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confused123
Jan 26, 2006, 02:28 PM
Hi, I'm 17 years old and I'm having a problem with my boyfriend wanting to go to a strip club. I'm glad to say that he's not 18 yet, but I feel once he is he's going to want to go to one. Ive heard him say that he wants to go just once to see what its like, and that still really bothers me just to know he wants to. It makes me feel that I must not be good enough for him if he feels a need to want to go.

My feelings towards everything is if he truly loves me and is happy with me then he woudnt have a need to want to go. Am I just over reacting over this? I know it's a phase some guys go through but is it normal for a guy to want to go when he tells you that he's only in love with u?

To me I see going to a strip club as cheating. So I'm really unsure right now. He's always telling me he loves me and that he sees a future with us together, but I question that now because if he wants to be with me then he should be happy with just seeing me and not other girls naked. I guess I'm just wondering if I should be as worried and upset over this as I am or if this is a normal phase he'll get over so I should just relax and let this happen. Id really appreciate any advise. Thanks

CaptainForest
Jan 26, 2006, 02:36 PM
Who says you have to be 18 to go to a strip club? There are pleanty of ways for under age kids to get in.


to me i see going to a strip club as cheating.

That's the problem. He doesn't see it as cheating. You need to talk with him about your feelings but in the end, if he really wants to go and honestlly doesn't view it as cheating, he will go. And if he is then forced to hide it from you, that would be a bad thing.

blueiman
Jan 26, 2006, 02:41 PM
I can understand how you feel. It's normal to feel, am I good enough for him. You are good enough for him I'm sure. Men like to look at other women. I'm sure it's just a fantasy. If he wants to go let him. Its his decision. But, I would let him know its OK with you if he really wants to go but make sure you also tell him you will not like it. So, don't make a big deal about it and just tell him how you feel. Maybe after he goes and spends all that money he will realize he should be spending it on you.;)

phillysteakandcheese
Jan 26, 2006, 03:17 PM
I don’t understand why you would consider going a strip club as cheating.
If you flip through the TV channels and see a boob on TLC, is it accidental cheating? :)

I think every young man wants to go to a strip club at least once – just to see what is going on. It has nothing to do with your being inadequate or not enough – it’s just something that every guy wants to experience at least once.

My buddies in college didn’t have to ask me twice to go on my 19th birthday! Now - If I’m lucky, I get to go to a strip club once or twice a year with a bunch of guys I work with.

It is a problem if going to a strip club on a regular basis is a replacement for something else. Spending hours and hours or dropping your entire paycheck at a strip club is also problem.

Going once – is just boys being boys.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 26, 2006, 05:10 PM
Going to strip clubs will lower his value on women and give his a unrealistic idea of women and sexual activities. It is a place to go and lust after various naked women. ( plus ever wonder why the lights are low at these places, if the lights were bright at many it would scare the men away)

Not all of course.

Now will he sneak out one night after he is 18 ( and honestly the lower class ones will pass you at 18 for a few bucks at the door) and go once, I guess it is a stupid things kids ( young people) do once. Some never go, others never go back but have the one time story to lie about the rest of their life.
Guys are stupid in that way.

But it is cheating in many ways, the same as in web porn or regular porn is cheating, it is taking away the emotional being of the person you care for.

It is not the one time but the aditction of going I would worry about.
And honestly at least he is being honest about it, most guys would not be close enough to their girlfiend to tell them they were planning on going but just sneak out and never tell anyone.

My opinion, no reason to go esp if you have someone speical saying not to.

bizygurl
Jan 26, 2006, 05:35 PM
It some way I feel its cheating. Its kind of messed up to say that the only way he gets away at looking at these woman naked is that they are "strippers" but you know god forbid if he was watching another girl strip for him in the privacy of his own home, that would be cheating, What is the difference where it is watched?

