Is it wrong that I think strippers are disgusting? I think its so degrading. This girl I was seeing knew how I feel about them, and told me she was thinking of doing it. She always told me money meant nothing to her. Then contradicted herself with saying " I can make a grand a night". She asked how I felt about it and I obviously told her how disgusting I think it is and how its selling her body and how degrading it is. We fought about it and now its pretty much over between us . I think of her totally different now because of her even having the idea of stripping. She's a smart girl and hard working, and wants to get in to a pharmaceutical type job. I told her she can do much better and not have to lose the respect of others over it. I know most guys love it, but I think its gross. Anyone else feel the same? I also know some girls HAVE to do it to make it by in life. But for this girl its different.

I'm going to disagree with you here. There are actually some very classy places where stripping takes place. I don't know if you have ever been to a strip club, as you may just have this illusion it's like what you see on TV. I wouldn't see a problem with dating a stripper as long as I know I'm the one she comes home to and also the one who gets to touch(pardon if that statement offends anyone)

The only time I think it's disgusting is when it's one of those, anything goes type clubs. Then the situations and the cleaniness of the girls begins to get questioned. What you displayed to her when you reacted like that was you want to control what she does with her life and her body. So in reality, maybe it's best that it did end.

Ok, I will not address the way you feel, that is the way you feel.

So what you have done is found out about the other person while you were dating, a lot of people do not have the same moral values, and part of dating is finding the person who matches what we are like.

I guess it depends on the type of individual you are..
I love strip clubs, it's good fun.. But I'm quite a jealous person so I couldn't see myself dating a stripper.. I would go insane.

I find stripping as a profession totally degrading against women, disrespectful and disgusting.

Women who strip allow themselves to be viewed as a sex object and nothing else. I know as a women I want to be viewed much higher than that.

I'm sorry but my path of a good life doesn't go any where near exposing my body for the pleasure of men. I would rather impress a guy with my brains and charm.

BUT that is only my opinion.

IneedHelp222, I believe you are right when you say that your stripper friend can do better. It's good to know that she wants to get into a pharmaceutical profession, and I do know for a fact that she can raise money elsewhere for her education.

And no, I don't believe that some women have to strip to get money. That's a poor exuse. Just think of how many jobs there are out there for a woman: waitress, childcare/babysitting, maid, receptionist, librarian, cashier, zoo keeper, construction worker... the list goes on! And most of those jobs that I listed don't even require a college degree. Your friend could use that job as a stepping stone for something even greater, such as college to become a pharmacist.

Yes, the economy might be bad right now and jobs are scarce but anything is possible. She just has to put her mind to it. Yes, stripping might be an easy job to get into but I believe that a woman will go no where in life with that.

Good luck and I know your friend is a smart person, she just needs a little push. Maybe you're the guy to do it!

She has made her choice, and since it's a dealbreaker, you did what you thought was right, and broke up. Move on, a you'll find someone more in line with what you believe.

Good luck and I know your friend is a smart person, she just needs a little push. Maybe you're the guy to do it!

I think its too late now for that lol. But I like the way you think.:)

Oh you're right! He isn't seeing her anymore.

But he can still give her a little push as a friend. If they are even friends now.

:) :)

Yeah there is nothing classey about striping, I really think you can find better stripers only derserve to be with pimps in my mind.lol There is a difference between modeling and striping and I have never ever seen a classey stripper.

2 words... DEMI MOORE? Classy

And what you're telling me is posing nude in a magazine such as Playboy or Penthouse is OK but stripping is not? That's being a little hypocritical in my eyes as they are one in the same.

2 words... DEMI MOORE?? Classy

She's an actress Romey!

And what you're telling me is posing nude in a magazine such as Playboy or Penthouse is ok but stripping is not? That's being a little hypocritical in my eyes as they are one in the same.

No body here said posing nude was all right. Well at least I didn't.

I thought that's what she meant when she said "modeling" because stripping and modeling(as in clothes on) is a completely different game. Ha and beautiful, I was definitely kidding about the Demi Moore comment lol... I had cake today, little hyper ha ha

Lol you're funny Romey!

I don't think she meant nude modeling though she could've and in which case yes, stripping and nude modeling are basically the same thing.

No I was comparing a classy looking model to a bleach blond trailer trash bimbo needing to strip and feed her kids lol. Please no one take offense to this.

Oh OK, then I apologize, I did not know exactly what you meant by your comment. Granted, I would never date a stripper but could understand the circumstances.

