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SkyGem
Apr 20, 2008, 09:28 AM
It's time for Obama to hang it up! This issue alone could destroy the Democrats' chances for victory in November if Obama were the nominee.
ABC News: Obama Could Get 'Swift Boated' (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4688386&page=1)
N0help4u
Apr 20, 2008, 09:38 AM
Yeah I heard about that before. Many of the Democrats are secretly or even openly meeting with the terrorists, PLO, etc... Pelosi met with some, now Carter, and also Tom Lantos, Louise Slaughter and Hobson.
Of course it is in the name of trying to talk civilly to come to peace agreements.
I am still trying to figure out why many fall for ''the swiftboaters lied'' when T. Boone Pickens, offered to give Kerry a million $$$ if he could prove one point they were lying about.
SkyGem
Apr 20, 2008, 05:27 PM
Yeah I heard about that before. Many of the Democrats are secretly or even openly meeting with the the terrorists, PLO, etc..... Pelosi met with some, now Carter, and also Tom Lantos, Louise Slaughter and Hobson.
Of course it is in the name of trying to talk civilly to come to peace agreements.
I am still trying to figure out why many fall for ''the swiftboaters lied'' when T. Boone Pickens, offered to give Kerry a million $$$ if he could prove one point they were lying about.
All afternoon long network radio stations have been talking about Obama and the Weather Underground. It was even brought up this morning on at least a couple of national television networks. Since Obama is now running for high office, people are now seriously questioning this or networks would not be spending as much time as they are on this important matter.
N0help4u
Apr 20, 2008, 06:04 PM
Media almost always covers up the Democrats wrongs because they WANT the left.
George_1950
Apr 20, 2008, 07:37 PM
Oooops... Hillary has joined the vast, right-wing conspiracy.
BABRAM
Apr 20, 2008, 07:44 PM
I'm part of an anti-war group and I'm proud of it. It's called the "informed intelligent people voters," and come November we are going to vote against McCain for wanting to carry on with Bush's disastrous Iraqi war and stinking economic policies.
tomder55
Apr 21, 2008, 04:21 AM
Obama has not been truthful about his relationship with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. It would not be an issue if Ayers had not had an interview with the NY Slimes published on 9-11-01 where he regretted not doing more destruction with bombs while he was in the Weathermen . The fact that he is unrepentant ;and that Obama has a much closer professional relationship with Ayers then he is willing to admit is why the questions persist.
People are trying to find out who the real Obama is . His rhetoric does not match with the people he tends to surround himself with. When they start investigating his relationship with Chi-town ward politics the fur will really fly.
BABRAM
Apr 21, 2008, 05:15 AM
Oh! I see because you state he's lying, that makes it so. And your credibility is strength based on non-bias discussions? By all means join in on the witch hunt. Maybe Obama has a dimple and black cat running around in the back yard. I'm going to work. Wow!
Curlyben
Apr 21, 2008, 05:23 AM
Can I please draw everyone's attention to this announcement: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/announcement-font-color-red-forth-comning-presidential-elections-america-font.html, especially Skygem.
tomder55
Apr 21, 2008, 06:07 AM
Bobby just the facts :
Here is the link to Ayers ' interview that was published on 9-11-01
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen - New York Times (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B 63)
"I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."
I have not mentioned their work together in the Woods Fund or Ayers small donation to the Obama campaign. What has not been widely reported is that Ayers hosted an Obama campaign event in his house when Obama was running for State Senator. This suggests a much closer relationship than the casual one that Obama claims.
If I was as prominent a politician as Obama I would not expose myself to this .I would distance myself from Ayers ;particularily after his 9-11 declaration that he does not regret the bombing murders he was involved in.
This is not mud slinging .But it does question Obama's judgement .To me anyway this is a legitimate line of inquiry . Until he puts issue like this to bed then they will continue to be raised.
speechlesstx
Apr 21, 2008, 01:55 PM
Yeah I heard about that before. Many of the Democrats are secretly or even openly meeting with the the terrorists, PLO, etc..... Pelosi met with some, now Carter, and also Tom Lantos, Louise Slaughter and Hobson.
Of course it is in the name of trying to talk civilly to come to peace agreements.
I am still trying to figure out why many fall for ''the swiftboaters lied'' when T. Boone Pickens, offered to give Kerry a million $$$ if he could prove one point they were lying about.
Sapphire, that was 6 months ago (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/111707dnnatkerrypickens.de9d26.html) Kerry accepted the challenge and I haven't heard anything about it from Kerry since. Have you?
BABRAM
Apr 21, 2008, 03:41 PM
Bobby just the facts :
Here is the link to Ayers ' interview that was published on 9-11-01
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen - New York Times (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B 63)
"I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."
I have not mentioned their work together in the Woods Fund or Ayers small donation to the Obama campaign. What has not been widely reported is that Ayers hosted an Obama campaign event in his house when Obama was running for State Senator. This suggests a much closer relationship than the casual one that Obama claims.
If I was as prominent a politician as Obama I would not expose myself to this .I would distance myself from Ayers ;particularily after his 9-11 declaration that he does not regret the bombing murders he was involved in.