To me if your going to watch another woman or another guy(for the woman) strip for you and looking at them with lust, because that's what it is. It would be classified as cheating, but at least highly disrespectful if your with someone you love and care about, especially if that person has strong feelings about it. If you just have to and its such a guy thing than do it when your single and get it out of your system before you get into a relationship. Confused123, you should ask him how hw would feel if you went to an All Male review with a bunch of your girls, see how he feels about that.
TO be honest he's kind of the stupid one if he does, I just can't understand blowing my money to see another member of the opposite sex get naked and then you can't touch them. I don't get the point. I guess it's a guy thing, apparently.

confused123
Jan 26, 2006, 06:01 PM
Thanks for your comments. It deffinitely sounds like a guy thing that us girls will never understand. I'm trying not to look at it as some huge terrible thing that could end our relationship but I still can't see myself ever being OK with it. I have to say your right bizygurl if a guy feels the need to go he should do it when he's not in a relationship. So I'm hoping he'll care more about my feelings then going to a strip club. I'll just have to talk with him and explain how much this is bothering me. Thanks once again!

DrJ
Jan 26, 2006, 06:11 PM
Don't let it bother you... he's turning 18! Its like a "right of passage!" Just like buing a lotto ticket, a pack of smokes, or buying beer and going to a bar once you turn 21 (in California, at least). Its just something to do because you can.

The difference between going to see a stripper at a strip club and having a girl strip for you in your own home is that you CANNOT touch a stripper, odds are you will never have a chance to, and you will likely never be able to bring one home... as long as he is going to a classy joint. Big difference.

Besides, in a classy joint, the men are not sitting around with hard-ons, playing with themselves under the table. And if he is, he has bigger problems than you think.

Don't let it get to you. You should not feel threatened.

You should allow him to go at least once. Then, when YOU turn 18, go with him! It can be a lot of fun! If you're not into girls, that's fine... if you don't mind them, you will get more action than he will!

lilfyre
Jan 26, 2006, 06:33 PM
Hey, I have been married for 17 years and my hubby goes, it is no big deal, he is not going to pick one up because they do not want him they just want his dollar, that's all, you making a big fuss over it will just cause him to do it behind your back. If you trust him let him go, it is really no biggy. Just an opinion happily married for 17 year and still going happily for the rest of our lives I hope

blustar8i8
Jan 26, 2006, 07:50 PM
At least he told you that he wanted to do it. He's being honest about it. Its just a thing guys do. Its not that they don't want you or think that, that girl is better looking then you.my boyfriend doesn't go to strip clubs but has his porn to look at! It used to bother me but I don't care anymore id rather him watch TV and keep it to himself then to go pokin another girl. I know he would never cheat on me.and if your guy was to cheat on you just to have sex with another girl then he was never worth your love in the first place. Let the curiosity kill the cat. I'm sure that it wouldn't be a every night thing. Just something that guys feel they have to do when they turn 18. Like buying cigs or buying a lottery ticket. I know when I was 18 I went to an adult store!
:/

giggles
Jan 26, 2006, 10:18 PM
hey, I have to disagree! I think it comes down to a difference in values. Confused123, it sounds like you have a moral issue with your boyfriend going to these places, and he doesn't. I see this as a conflict involving your ideals. And fair enough if you don't agree with it: I can't tell you - "hey don't worry about it, all guys go to strip clubs, get over it!"
It's about how YOU feel about it him visiting strip clubs, not whether it is right or wrong morally to do so. A lot of the posts above (sorry guys it came across this way to me) were implying "hey don't worry about it, it's no big deal if he goes to a strip club." But I think this is about more than that.Don't compromise your beliefs just to keep the peace - this is how we deny ourselves fulfillment. It can go either way: you can tell yourself - "ok he goes there, i don't agree but he can do what he likes, he's a free person." OR you can tell yourself - "you know what, I don't agree with this for myself, so I don't want to be with someone who is into this either!" The choice is yours. If you can't set either a common bond of values, or accept each others' differences and "live and let live", you might have to walk away.
Im not sure I'm articulating this very well - I'm just trying to say it's up to you whether you accept he might want to do something you don't approve of. If you choose not to accept his choices, you might have to leave the relationship behind you.

bizygurl
Jan 27, 2006, 04:38 AM
Dont let it bother you... hes turning 18! Its like a "right of passage!" Just like buing a lotto ticket, a pack of smokes, or buying beer and going to a bar once you turn 21 (in california, at least). Its just something to do because you can.

