imperial. Just got to get the correct wrench.

It is a small set screw. Sometimes it is hard to engage with allen wrench. Try again. Otherwise, the handle should pull out straight forward.

Some time the set screw gets rusted please use some WD40 and leave it soaked for a few minutes then try the Allen wrench, good luck, Thanks.

Regards,
John

WD40 is a wonderful thing! (yup, there was a hex nut in there, and I had the right size allen wrench).
I finally got in, replaced the seats & springs, unfortunately still have a drip (did try the suggestions I see in other threads, from dog e dog, answered by speedball1, flushed the open valve, was very careful to have the seats flat on a clean smooth surface, etc), so next step is likely the whole valve assembly. (?)
Thanks!

I am assuming you inserted springs and cup-like washers the right way. If so, than try to tighten up the Adjustment Ring a bit. It is marked "A" in sketch #1, and marked #3 in sketch #2.

If you can't get rid of that last drip you might want to try replacing the ball (part 6). A small scratch in the balls surface can cause a drip even thought the springs and seals have been replaced.

My mechanism doesn't seem to have those same parts... looks simpler than your diagram.

Then I'd go for replacing Part A and not just the springs and seats.

U said there was a hex nut in there... with what did you take it out?
The allen keys? Or was there some other tooll?
I'm having the same problem

Hi hosuklover,

You need a small allen wrench to remove the set screw item #2 in the picture below, Thanks.

Regards,
John

I have the same problem as you , it's so ironic that's this is so recent like mine!
I have a leaky shower spout so I went everywhere to home depot and other services told me the same thing. Replace the cartridegeor the o-rings...
Got stuck on #1 on this diagram (above where is sais "Valve cartridege") didn't know how to take the rest out.. I believe that was the part for the cartridege..

But my question to all of you is would it fix the leaky spout by replacing the whole faucet and the spout for a new one??

That means got to spend like $200-$500 bucks on a plumber don't I?

I don't think you will need to spend that much money if you have some tools and can turn wrenches, here are a lot of experts will lead you how to change the cartridge or the seals and will save you a lot of money, can you post the model number or a picture of you faucet will be great,Thanks.

John

Hi hosuklover,
It was the WD40 (letting it soak) that made all the difference in removing the hex nut - from my first submissions, you can tell I was convinced there wasn't one there. The allen wrench that worked for me was a "#3 (I think that's 3mm) from my bicycle set. It was awkward, but worked.
A web site that helped me then take all the pieces apart was (even though my handle was different, the rest was the same):
Replacing Seals In A Delta Rotary Bath Faucet (http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/replseal.html)
It also helped having another identical shower faucet, which I ended up taking apart when I got mixed up (note to self - pay REALLY close attention to how things work while removing the pieces - digital photos work, too). Believe me, if I can do this, so can you! (but I may end up having to call the plumber anyway if the next step, i.e. replacing the valve itself, doesn't work).
GOod luck,
Ev

Hey... the website that you posted there it's the same as mine...
I was stuck from "removal of the brass collar".
But my question is why am I removing all these things in the first place?
What do I have to look for @ this point?
If the O-rings insde are worn? Or to replace the whole cartridge?

Thanks http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/pbtfa10.jpg

Hi Hosulover,

If you follow the instructions on the link which EvNeed help has posted will show how the seals gets worn and need to replaced, the worse case will be to replace the housing, good Luck.

John

Alrighty..
We just took the plates out and we found leaking at the back of the tube.. or something.. :

Good luck, please let us know what exactly you found, Thanks.

John

I have a shower that has a single handle that you pull to turn on, and move left for cold water, and right for hot water. Somehow the person cleaning the tub, tile, and fixtures managed to move the handle which was facing down before, by jumping the two prongs that control how much you turn the handle to the upward position. I looked at the one handle fixure, and it has a hole. It is not for a screw, I'm not sure of its function. I wonder if I attempt to push on it will the two prongs withdraw? I don't really know, that is why I am asking you how I can place the handle back to its lower position like it was before. Tjm

Pleas tell us the brand and the model number of your faucet or post a picture will help, Thanks.

