View Full Version : Hillary Rodham Clinton
Allheart
Feb 23, 2008, 06:51 AM
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This thread is hereby established as a place to post POSITIVE attributes that apply to this canadate.
Things that you find about this canadate that are positive.
Due to all the negative press and mudslinging, having a place to come to post and read positive issues that apply to the canadates, perhaps can better help us with our upcoming descions.
Each canadate shall have their own thread.
(***This outstanding idea of sharing positive issues relating to a particular candidate was shared by NeedKarma. Thank you NK - I am truly so excited and I think it will be very beneifical.**_
xphelper
Feb 23, 2008, 07:13 AM
She has the most D.C. experience and Bill in her corner.
talaniman
Feb 23, 2008, 07:20 AM
I think she is a very strong female, that handle adversity well. Smart and knowledgeable, and would be an excellent president. Not that she has my vote at this time, but she is a refreshing change from the stiff white guys in the suits, that have been screwing the middle class. That in no way means John McCain isn't a good candidate as he commands his own respect in my eyes. Honestly, this is the first time in my life I like ALL the candidates, as Obama is one impressive dude in his own right.
Fr_Chuck
Feb 23, 2008, 07:22 AM
She has never been arrested for any of her business deals
Allheart
Feb 23, 2008, 07:24 AM
She has never been arrested for any of her business deals
LOL all over the place. Naughty Naughty Fr. Chuck, you snuck one in.. I can't stop laughing.
Behave yourself :)
Allheart
Feb 23, 2008, 07:29 AM
I'm with Tal. On all 3 candadates.
My girl Hillary. I just love strong women. I am more then impressed with how she has handled difficult situations. ( A certain someone would have been on the white house steps in his Pj's, pillow and blankee (just kidd).
But she is massively impressive to me.
Bright as all get out, outstanding on her feet, and will be a force to reckon with in DC and the world.
I'm proud of her and I thank her for appreciating Government workers and recognize that they give a great deal of effort, because they do, they truly do.
shygrneyzs
Feb 23, 2008, 07:59 AM
She is not afraid to get as dirty as the boys when she "plays." Which can be a positive thing.
Fr_Chuck
Feb 23, 2008, 08:25 AM
Sorry but that was about the best thing I could think about her, but then it is better than I think of most of the others
, I just don't like any of our choices.
I just don't see a real good choice that is right for America ( well my opinion of what America should be.
Allheart
Feb 23, 2008, 08:30 AM
sorry but that was about the best thing I could think about her, but then it is better than I think of most of the others
, I just don't like any of our choices.
I just don't see a real good choice that is right for America ( well my opinion of what America should be.
That's quite all right. You did very well :) Truly you did. It still makes me chuckle.
But Chin up Fr. don't ask me why, but I have a really good feeling about whoever wins.
I think there will be some positive changes... a movement to improvement shall we say.
It's not a knock to anything going on currently... but sometimes, just change in and of itself brings an air of good and newness.
Fingers crossed.
N0help4u
Feb 23, 2008, 09:51 PM
She is great at hiding her true self --except to her secret service and her staff.
magprob
Feb 23, 2008, 11:08 PM
He... uhm... uhm... it... ugh... let's see... he uhm, uhm... ugh... it... well, he, hm... ugh... Sorry, can't.
FeelSoNumbZombie
Feb 23, 2008, 11:29 PM
I believe Hillary has a warm, forgiving and loving heart. She is brilliant and has first-hand experience with what it takes to be our President. Even though she never responded to any of my emails, as her husband had in the past. Which sort of erks me to this day. On the other hand, I still believe that Obama will win due to history repeating itself. After all, black men were given the right to vote before women- (theory of mine). Obama does show remarkable promise. Yet, I am not convinced he has enough experience for such an endeavor. He does possess charisma and reminds me of Martin Luther King in natural talent and intelligence. Even if we unfortunately lose Bill in the process. I will always like Bill! Because he showed me he cared enough to respond to my concerns in the past. John McCain has my respect and admiration for his lifelong contribution to our country. That is how I personally sum up all of the possibilities for the Presidency. Leaving out all of the numerous political aspects and issues at hand. I admit, I am on the fence. Just wish we had another Aaron Russo available to us. But alas, we have what we have. And must make a choice within the triangle once again.
tomder55
Feb 24, 2008, 03:04 AM
She has for whatever reason she has stuck by her man and her marriage despite all the numerous reasons her philandering husband has given her to leave.
She was able to keep the Fed.gvt. Focused on sending money to NY after 9-11 so I can say that in that small way she has been fairly effective in delivering the pork to New York ('She delivered the Pork to New York' should be her campaign slogan).
magprob
Feb 24, 2008, 10:04 AM
She has for whatever reason she has stuck by her man and her marriage despite all the numerous reasons her philandering husband has given her to leave.
She was able to keep the Fed.gvt. focused on sending money to NY after 9-11 so I can say that in that small way she has been fairly effective in delivering the pork to New York ('She delivered the Pork to New York' should be her campaign slogan).
LOL! And they should start the nasty rumor that Obama won't do pork.
Allheart
Feb 24, 2008, 02:13 PM
She was able to keep the Fed.gvt. focused on sending money to NY after 9-11 so I can say that in that small way she has been fairly effective in delivering the pork to New York ('She delivered the Pork to New York' should be her campaign slogan).