The difference between going to see a stripper at a strip club and having a girl strip for you in yoru own home is that you CANNOT touch a stripper, odds are you will never have a chance to, and you will likely never be able to bring one home... as long as he is going to a classy joint. Big difference.

Besides, in a classy joint, the men are not sitting around with hard-ons, playing with themselves under the table. And if he is, he has bigger problems than you think.

Dont let it get to you. You should not feel threatened.

You should allow him to go at least once. Then, when YOU turn 18, go with him!! It can be a lot of fun! If youre not into girls, thats fine... if you dont mind them, you will get more action than he will!
Would you feel threatened if your girlfriend/wife went to a chipndales or male review? Think about it. Male strip places or reviews may not take everything off, but they do put on a show. Put it this way they will pull a woman onstage and dance and grind on her. Would you enjoy that if it was your girl? All Im saying is that it goes both ways. Guys need to think that if its okay to go to strip club with female strippers than you better not object when your girl wants to go to an all Male review. And I've seen that scenario all too many times. Im in my late tewnties, and I don't let this bother me anymore since I know that if my guy does go (which is hardley ever now) I know who he's coming home too. We've been together for a long time now and its different. I wouldn't get upset about it as much as I did when I was younger. But that doesn't mean that I think its okay for soomeone to do it when the other has strong feelings againts it. The way my guy and I handled it was, we compromized, I said well if your going to do it regardless, then Im going to go to my own male reviews. He was pissed about it but what could he say? Eventually he stopped going because he felt it was a waste of money and he wasn't as into it as he use tobe when he was 21. I stopped going cause it was boring to me after awhile.


You may not be able to touch a stripper as apposed to a girl stripping for you privately that may be a difference, but your still looking at someone naked with lust that IS NOT your girlfriend or wife. Maybe to say its cheating is a bit of a stretch, but is it disrespectful if your with someone (when THEY have a problem with it) I mean come on your not going to die if you don't go to a strip club. If you had a problem with your gal going to a male strip club would you expect the same thing? You have to put yourself in the others shoes. But it all comes down to how each individual views this I guess. And as always this is just my opinion.

blueiman
Jan 27, 2006, 06:21 AM
[QUOTE=giggles]If you can't set either a common bond of values, or accept each others' differences and "live and let live", you might have to walk away.QUOTE]

people that are in relatinships need to let there partner do what they want to. Of course as long as what they are doing is not detrimental to the relationship. I mean like my ex-girlfriend did what she wanted to. If something bothered me I would let her know. And that's it. I would not make a big deal about it. Just tell your partner how you feel. It's up to your partner to decide what they want. They will do it with or without your consent. If you tell your partner you don't like it. And you partner continues. Can you handle it? If yes, fine go to the club with him. If no, then you have to bring it to the table again and explain how you feel. Then make you decision if you want to cont with the relationship or not. Don't do anything until you both agree with the issue you have. Communicate my friend. You have to live with it.

nymphetamine
Jan 27, 2006, 07:30 AM
I think it bothers some women because of the fact that they don't just have table dances but some of them want to pull you back into dark little secluded rooms and I know they aren't all innocent. My exhusband took a few back there and they didn't dance either if you catch my meaning.

blueiman
Jan 27, 2006, 09:38 AM
I think it bothers some women because of the fact that they dont just have table dances but some of them want to pull you back into dark little secluded rooms and I know they arent all innocent. My exhusband took a few back there and they didnt dance either if you catch my meaning.
Auh man. Sorry to hear that. Guys are so stupid with the sh%t they do. I mean what the. When you have a beautiful women give her everything. I would never go to a club and have some trashy dancer touch my sh&t. if I need loving I would make a date with my girl. And make her fell good. You must have been crush when you found out. Or, maybe you got even?

nymphetamine
Jan 27, 2006, 10:07 AM
Get even? No, Im better than he is. There are times when I wish I had though just because I wanted to see him hurt like me. But like I said, Im better than him.

phillysteakandcheese
Jan 27, 2006, 10:17 AM
Is my perception of the strip club different?

