I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
A. people making love to each other
Or
B. people killing each other.

Which would you prefer?

Definitely people making love to each other, it's a natural beautiful act, although better done behind closed doors, I'd still rather that then people killing each other.

I would however have to cover my kids eyes, not ready to have the entire "sex talk" yet. ;)

God help anyone who would answer B.

I will stick with A thank you.

OK I'll admit it I am a little of a prude, but if I had to choose one I'd choose it would be A. now why would anyone want to see people killing each other?

I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God. So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets. A. people making love to each other or B. people killing each other. Which would you prefer?
You did not specify other background information that could influence the approach to an answer to this question.
Excluding the situation in which the community the person - who is asked to answer lives in - is under deep stress and under threat of being attacked and destroyed (so where self-defensive is required), each person here will answer possibility A, that people make love to each other .

But actually that answer is just as illogical and objectionable as answer B, as making love to all people around you is also not a realistic option.
Keeping to my own position half of the people who live around me are males, and I have no need or wish to make love to males. Also I feel no need to make love to the majority of women. I have a very good woman as permanent mate, but occasionally meet another woman who by her presence and approach activates hormones in my body that remind me that males are natural "hunters" in all aspects of life.

The question should have been : A. people who love each other, or B. people killing each other.
If it was asked that way, my reply would be A.

:D

Cred
I asked the question as the author of the book asked it.

Plain and simple. Which would you rather see, not which you would rather engage in.

It is a totally ridiculous question except in times of the total destruction of civilization!

NEITHER, thank you. :)

Wow, you all are taking this a bit too seriously, it's a question, with only two
Very specific answers, one or the other, which will it be? It's really not
Difficult to decide based on the way the question is phrased and the answers
That are available. It's a no brainer really. ;)

Rather not see either but at least the naked people can both be arrested and no innocent person is hurt.

Lol fr.. love it

Cred : I asked the question as the author of the book asked it. Plain and simple. Which would you rather see, not which you would rather engage in.
The problem with that approach is : why do you repeat a question by someone else, if that question is meaningless and/or irrelevant because of it's incorrect wording ?

:rolleyes:

Credendovidis, it's called freedom of speech and freedom of the press etc. etc.
It may be irrelevant to you, but obviously it wasn't to the author. The fact of the
Matter is that this is the way the author wrote it, and this is the question that he/she
Has put forth. You don't have to answer, that's up to you, as you also have freedom
Of speech, nes pas?

Credendovidis, it's called freedom of speech and freedom of the press etc. etc.
The laws of the US republic are not relevant in this discussion.
My point is that the question is meaningless because of it's incorrect wording.
One may of course post meaningless questions.
But I may of course just as well also post my response in which I explain why such questions are meaningless...

:rolleyes:

Cred, If I had wanted an input on the wording, I would have pm'd you. Why must you try to control every thread (nah don't answer). Bye, Go away, shoo.

Well Credendovidis, I don't live in the US either, but I still covet my right
To say what I feel and think, because that is a human right. You are in fact
Using your freedom of speech at this very moment, so I think you may agree
With that.

And yes, you do have the right to state your opinion about the question, you also
Have the right to not respond if you find the question or post to be silly or not relevant
To you or your life.

How is the wording incorrect, it's pretty cut and dry, black and white, choose one
Or the other, or choose to abstain from choosing, it's not hard dear, you're just making
It hard. I guess I'm making it hard too by getting into this discussion with you.

We agree to disagree, obviously. What you choose is your choice, and your opinion,
As it is also my choice and opinion what I choose. So be it. :)

I have not changed my choice, make love not war, so definitely A. :)

Cred, If I had wanted an input on the wording, I would have pm'd you. Why must you try to control every thread (nah don't answer). Bye, Go away, shoo.
What a laughable and silly comment that is!!
Next time you post a question do not forget to state that you only like to receive supporting comments... LOL

:D

Yep, your right, your aways right support me or go away:D

Well Credendovidis, I don't live in the US either
Lucky you too ! :)
Once more : the point is that the question is meaningless as it is.
Whoever likes to reply as per the original question : just go ahead.
And for those who prefer to post their opinion based on a serious format of a moral or ethical approach, just include whatever you think of the question in your reply.