Yeah I knew this girl I looked up to she was going to school for her bachalors and then I found out she was a stripper I have not ever thought of her the same and will never look up to her anymore but I guess you got to do what you got to do. But I am the same way heck no I would never date one. I would hate to think that people are putting money down my lovers pants all night long.

Let her do what she wants.

... then either deal with it or don't.

Simple as that.

I find stripping as a profession totally degrading against women, disrespectful and disgusting.

Women who strip allow themselves to be viewed as a sex object and nothing else. I know as a women I want to be viewed much higher than that.

I'm sorry but my path of a good life doesn't go any where near exposing my body for the pleasure of men. I would rather impress a guy with my brains and charm.

And no, I don't believe that some women have to strip to get money. That's a poor exuse. Just think of how many jobs there are out there for a woman: waitress, childcare/babysitting, maid, receptionist, librarian, cashier, zoo keeper, construction worker...the list goes on! And most of those jobs that I listed don't even require a college degree. Your friend could use that job as a stepping stone for something even greater, such as college to become a pharmacist.
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I hope you only wear neck to ankle clothing--no short skirts, no low cut/v-neck tops. No dangly earrings, and that you either keep your hair short or wear it up. You shouldn't wear tight jeans, or tight slacks, and DEFINITELY not heels.

Otherwise you, too, are buying into the sexual image of women.

Admit it--for a night on the town, you WANT to look "sexy" not "modest".

Every one of the jobs you listed makes less in a week than a stripper makes in a NIGHT. If you have kid(s) to support, no education, and are looking to make something better of yourself, stripping is a good way to get that money--you can work 2 nights a week, go to school days, and actually BE there for your kids too!

I can understand your point about feeling that women that strip don't have any self-respect. I do, however, know 4 women who have been strippers. One was desperate for ANY money. One just wanted a job to help pay for school that wasn't going to take away from her time for school and homework, one was a drug addict and used it to pay for her habit, and one just truly enjoyed the power trip it gave her. Two of them stopped stripping as soon as they finished college.

Frankly, it's a personal choice. A woman that chooses to strip for a living should be JUST as supported by her friends/family as a woman that decides to act for a living. I mean, these days, both occupations come with the expectation that you'll be taking your clothes off. Same with modeling too, I guess.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I'm not saying you can't have yours about this. I'm just pointing out that it's hypocritcal of you to EVER want to look sexy, then say that you don't want to be seen as a sex object. (the "you" here is in general, not targeting BB here). I also think it's somewhat silly to point out those jobs as possible "substitutes" for stripping--the pay scale isn't even CLOSE.

I can look sexy and modest at the same time. It's all how you perceive what is modest and what isn't. Who said that long hair and dangly earrings wasn't modest?

I totally respect you opinion Synnen, I really do.

I just choose to do better for myself. I make $500/week doing one of those jobs I mentioned. It might not be the whooping $1000 per night kind of deal at a strip club, but it feeds me, clothes me, bathes me, transports me, entertains me, pays the bills and I earn the respect I need as a woman in today's society. I could have turned to stripping but decided to take a different path. Women have choices.

I believe it is weak to say that long hair, dangly earrings, short skirts etc is fitted into the 'sex object' type. Who's to say what is sexy and what isn't? It's all in a matter of opinion. And partially it has to do with the media. I don't wear short skirts and barely low cut shirts but I do have the long hair and dangly earrings. I want to look nice, as I see it. That doesn't mean I'm trying to fit into that 'sex object' look. I think every woman (if not most) wants to look nice/sexy, does that mean that they are trying to be that sex object? I find that hard to believe.

I have seen the default picture on your myspace Beautiful, and I will say you're attractice but you didn't come off as a sex object. You seemed quite reserved with the clothing you chose. Granted this is loosely based on one picture and I could be off base. I don't see skirts, long hair or dangly ear rings as sex objects but more wanting to give off that impression of a classy female. Now granted the skirts that you know, barely cover your assets, now that is coming off as trashy. A friend and I had this discussion a few weeks ago about what is trashy and what is classy.

Thank you Romey! You're truly a blessing.

But what is trashy and what is modest? I love to wear big hoops. Does that make me not so modest? Often I am told that I was a very classy and modest girl. Even when I wore the 10 inch hoops (joking! Maybe 8 inches!). No I am not the type to wear a 2 inch mini- skirt with my butt showing, tight, low cut shirt and fish net stockings. I am the type to wear jeans, a cute tank top or shirt and high heels (I love my high heels), hair down, and big earrings. I don't consider myself as trashy or a sex object. I like to look good for me. It boosts my confidence by 100.