Every dancer I've ever seen does a show that's about 10-15 minutes. In the first song, she mostly just dances around in her costume and I spend those minutes wondering who this girl is and what she does the other hours of the day when she's not on stage. In the second song, where she starts giving peeks at herself and starts peeling out of her costume, it's exciting to watch and I'm mostly thinking about her look and how she presents herself. During the last song, when she is mostly naked, I just have a big smile on my face. It's the same kind of happy smile I have when I see a celebrity I like. Repeat this three or four times, and then I am on my way.

I don't think I have "lust" in my heart when I see a girl dancing, and I certainly don't have any kind of torrid sexual illusion about how I'm her boyfriend for a night. I also most certainly don't equate a stripper with a hooker.

My handful of experiences have all been fun - the guys are good to hang out with, the music is good, the waitresses are friendly, and the dancers are professional (for lack of a better word).

And based on my own experiences, I have absolutely no problem with my wife going to an all male review - Even if they get to be a little more "touchy" with the entertainment.

bizygurl
Jan 27, 2006, 10:38 AM
Is my perception of the strip club different?

Every dancer I've ever seen does a show that's about 10-15 minutes. In the first song, she mostly just dances around in her costume and I spend those minutes wondering who this girl is and what she does the other hours of the day when she's not on stage. In the second song, where she starts giving peeks at herself and starts peeling out of her costume, it's exciting to watch and I'm mostly thinking about her look and how she presents herself. During the last song, when she is mostly naked, I just have a big smile on my face. It's the same kind of happy smile I have when I see a celebrity I like. Repeat this three or four times, and then I am on my way.

I don't think I have "lust" in my heart when I see a girl dancing, and I certainly don't have any kind of torrid sexual illusion about how I'm her boyfriend for a night. I also most certainly don't equate a stripper with a hooker.

My handful of experiences have all been fun - the guys are good to hang out with, the music is good, the waitresses are friendly, and the dancers are professional (for lack of a better word).

And based on my own experiences, I have absolutely no problem with my wife going to an all male review - Even if they get to be a little more "touchy" with the entertainment.
Well that's great that you and your wife have a compromise, the same kind that my husband and I did back in the day. That does work. The only reason I brought up that particular point because I have had a few friends who's husbands/bf were frequent strip club goers but when my friends wanted to go to ChipNDales it was like there men completely freaked out and had a fit. And the biggest thing was "Its different for men" When that is complete BS. No basically that's saying Im going to go look at naked woman stripping but you can't look at men because its different for men.

Im not saying the men here feel that way. I was just making a point that if one person feels that its important to them that they HAVE to go to a strip joint then it works both ways. That goes for woman too.
I don't think anyone here said that a stripper is equal to a hooker, although I can see why some would have that opinion.

DrJ
Jan 27, 2006, 11:21 AM
Okay, first with the whole "moral" issue... this is not an issue of morals, this is an issue of self-confidence. See here:


it makes me feel that i must not be good enough for him if he feels a need to want to go.

She also says that she sees it as cheating but only because she feels that because "if he wants to be with me then he should be happy with just seeing me and not other girls naked." The "moral" argument here is bogus. She's 17 and having sex but she has a moral issue against her boyfriend seeing another woman naked?

Often times, women get this idea that just because a man gets with her, that suddenly EVERY OTHER woman in the world suddenly become unattractive. It is in a mans nature to be "attractED," as it is in a woman's nature to be "attractIVE." That's just the way it is... you can't go against that. Woman are attractive and men are attracted to them... that's an instict to promote procreation that goes deeper than (almost) anything else.

And Bizygrl, don't take this personally but you are acting as if you had a moral issue with your boyfriend going and the only way to make it right was for you to go see a male stripper... that's just ridiculous. I have a little moral issue with murder but if my girlfriend gets to do it, Im not going to go kill someone and call it even!?

And for the record, no, I wouldn't have a problem with my girlfriend going to see a male stripper... in fact, she will be going to a bachelorette party in a month or so to do exactly that. And you are right, bizygrl... it is hypocritical of someone to assume its okay for them but not for their partner. "putting yourself in thier shoes" as you put it is the key to my relationship. There is not a thing that I do in my life that I don't first ask myself "how would I feel if she was doing this same thing." As I said before, as long as its not out of control and she's not doing this to substitute for anything else, I see no problem with it. Its just a fun night out with the girls. I am confident enough in myself and our relationship to be okay with that. That is what this all comes down to.