After all, the inquisition years are fortunately already a couple of hundred years in the past!

:rolleyes:

yep, your right, your aways right support me or go away:D
"your right" , "aways" : what gibberish is that?

:D

Cred, this is a question that an author wrote in a book that bushg is reading. What
Part of all that are you having trouble understanding? It's not her question, she didn't
Make it up, nor did she write the words that formed that question.

It is an interesting question, and many people gave their answers. Not you, you decided to start an argument about the wording, and the meaning, and why this, and why that, are you having some trouble understanding the question, should I break it down for you word by word, would that help?

There are no supporting comments or negative comments for this type of questions, A or B, there is no C, jeesh!

You seem to like to cause controversy, well dear, bushg is a respected member of this
Site, so I suggest that maybe you respect her wishes and stop posting on this thread if
All you are going to do is disparage it.

Cred, this is a question that an author wrote in a book that bushg is reading.
Alt : I know that. I can read too. But I can THINK and CONCLUDE also.
Your point does not change the fact that the question makes no sense as it is. Specially as the subject has a moral/ethical basis...

:rolleyes:

Oh for goodness sake. Cred, if you want to argue with me then pick something
Worthy of arguing about. Moral/ethical basis, are you sure you can read? It's a question
It isn't a question that you are going to have to answer with a gun to your head, it's a
Simple question with two very simple answers, how many times do I have to say that?

Think, and conclude, that's your right, as is your opinion, but, as I've
Already stated numerous times, there are only two choices in this instance, A or B, Bushg did not ask what you thought of the way the question was worded, or the choices that are given, she asked a simple question. If morally you cannot decide between the two answers that move on, that is also your right.

I've said what I want to say, obviously I'm not going to get this through your thick skull, and I'm not going to argue about something like this. If you want to argue with me then
Go to a thread about animal abuse and whether it's right, or abortion, or premarital sex, shoplifting, you name it, those are things that are worthy of discussion, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we were on the opposite side of the fence on those
Issues as well.

Bushg, I think it was a very interesting question, and I took it the way it was meant to
Be taken. I stand by my choice, and I realize that even though that is the choice that I
Made, in the long run it will effect no one, as it is only a hypothetical question. Sorry
That I am arguing on your thread, I will stop now as I no longer see the point of continuing this discussion.

Alty out. :)

Oh for goodness sake.
Earth to Altenweg : Hello Altenweg!!

Since when is the difference between making love to people, loving people, and killing people not an important moral and ethical point, that validates a precise discussion?

Get real !

:rolleyes:

"your right" , "aways" : what gibberish is that?

:D

Did you just come here to insult everyone in your path? Must you have the upper hand? This started as a simple question from a book, and you decided you must have a heated debate. You are being a bully. Yes, big word isn't it? BULLY! Does that turn your crank? Have a poke at me too, if you'd like.

By the way, I agree, just in case you're interested. My answer is A!

It is a *stupid fantasy* question... the choices bear no resemblance to any possible real life situation! It makes no sense in an argument/debate about anything. This is the stuff of McBooks and BSing.

A thinking person can point that out. :)

A,

FYI, Crendo is a valued member of this site, too.

Unless you want to claim that this is a private club?

If someone just wants to come to someone's thread just to insult them, and speak of Gibberish, I believe that they are also speaking Jabberwocky, Gobbledygoo, Mumbo Jumbo, nonsense!

What are you talking about?

This is a religious *discussion* board... a person can point out that the question is total nonsense when used as some sort of example of *serious* religious thinking. :)

Okay, this is getting out of hand. This is a simple question, a hypothetical question no less. For goodness sake people, should I reword it for you, will that help?