EXACTLY! See, that I like in girls. Where they know what is good looking as compared to what is trashy. I don't consider any type of ear rings trashy, I mean unless someone has a ear fetish lol. The only thing I see as trashy is what you describe with the skirt and fish net stockings.. I won't even approach girls who dress like that, I'm not the type to want my girlfriend to wear trashy clothing as it gives off a false impression. At the same time, I won't tell her what to wear or what not to wear, but let her know if she dresses that way I would not wish to pursue a relationship with her.

... But then again, I know someone who dresses fairly modestly but is a trashy person (sleeps around, lies, cheats, drugs). So maybe it isn't how we dress all the time but how we act as well.

This is true, it's all in how someone presents themselves. I mean I was out with a friend of mine buying clothes for her daughters, and they are all high skirts and low cut tops and I was like, wow, we are teaching children at a young age that dressing like this is OK?

Well with the media of course it's okay! NOT!

I know it's not the same thing--being sexy, and being a sex object--but really, there's kind of this fine line.

A short skirt with a modest jacket and conservative heels and tights = classy.

Exchange with ONE of the following: low cut shirt, spike heels, fishnets, and you have trashy.

The things you do and wear to attract the opposite sex are generally so that they will see you as SEXY.

I chose differently too, BB--but it was a very close call for me. If I had had a kid to support, I would have been stripping. I couldn't afford rent AND food, so I was counting on my one meal a day working at McDonald's and my friends to keep me from starving.

As far as the long hair and earrings--I was going with Biblical standards of modesty--a modest woman doesn't flash her hair around for any ol' guy to see... it's covered, or put up, or whatever. Either way, men think long hair is sexy. (Most men I've run across, anyway).

What it comes down to is that we could choose ANY job that an uneducated person can get to be degrading to women, really.
A cook--that's all women are good for! Standing in the kitchen feeding the kids!
a waitress--all women should know how to SERVE their man. (actually, this works for any customer service position)
working for a cleaning service - well, it's practice for what she should do at home!
Daycare- well, that's all that women are good for, is taking care of kids!

Isn't it really all in how you look at it?

Yea, celebrities have made such a mess of young people's minds these days. I hate to sound like an adult. But it really is a shame to see everything going down the tubes with the media in the past few years

Wow, this is an interesting issue.

I have to agree with Synnen on this one.

Any job can be demeaning, it all depends on how you look at it. Strippers make allot of money for very little actual work. If you are going to school, supporting yourself, then that money can mean the difference between graduating from college, and having a roof over your head, to dropping out and living with friends. I wouldn't consider Stripping as a "career choice" but stripping to get by while you are working towards a higher goal is okay in my opinion. It's not how others view you that matters, it's how you view yourself.

There are two points to this, one is your own choice and another is the girl's choice.
You both have own way of thinking and dealing with situations and now that you have taken a stand, it is Good For You.
Move on.
But yes, a woman/girl can do much-much better than just showing off and sell her body. Come on lady, show yourself some respect and love and just give up this idea.
Somebody listening... :-)

I know it's not the same thing--being sexy, and being a sex object--but really, there's kind of this fine line.

A short skirt with a modest jacket and conservative heels and tights = classy.

Exchange with ONE of the following: low cut shirt, spike heels, fishnets, and you have trashy.

The things you do and wear to attract the opposite sex are generally so that they will see you as SEXY.

I chose differently too, BB--but it was a very close call for me. If I had had a kid to support, I would have been stripping. I couldn't afford rent AND food, so I was counting on my one meal a day working at McDonald's and my friends to keep me from starving.

As far as the long hair and earrings--I was going with Biblical standards of modesty--a modest woman doesn't flash her hair around for any ol' guy to see...it's covered, or put up, or whatever. Either way, men think long hair is sexy. (Most men I've run across, anyway).

What it comes down to is that we could choose ANY job that an uneducated person can get to be degrading to women, really.
A cook--that's all women are good for! Standing in the kitchen feeding the kids!
a waitress--all women should know how to SERVE their man. (actually, this works for any customer service position)
working for a cleaning service - well, it's practice for what she should do at home!
Daycare- well, that's all that women are good for, is taking care of kids!

Isn't it really all in how you look at it?

Yes, I believe it is how you look at it.

In biblical times women were more modest. Sometimes I wish it were like that today. I choose to have long hair because after having it short for so long I decided that it didn't suite me, so I went to long. I did it for me, not for men. But hey, some men would think that short hair is sexy. It's all how one perceives it.

You forgot one job/duty of a woman: the child brearer... JK JK JK..! If only...