Confused123 is worried about this because she feels that she may not be good enough for her boyfriend and that may be the reason he wants to go. "MAYBE" it is... but most likely, he is a young man turning 18 and that's just one of the things you do when you turn 18.

And as Phily and I both put it, men are not at these places groping themselves under the table have strange perversions over these girls. It is professional and if you're a true Mac Daddy you keep it that way. If her man IS one of these sick perverts (that usually get bounced out at first sight) then she has OTHER problems.

Chery
Jan 27, 2006, 11:42 AM
hi, i'm 17 years old and im having a problem with my boyfriend wanting to go to a strip club. im glad to say that hes not 18 yet, but i feel once he is hes going to want to go to one. Ive heard him say that he wants to go just once to see what its like, and that still really bothers me just to know he wants to. it makes me feel that i must not be good enough for him if he feels a need to want to go.

my feelings towards everything is if he truely loves me and is happy with me then he woudnt have a need to want to go. am i just over reacting over this? i know its a phase some guys go through but is it normal for a guy to want to go when he tells u that hes only in love with u?

to me i see going to a strip club as cheating. so im really unsure right now. hes always telling me he loves me and that he sees a future with us together, but i question that now because if he wants to be with me then he should be happy with just seeing me and not other girls naked. i guess im just wondering if i should be as worried and upset over this as i am or if this is a normal phase he'll get over so i should just relax and let this happen. id really appreciate any advise. Thanks

Dear, your username certainly fits you. You seem to be confused about almost everything, and at your age, you should be learning, experiencing, and enjoying new things in life.
You don't own this young man, and he does not own you. And your thought about the 'cheating' part is not logical. There are many men and women who go to these types of clubs and enjoy the entertainment and then go home and that's that.
We are not in the dark ages, and he at least communicates with you and tells you what he'd like to do at least once - let him, and when old enough, check out a club with a few girlfriends too. Then, both of you will have had the 'experience' and be able to say 'been there, done that', and go on with your lives and not think you missed out on something. The thought of missing out on things is what usually ruins a relationship, and if 'forbidden' it will be even more enticing - so let this issue go, and start living and enjoying your young life and stop acting like a middle-aged prude.
Times have changed, and you need to stay informed of what's out there. Back in the 'old day' fathers would take their sons to houses of 'ill-repute' at the age of 18 - and that was considered normal.
So get out there, and stop living a 'sheltered' life and don't worry that he'll turn out to be a pervert - that's paranoid.

Relax a bit and take each day as it comes while growing up.
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Chery
Jan 27, 2006, 11:59 AM
Im not saying the men here feel that way. I was just making a point that if one person feels that its important to them that they HAVE to go to a strip joint then it works both ways. That goes for woman too.
I don't think anyone here said that a stripper is equal to a hooker, although I can see why some would have that opinion.

I like the ChipNDales too, and when I get home, my man is happy that night. Both men and women have a right to "look at the menu, and eat at home" and it does not mean they are perverted. It's sometimes better than having the feeling of having missed something in life.

Also, young people that openly admit that they'd like to try out a strip joint are just curious and it does not mean they will be 'regular' visitors from then on.


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bizygurl
Jan 27, 2006, 12:14 PM
Okay, first with the whole "moral" issue... this is not an issue of morals, this is an issue of self-confidence. See here:



She also says that she sees it as cheating but only because she feels that becuase "if he wants to be with me then he should be happy with just seeing me and not other girls naked." The "moral" arguement here is bogus. Shes 17 and having sex but she has a moral issue against her boyfriend seeing another woman naked??

Often times, women get this idea that just because a man gets with her, that suddenly EVERY OTHER woman in the world suddenly become unattractive. It is in a mans nature to be "attractED," as it is in a womans nature to be "attractIVE." Thats just the way it is... you can't go against that. Woman are attractive and men are attracted to them... thats an instict to promote procreation that goes deeper than (almost) anything else.