This is not mud slinging .But it does question Obama's judgement .To me anyway this is a legitimate line of inquiry . Until he puts issue like this to bed then they will continue to be raised.
Everybody that is anybody, especially those of higher political ranks, has dealt with big business, large corporations, financial institutions, and legal charitable organizations, has either sat on a board or in some way has had association or knows a person that was indicated for one thing or another. Personally I have had acquaintances that were sent up the river for embezzlement and raqueteering. And all to my surprise when I found out later after their convictions. The facts are that Obama has never been indicted of breaking any laws. He loves America, our country, and he's every bit the patriot as McCain or Clinton. In fact anyone not willing to question the government I think is weak on patriotism. Somewhere along the way the Republican party forgot about "we the people." The Woods Fund never asked Barack Obama who should be seated on the board and he doesn't own the foundation. If the Republicans were the judges of the court opinion, I'd be railroaded on a blood libel charge.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderprofile.asp?fndid=5340&category=79
"The Woods Fund of Chicago is an outgrowth of the Woods Charitable Fund (WCF), which was established in 1941 by Frank Woods and his wife, Nelle Cochrane Woods. Frank Woods was an attorney and a nationally prominent telephone company executive. He and his wife incorporated WCF with their three sons, two of whom remained in Lincoln, and one of whom (Frank Woods, Jr.) worked in Chicago after finishing college and eventually became the head of the Sahara Coal Company.
Frank Woods headed WCF in the 1950s, during which time he gave money to groups advocating equal rights for minorities. He was also instrumental in developing the Council on Foundations. His grandson Thomas C. Woods, Jr. was President of WCF from 1968 until 1990, at which point Lucia Woods Lindley (Frank Woods, Jr.'s daughter) took over that position. In the early 1990s, George Kelm became WCF President and, with the assistance of Staff Director Jean Rudd, moved the Fund politically to the left. Kelm and Rudd then created a separate entity, which they named the Woods Fund of Chicago; Kelm, who was active in the Council on Foundations, became the Woods Fund's first President.
This new Fund focused on welfare reform, affordable housing, the quality of public schools, race and class disparities in the juvenile justice system, and tax policy as a tool in reducing poverty. The Fund supported the concept of an expanding welfare state allocating ever-increasing amounts of money to the public school system, and the redistribution of wealth via taxes.
The Woods Fund of Chicago's current President is Deborah Harrington, who served on former Illinois Governor Jim Edgar's Taskforce on Human Services Reform.
A notable Woods board member is William Ayers, who in the 1960s was a member of the terrorist group Weatherman, and was a wanted fugitive for over a decade as a result of the group's bombing campaign; today Ayers is a Professor of Education at the University of Illinois. In 2002 the Woods Fund made a grant to Northwestern University Law School's Children and Family Justice Center, where Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn, was employed.
A former President of the Woods Fund was Maria G. Valdez, a member of the Regional Council of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the most influential Hispanic advocacy group in the United States. Barack Obama is a former Board member of the Fund.
The Woods Fund's agendas are focused in three program areas:
1) The Community Organizing program finances the formation of grassroots organizations, staffed mostly by volunteers, that attempt to shape public policy through activism.
2) The Arts and Culture program supports those who combine artistic pursuits with leftwing activism in the form of community organizing.
3) The Public Policy program supports "policy and constituency-building work that helps low-income individuals and families to attain higher standards of living," and aims to address "issues of poverty among low-wage workers as well as unskilled potential workers."
Woods Fund philanthropy is founded on the axiom that there are "structural barriers to job opportunities, job retention and job advancement" that harm the "working poor." The Fund also condemns what it considers discrimination directed against those "having prison records or felony convictions that make it difficult for them to enter the workforce."
The Woods Fund has given sizable grants to the Midwest Academy; the Tides Foundation; the Tides Center; the Nature Conservancy; AGAPE Youth Development; the Arab American Action Network; the Center for Community Change; the Chicago Interfaith Committee on Worker Issues; the Community Justice Initiative; the Center for Law and Human Services; the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability; Grassroots Collaborative (for American Friends Service Committee); Latin United Community Housing Association; the Center for Economic Progress; the Chicago Coalition for the Homeless; the Chicago Rehabilitation Network; the Heartland Alliance for Human Needs and Human Rights; the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights; the Juvenile Justice Initiative of Illinois; Latinos United; the Lawyers Committee for Better Housing; the National Center on Poverty, Inc.; Protestants for the Common Good; the Public Action Foundation; the Community Justice for Youth Initiative; the Safer Foundation; the Woodstock Institute; Work, Welfare and Families; the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN); the About Face Theater Collective; Day Laborer Collaboration; Business and Professional People for the Public Interest; the Coalition of African Service Providers; the Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law; the Funders' Network for Smart Growth and Livable Communities; Urban Outreach; and the Proteus Fund."
tomder55
Apr 22, 2008, 02:22 AM
As I said ;I was not questioning his sitting on the board of the Woods Fund. Had Obama addressed the question as you just did then perhaps it would continue to be an issue. Instead he made an insulting comparison of this terrorist bomber he befriended to his friendship with Sen.Tom Coburn ;who in his spare time goes back to Oklahoma to deliver babies.