Would you rather see;

A. Two people having sexual intercourse on the street.
or
B. Two people killing each other on the street.

Feel free to reword that if you must, this is ridiculous. Why did I start arguing with Cred, well, because he has to make a controversy out of every little thing, and quite frankly it's getting annoying. I too have the use of the english language at my disposal, and I too have a thinking brain, thank you very much.

Really I am done, this is the stupidest argument I've ever gotten in to, about something that in the long run doesn't amount to anything. It's hypothetical, get over yourselves Cred and Choux.

And yes, we are all valued members on this site, as such, I too have the right to voice my opinion, and when I see someone being attacked over a thread such as this, I feel the need to step in, because it isn't right. Sorry if I offended any of you, but I was offended as well, so I guess we're even.

Really, I'm done, stick a fork in me. Maybe this thread should be closed.

I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
A. people making love to each other
or
B. people killing each other.

Which would you prefer?

And this is why it was posted in the religious discussions board, any questions?

Now, really, I am done. I will no longer respond on this thread, I don't want to end up
Saying something I'll regret, so far I haven't, but I can feel it coming on.

If you want a real argument, then choose something worthy of arguing about, this isn't it, even though I fell in to the trap and argued. To bad I can't go back and just ignore what was said, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, not going to happen.

I'm out, argue amongst yourselves.

What are you talking about?

This is a religious *discussion* board.....a person can point out that the question is total nonsense when used as some sort of example of *serious* religious thinking. :)

Get over it already. Bushg explained why she posted this thread under religion, and I didn't know that it was up to you to decide which questions were nonsense!

Done!

Originally Posted by bushg
I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
A. people making love to each other
or
B. people killing each other.

Which would you prefer?

Of course my answer would be A.

(Joe)

I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
A. people making love to each other
or
B. people killing each other.

Which would you prefer?

I am sure I will not be comfortable watching people make love outside in the streets:eek: ,nor would I be comfortable watching people kill one another:eek: .

Those are hard to choose from as far as I can see.
Natural ways of mankind seems that making love would be in privacy while killing for the sake of killing(like serial killers etc) too would be in some sort of privacy unless it was in a war or related to a war zone.

I am sure I will not be comfortable watching people make love outside in the streets:eek: ,nor would I be comfortable watching people kill one another:eek: .

Those are hard to choose from as far as I can see.
Natural ways of mankind seems that making love would be in privacy while killing for the sake of killing(like serial killers etc) too would be in some sort of privacy unless it was in a war or related to a war zone.

I agree Firmy, although I do agree with the premise of "make love, not war". I would not like to see either, but I have a choice so I pick A, and would give them a hundred bucks and tell them to get a room! ;)... and not billions of dollars to go kill people... some of which are totally innocent bystanders.

Oops, I said I was "done" right? LOL! :D

Did you just come here to insult everyone in your path?
Who says I insult everyone? What is true is that I made a point that got some people here rather upset. Totally unnecessary !


Must you have the upper hand? This started off as a simple question from a book, and you decided you must have a heated debate.
Nonsense. All I posted was that the question (one who refers to moral and ethics) contains a major logical flaw, a flaw I specified sufficiently and clearly. It are those who do not like my comment who blew this all up into a heated debate.


You are being a bully. Yes, big word isn't it? BULLY! Does that turn your crank? Have a poke at me too, if you'd like.
I do not poke at individuals here. I addressed the flaw in the question that started this discussion.


By the way, I agree, just in case you're interested. My answer is A!
My answer is also A, and that just indicates that the question is also meaningless when the question is read as it is. Anyone answering B is better be taken to a mental institution immediately.

:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Credendovidis


(QUOTE) I do not poke at individuals here. I addressed the flaw in the question that started this discussion.