And Bizygrl, dont take this personally but you are acting as if you had a moral issue with your bf going and the only way to make it right was for you to go see a male stripper.... thats just ridiculous. I have a little moral issue with murder but if my gf gets to do it, Im not going to go kill someone and call it even!?!

And for the record, no, I wouldnt have a problem with my gf going to see a male stripper.... in fact, she will be going to a bachelorette party in a month or so to do exactly that. And you are right, bizygrl... it is hypocritical of someone to assume its okay for them but not for their partner. "putting yourself in thier shoes" as you put it is the key to my relationship. There is not a thing that I do in my life that I dont first ask myself "how would I feel if she was doing this same thing." As I said before, as long as its not out of control and shes not doing this to substitute for anything else, I see no problem with it. Its just a fun night out with the girls. I am confident enough in myself and our relationship to be okay with that. That is what this all comes down to.

Confused123 is worried about this because she feels that she may not be good enough for her bf and that may be the reason he wants to go. "MAYBE" it is... but most likely, he is a young man turning 18 and thats just one of the things you do when you turn 18.

And as Phily and I both put it, men are not at these places groping themselves under the table have strange perversions over these girls. It is professional and if your a true Mac Daddy you keep it that way. If her man IS one of these sick perverts (that usually get bounced out at first sight) then she has OTHER problems.
Umm. Not quite, DR.Jizzle, My boyfriend (now my husband) at the time told me that if ounce in a while he went to strip club, that he wouldn't have a problem with me going to an all male review. At the time I didn't really care, but ounce I turned twentyone a friend and I went a few times. I only went a few times but it just wasn't something I really got into. Then he only went to an actul strip club ounce for a friends birthday and then a bacholor party since we were together, that's it.
The only reason I brought up a morality issue was that someone posted that it may come down to morals, and what confused123 felt about. I was only elaborating on that idea. And that it was a good point to bring up. Its defenitly a different way of looking at it. And whatever I said to that was only my opinion,I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with me.
Im not saying that confused123 should get back at her boyfriend by going to a strip club herself, but instead to ask him how he felt if she were to go to a strip club with friends. I now most guys don't have a problem with it, but some do, read my last post. But I was merely suggesting to have him put himself in her shoes. If he was fine with it great, if not then it would only be fair for her if she WANTED to go, not that she should go.
I didn't take what you said personally I mean we all have our opinions. And you obviously interperated it that way. I just wanted to make it clear that I didn't "try to get back" at my boyfriend for going to a strip club, please I had better things to do!

DrJ
Jan 27, 2006, 12:32 PM
Well my morality spew was more toward giggles who first brought up the idea. I was just pointing out that this is obviously NOT a morality issue.

But when you say "I didn't "try" to get back at my bf for going to a strip club, please I have better things to do!" But you comment
bizygurl agrees: good for you, your a better woman than me, if my man were going to strip clubs Id go to a few of my own

You can see where I got that from. Go if you want to go... don't go because he is.

However, I agree... if HE is not okay with HER going, then he cannot assume that SHE should be okay with HIM going...

bizygurl
Jan 27, 2006, 12:45 PM
I hadn't meant that to be in a get even way. It was meant to be as "Hey if your going to go, then I don't want to hear anything if I decided to go". I guess I didn't word it the right way, sorry if that didn't make sense.considering the post it was on. At first in the begiining yes I was pissed that my boyfriend wanted to go. But we discussed this and we came to a compromise, that I already explained. So that when I did eventually end up going I wasn't doing out of spite. I actually had a good time. But it wasn't really me. No big deal.
I guess this is a topic that a lot of people have different views on.

DrJ
Jan 27, 2006, 01:23 PM
That's true... we all have our views... all of them right, none of them wrong.