John

I have a delta monitor 1400 series I have removed the hex nut and I still can't remove the handle I have done what you said earlier to push and pull and it will eventually loosen it, I have had no success. Is there something I am forgetting to remove aside the hex nut I am holding in my hand??

Open the link below and will tell you step by step and also see the image, Thank.

John

Replacing Seals In A Delta Rotary Bath Faucet To Fix Leak (http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/replseal.html)

Can someone tell me what "size allen set-screw" this handle originally came with? The handle was getting loose so I tried every allen wrench I have and none of them seems to fit. It is too dark to even see if the screw has been lost. If you can tell me the standard (allen wrench) set-srew allen size for the handle then I can try that size and determine if I need to order a new handle or ? Thanks

The best option will be to Call Delta at 800-345-3358 and explain your problem they will tell the size of the allen wrench and will send you a new handle no cost to you, Good luck.

John

Had the same issue. What worked was the screwdriver that looks like a star at the end.

I'm having the same problem. I removed the set screw from my Zurn Tempgard III handle, but cannot remove the handle. Put some white vinager on it. No luck. Tried 20wt machine oil, nada. Put PB Blaster and still nothing. Have put a small flat pry bar between the handle and escutcheon and tried to loosen it. Am afraid I'll break the handle. Of course, no customer service on the weekends. Steve

Did you remove the set screw from the handle completely? Most of the time you only need to loosen it but every once and a while you find a design where the screw has to be completely removed.

A torx screw, maybe?

Hi Ned and Welcome to The Plumbing Page. At AskMeHelpDesk.com. You're responding to a 4 year old dead thread. Look in then upper left hand corner of the first post for the date in the first post before you post, Thanks, Tom

Is the above picture a 600 model if so where can I get parts for the interal stops

As posted The best option will be to Call Delta at 800-345-3358 and explain your problem Good luck, Tom

Hi there,
Again, same problem here : can't remove the screw (part #2) so I just sprayed some "wd-40" like (jig-a-loo). Will now re-try but I am afraid the screw pattern is dead now.
Does anyone would have suggestions in the case I can't get any grip on the screw? Should I use a drill to make a hole in it?
Problem would be that I won't be able to attach the handle again, I guess...

Any help will be greatly appreciated! :-)

Thank you.

Confirming I can't remove the screw... :-((

This is a Allen Head screw and not a slotted screw. Correct? Back to you, Tom

This is a Allen Head screw and not a slotted screw. correct? Back to you, Tom

Yes it is a Allen screw head. I used both imperial and metric Allen wrenches and I think I have worn it... :-(

Would this be a Delta tub and shower valve? If not wha'st your brand name? Back to you Tom

Yes if I get what you mean (English is not my mother tongue, hence I don't know all the technical terms).
It is in my shower cabin.
The Delta T13120 looks a lot like mine but without the tub faucet of course (since it is for a shower only).
Thanks Tom.

The fifthYou have options . You can fill the screw out and tap In another one or called Delta at Call Delta at 800-345-3358
Order a new handle. Good luck, Tom

The fifthYou have options . You can fill the screw out and tap In another one or called Delta at Call Delta at 800-345-3358
order a new handle. Good luck, Tom

Tom, I don't understand how you remove the screw (inside the handle) if there is no way to have any grip on it.
Thank you for Delta number.
Cheers.

Hey Tom,
Just wanted to let you know I called Delta tech support. They suggested me to drill in the screw and then remove the handle. I will have to replace it and maybe the ball too.

Thank you for your help!

How do you remove the ball that holds the seats and springs when it doesn't come out with the whole cartridge

I think I used pliers, making sure not to tight them too hard.

I have the same issue removing the handle. Tried a few times but had no luck loosening the allen screw. By the way size is 1/8 allen wrench. I tried socking it with Liquid wrench and waiting for 15 min, but the allen wrench keeps slipping. May be I will try WD40.

You need to Drill it out the Allen screw head, good luck.
John