You stated your point, and that was fine, but then you had to carry on with your theory. You DID poke at individuals here! You belittled both Bushg, and Altenweg with your rude, and quite frankly, demeaning comments to both of them. I'm not going to waste my time in quoting you, as you did me, but maybe have a look back at the things that you wrote. Not appropriate at all.

You stated your point, and that was fine, but then you had to carry on with your theory. You DID poke at individuals here!
You are entitled to your opinion. And I am entitled to disagree with that !

:D

You are entitled to your opinion. And I am entitled to disagree with that !

:D

Buh'bye now dear! Have a nice day! :)

Buh'bye now dear! Have a nice day! :)
Bye bye to you too... till your next post !

:D

Those are hard to choose from as far as I can see.
Sure. But what did you choose? A or B ? Or do you reject both as irrelevant or nonsensical alternatives?

:rolleyes:

... FYI, Crendo is a valued member of this site, too.
Thanks MS ! I note that the "intolerance brigade" rears it's ugly head here again...

:D

Bye bye to you too .... till your next post !

:D

And may God bless

And may God bless
Thanks!

:D

*Discussing* involves differing opinions being offered. Why do some people immediately take an attitude about everything that doesn't agree with their opinions? Why do some people have to have opposing opinions stated with a huge dose of patting another with an different opinion on the head like they are a puppy. One can simply state their opinion in simple straightforward words... like: it was an unrealistic question, nonsense. The discussion can go on from there.

"your right" , "aways" : what gibberish is that?

:D


And we're the intolerance bregade?

:rolleyes:

*Discussing* involves differing opinions being offered. Why do some people immediately take an attitude about everything that doesn't agree with their opinions?? Why do some people have to have opposing opinions stated with a huge dose of patting another with an different opinion on the head like they are a puppy. One can simply state their opinion in simple straightforward words....like: it was an unrealistic question, nonsense. The discussion can go on from there.
How true, Choux !

;)

"your right" , "aways" : what gibberish is that?

And we're the intolerance bregade?
That is a non-answer... and please note that "bregade" is also gibberish !

:D

That is a non-answer ... and please note that "bregade" is also gibberish !

:D

I promised I would not come back, but if you are the spelling Police, I would check out one of your earlier posts! Is "Specially" a word Cred? I would check your dictionary for that one my dear. What is wrong with you? This really does float your boat doesn't it!! Do you really feel the need to be a bully again? Just in case you didn't understand that, it was a rhetorical question. More Jabberwocky nonsense!

I promised I would not come back, but if you are the spelling Police, I would check out one of your earlier posts!
No I am not the spelling police. But if someone almost misspells each second word in his or her post, there is nothing against drawing some attention to that!

Note that I realize very well that I too make spelling mistakes (we all do), but I have to smile that you had to go back that far before finding one made by me : not bad at all for someone for whom English is only his third language!!

:D :D :D :D :D

What exactly is your problem? I did not have to go back to remember that you spelled that word wrong. I noticed it when you wrote it! I do in fact have better and more important things to attend to, than to keep up this ridiculous banter on Bushg's thread.

I don't think that anyone on this site doesn't make the occasional spelling error, but is that a reason to point it out, just to make your point, and try and make someone else appear to be stupid or illiterate? If that is what you want to do, go into some of the teen threads where their language doesn't have a semblance of any language. Go correct their spelling errors!

FYI (in case you don't understand the lingo, that means "for your information") I am a woman, and will not put up with verbal abuse from you or anyone else. You are trying to play silly games over what started to be a "quote" from an Author. If you want a good argument, ask who wrote the book that Bushg got this from and go and bother him with your nonsensical words.

English just happens to be my first language, by the way! I do speak other languages, but I won't say what I would like to say in any of those. How many times do people have to say... shooo fly, don't bother me?!

This is Bushg's thread, and I believe she has the right to her questions. If you don't agree, then move on and let others answer the original question. You've given your opinion! Go find another playpen!