And actually, I don't think that either of us are really disagreeing on anyone thing lol

bizygurl
Jan 27, 2006, 01:27 PM
No not really, you defenitly brought up some good points. And I completely respect your opinion.:D

talaniman
Jan 27, 2006, 05:23 PM
It is perfectly natural for a young man,or woman to want to spread their wings and try everything that life has to offer,as they cross over to adulthood.There are very few guys that can't wait to see what a strip club is about.You have to apreciate the honesty of a man who tells his g/f that he wants to check it out but trust me your approval is not necessary and he'll just go and not tell you.As a matter of fact anything he wants to do and you don't like it he'll just do it behind your back,can you blame him after all your not his mother nor his boss so ladies ease up a little and have a bit of faith in his judgement and let him play and blow off a lot of steam that's what younger guys do,good grief he's coming home to you isn't he?I've been married more than 30 years and I don't tell my wife what to do or who to party with,as long as its her g/f's and she doesn't tell me and the boys what to do.This is not a moral issue but one of trust,either you do or you don't! Your problem,not mine.:cool:

friendlyfiona
Jan 28, 2006, 04:03 AM
Totally agree - but at the same time I can understand how it can make a girl feel a bit insecure about her body because I have 2 admit, my boyfriend looks at pics of practically naked women and even THAT gets me annoyed and makes me think I'm not good enuf he's got to go elsewhere to admire the scenery... but then I'm reminded that guys are weird like that and if he's totally into you, there's nothing to worry about because he mite be going to a strip club but coming home to you at the end of night so mayb take that opportunity to remind him of what he's got at home... or better yet - for every time he goes to a strip club, go to a male strip club with some of your girls - see how he likes dem apples? Lol

Chery
Jan 28, 2006, 06:22 AM
It is perfectly natural for a young man,or woman to want to spread their wings and try everything that life has to offer,as they cross over to adulthood.

After all your not his mother nor his boss so ladies ease up a little and have a bit of faith in his judgement and let him play and blow off a lot of steam that's what younger guys do,good grief he's coming home to you isn't he?

Exactly my point. You need to learn to trust each other, that's what makes a relationship strong and gives you more confidence too.

Women will always be a little bothered about their men looking at other women, but don't we look too, when there is a cute guy walking by at the mall? It does not mean we are cheating - it's just a natural thing that's mostly done subconsciously. Like I said before, look at the menu - eat at home. I also had mixed emotions when other women looked at my men, but then I was also proud since it was evident that they thought I had great taste in men - and then I thought "eat your hearts out" and kept on walking...

Women are not the only ones needing compliments now and then. A man appreciates a pat on the bum in the kitchen too.

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_6_206.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZN)Here is where 'show and tell' is more important than it was in 1st and 2d grade at school.

SnaveLeber
May 8, 2007, 10:31 AM
Any guy who would do this knowing that it would hurt you, obviously doesn't care about your emotions. That's not love. He should have "Spread his wings" Before the relationship.

SnaveLeber
May 8, 2007, 10:34 AM
It is cheating. Tell him if he wants to go, then you'll be with him. No if ands or buts. If he goes... tell him maybe he can go out with one of those strippers, and say bye bye to
Mr. Idontrespectmygirlfriend

FLTraumaRN911
May 10, 2007, 12:34 AM
Then what is the difference with women going to Male reviews and having the men their just because they are dressed in male thongs can rub on the women and put their privates in the girls faces. Is that cheat of course not if you ask women they think it is entertaining. HMMMMM go figure!

SnaveLeber
May 10, 2007, 08:36 AM
Actually, no. I think that's discusting. And yes, it is cheating.

stuntedspider
Oct 11, 2007, 05:28 PM
Right I wouldn't like it either its highly sexual seedy and very expensive
The thought of my boyfriend going to see stripper and enjoying a real naked women being close to him dancing and being naked and him seeing her bits makes me feel ill. Ask your boyfriend this would he mind if you were a stripper? If you got naked in front of a man complete stranger. The fact he is with you and really wants to go is pretty sad. I believe your morales to but morales a side I wouldn't want to upset my boyfriend or hurt him or make him insecure in any way, so it's the fact he's doing this to you over another women is pretty crappy to , he needs to sort out what's more important. Strip for him yourself. Tell him how you feel. Truly feel. And unless it's a stag do, which I also don't get then walk away.

stephdwars
Apr 2, 2010, 09:45 PM
My boyfriend is on his way to the strip club right now for the first time. He's going with a bunch of his friends for one of their birthdays. I feel like crap and that I'm not good enough for him but I know he truly loves me. Just believe what your boyfriend is telling you, and if he is lying then he's not worth your time! While he's at the club go out with your girls and have fun and just forget about it!