What exactly is your problem?
It is more appropriate to ask YOU what is YOUR problem ?
Repeatedly you promise not to come back, but minutes later there you are again and again and again with comments and complaints that have nothing to do with the lead question.


I am a woman..
Total irrelevant point. Has nothing to do with your aggressive behaviour here!


... and will not put up with verbal abuse from you or anyone else.
And neither will I, so keep to the topic, and leave others to their opinion. If my comment that the provided choice makes no sense and is therefore without any value bothers you, than just ignore me. By waffling on like you do already a couple of days, it is you who puts up the verbal abuse, and not I.

May I suggest you reduce your coffee intake and calm down a little bit ?

:D :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes: :D

It's all clear now Cred. You say that English is your third language, well now I
Know why you don't understand the question. So sorry, I didn't realize that it
Wasn't a matter of being pig headed, but a lack of understanding on your part, I
Do apologize. Had you just told us from the start that you're having trouble
Understanding the question and the answers then we could have tried to write it
In a way you'd understand. I really wish we had been made aware of this before
We all started to argue, but I can't know what you don't tell. Now that I do know
I'll make allowances in the future.

Oh, and sorry for the spelling mistake. Please feel free to go back and edit the
Rest of my posts, always willing to see where I went wrong. :)

Oh, just fyi, English isn't my first language either, but I have been speaking it
For most of my life. You're doing really well writing and answering in English,
But sometimes positioning of certain words, and figuring out what the speaker,
Or in this case, writer is trying to say, takes a while longer, keep at it, you'll
Be fluent in no time. :)

It's all clear now Cred. You say that English is your third language, well now I know why you don't understand the question.
But dear Altenweg : I understand the question you posted properly. The only problem with it is that the question you posted - being a copy of the one in the book you referred to - makes no sense to anyone using even the most basic format of logic in his/her thinking.
It does not pose a real choice. The provided answers A and B are not of equal value nor validity.

That also may be the reason for so many negative responses by theists on my pointing out of the major flaw in the question. May be that resulted from theists lacking logical approach and realistic thinking, as they base their lives on hot air wild claims which evolved over time from myths and fears.

:D

Cred,
It's a question, it'd not that's its illogical, it that she wanted our oppinions, I don't get why you made such a huge deal about it, you and alt argued for pages and pages because (if I am understanding thhis right) you didn't think it was good question. Come on, it's a question not a logic theisis, she read it in a book and wanted to know what people thought, and you made such a huge deal, I don't get you. You made a huge deal out of nothing. OK OK, whatever

But dear Altenweg : I understand the question you posted properly. The only problem with it is that the question you posted - being a copy of the one in the book you referred to - makes no sense to anyone using even the most basic format of logic in his/her thinking.
It does not pose a real choice. The provided answers A and B are not of equal value nor validity.

That also may be the reason for so many negative responses by theists on my pointing out of the major flaw in the question. May be that resulted from theists lacking logical approach and realistic thinking, as they base their lives on hot air wild claims which evolved over time from myths and fears.

:D

Cred, I didn't post the question, Bushg did, I don't even know the title of the book, I haven't read it. Or did you no read that properly either?

All I did is respond, A, that's my choice, there's only two choices, A or B, what's the problem?

Your disagreement isn't logical, your argument is ridiculous. The fact remains, it's a quote from a book, you don't have to agree with the wording, but to pick it apart here is ridiculous, as there's nothing that we can do to change the way it's worded, it's a quote. I suggest that if you have a problem with the wording that you write to the author, tell him what you are upset about, ask if he can personally change the wording so that you can be happy and rest in peace. Somehow, I don't think he'd do that, in fact, I'd love to hear what he has to say if you decide to contact him, oh to be a fly on the wall that day.

Cred, did you ever think that maybe so many people have a problem with your posts because you are full of hot air? Ah, I think we might have found the problem. :)

Cred, I didn't post the question, Bushg did,
That is correct, I knew that, and stand corrected on that point.
But you did not "just respond". You attacked my criticizing of the question, a question that is basically flawed, and that deserved my criticism to the fullest.

:rolleyes:

If you want to criticize, then go after the right person, that would be the author, not Bushg. The author wrote the book, he wrote that question and the possible answers, it is a direct quote from the book, therefore, the only person that should be criticized is the author. I do find it telling that only you and Choux had a problem with the wording of this question, everyone else seemed to get it.

I attacked? Nope, I defended Bushg's right to quote a book and not be attacked, which is what you did.

If you want to continue this discussion, why not start your own thread, that way, you can ask people what they think of the way this question was written. Who knows, maybe some people will agree with you. That's the way to go, or write the author, hmmm, two choices, which will it be, not hard to choose, unless of course you find that my wording is incorrect? :)

I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
A. people making love to each other
or
B. people killing each other.

Which would you prefer?

Depends who it is I see when I look out on the streets!! :D

You all need a chill pill! I think bushg handled this silliness best.. Anyone notice how??

Depends who it is i see when i look out on the streets!!! :D

You all need a chill pill!! I think bushg handled this silliness best.. Anyone notice how???


I do agree Skell, I shouldn't have let it get to me and kept my promise not to respond. I should have done that long ago, but sadly, I cannot back down when someone is rude and wrong. You don't have to agree with me, and I'm not saying the Cred has to agree with me, just attack the right person already, the author. Jeesh, this has gone too far, and I think it's time for me to bow out, it's like beating a dead horse, and I'm done.

Fine Cred, you win, not because I think you're right, but because I don't want to fight anymore, it's pointless, nothing I say gets through anyway.

Good luck in all you do, take care. Let's enjoy AMHD and all the wonderful people with their many different opinions.

Alty out. :)

I do agree Skell, I shouldn't have let it get to me and kept my promise not to respond. I should have done that long ago, but sadly, I cannot back down when someone is rude and wrong. You don't have to agree with me, and I'm not saying the Cred has to agree with me, just attack the right person already, the author. Jeesh, this has gone too far, and I think it's time for me to bow out, it's like beating a dead horse, and I'm done.

Fine Cred, you win, not because I think youre right, but because I don't want to fight anymore, it's pointless, nothing I say gets through anyway.

Good luck in all you do, take care. Let's enjoy AMHD and all the wonderful people with their many different opinions.

Alty out. :)

I totally agree! Well said, and this needs to stop!

.... A. people making love to each other or B. people killing each other.
Which would you prefer?
Back to the original post again :
Of course - just like every other sane person - I go for answer A.

But I like to note that the question is not a fair and logical one, as the A and B choice are not of equal validity and value. There simply is no other morally correct choice than answer A. Not even for the millions of prudish and triggerhappy guncarrying US citizens... :)

And I don't care if the question in the book was copied properly to here . A wrong question remains a wrong question, copied of non-copied.

And that is the point I have been making since my first reaction to this topic several pages ago.

:D

.... copied of non-copied ....
Of course that should have been "copied or non-copied"

Good to reactivate this, in view of the recent closings of other topics...

:rolleyes:

·

There simply is no other morally correct choice than answer A. Not even for the millions of prudish and triggerhappy guncarrying US citizens



Why must you revisit this topic, to once again state what you have already stated. Everyone knows your point of view, yet you must reiterate just to restate and reafirm your not so humble "OPINION."

Once again you have characterized ALL AMERICANS as "trigger happy", "gun toting", "prudish", "Gringo" US Citizens. You are including half of my family in that ignorant statement of yours, and I am deeply offended by it, although not offended enough to listen to the town crier spew his poisonous, and meaningless words once again. Have you run out of topics? :rolleyes:

Why should we have to choose either one?

You can refrain from choosing, that's your choice too. :)