I didn't know that she remained highly charged in seeing that appropriate funding get allocated to NY post 9-11. Good for her.
Thanks for shaing Tom :). (very fair of you)
Wondergirl
Feb 24, 2008, 02:35 PM
According to David Keirsey (Please Understand Me II), Hillary is a Guardian temperament --
The Guardians value experience. They want value for their money's worth. They believe in common sense, and are not attracted to idle speculation. They are the glue of civilization: maintaining and nurturing institutions that have been established by the didn't of hard work. They tend to be conventional and cooperative in their work, wanting to make sure everybody gets what they deserve, no more and no less. Guardians tend to be very practical and frugal people, except when on vacation. When they get bad service on vacation, they will often complain or take note.
Guardians are observant and cooperative. Protectors, Inspectors, Supervisors, and Providers are the role variants contained within this category. Guardians seek membership or belonging and are concerned with responsibility and duty. Their greatest strength is logistical intelligence. They excel at organizing, facilitating, checking, and supporting.
N0help4u
Feb 24, 2008, 02:40 PM
Guardians tend to be very practical and frugal people, except when on vacation. When they get bad service on vacation, they will often complain or take note.
Must be on vacation:D
They say she constantly screams at secret service and staff calling them bleep bleep names.
Also I question her with money
Wondergirl
Feb 24, 2008, 02:44 PM
Must be on vacation:D
They say she constantly screams at secret service and staff calling them bleep bleep names.
Also I question her with money
Psst! Pssst! This is a POSITIVE thread!!
N0help4u
Feb 24, 2008, 02:48 PM
Psst! Pssst! This is a POSITIVE thread!!!!!!!
I am positively positive :rolleyes: :D
Wondergirl
Feb 24, 2008, 02:57 PM
I am positively positive :rolleyes: :D
Well, then. What can I say... You've said it all.
talaniman
Feb 24, 2008, 07:32 PM
Is there a reason you haven't posted on the John McCain thread? I wait with bated breath.
Wondergirl
Feb 24, 2008, 08:55 PM
If you're talking to me, I did earlier today. Twice.
talaniman
Feb 24, 2008, 09:12 PM
If you're talking to me, I did earlier today. Twice.
Lol So you did. OOOPS!:eek:
inthebox
Feb 24, 2008, 09:36 PM
She is politically smart enough to survive.
jennyrena
Feb 24, 2008, 11:06 PM
It is hard for me to see a woman running our great country, not to say women aren't amazing. But if it's left between obama nation and Mrs. Hillary I'm going Hillary without question or hesitation. I love this country and I pray that the right thing is done for it.
tomder55
Feb 25, 2008, 08:35 AM
I'll add one.. She has recently called Obama out on his empty rhetoric and messianic style . That forced him to give a long screed with specifics in Wisconsin and at the Texas debate. Now he has revealed what we always knew anyway... that he is about as extreme a candidate as the Democrats have ever fielded for the Presidency.
excon
Feb 25, 2008, 08:50 AM
that Obama is about as extreme a candidate as the Democrats have ever fielded for the Presidency.Hello tom:
That's a GOOD thing. What? You think someody in the middle can fix all the things your extreme right winger, George Bush, BROKE? I don't think so.
It's not surprising that you call restoring the Constitution extreme.
excon
speechlesstx
Feb 25, 2008, 09:23 AM
Ok, I'm trying... um, she is very determined, intelligent, adaptive, and I also give her kudos for standing by her man.
FeelSoNumbZombie
Feb 28, 2008, 12:27 PM
Strange thing happened to me the other day. After posting of never receiving a response to my email to Hillary- I received an email from Obama's Clan! WOW! That was quick! Just wanted everyone to realize that every single individual voice in the USA should be heard. And responded to. If they want your vote, that is. I believe every single voice in this country matters. Don't you?
talaniman
Feb 28, 2008, 04:23 PM
I'm with you, and tomorrow is the last day of early voting, so the wife and I, are going to voice our opinion, by voting.
BABRAM
Feb 28, 2008, 06:01 PM
(***This outstanding idea of sharing positive issues relating to a particular candadate was shared by NeedKarma. Thank you NK - I am truly so excited and I think it will be very beneifical.**_
With the firing of her ex-campaign manager, for once in Hillary's life she's juggled more women than Bill. Seriously though, I think she really means well with her Universal Health Care initiative.
SkyGem
Mar 2, 2008, 11:45 AM
6399
This thread is hereby established as a place to post POSITIVE attributes that apply to this canadate.
Things that you find about this canadate that are positive.
Due to all the negative press and mudslinging, having a place to come to post and read positive issues that apply to the canadates, perhaps can better help us with our upcoming descions.
Each canadate shall have their own thread.
(***This outstanding idea of sharing positive issues relating to a particular candadate was shared by NeedKarma. Thank you NK - I am truly so excited and I think it will be very beneifical.**_
Hillary Rodham Clinton is not only a great fighter for the American way but is serious about making this country better! There can be no doubt that with her husband having led our country out of the red and into the black, financially speaking, as well as having created THOUSANDS of NEW jobs before he left office among so many other accomplishments, she is with the right person for the job, whose husband can serve to further advise her on such matters. She sincerely cares about the poor, the middle class, jobs, education, Health Care, and many other very important items for all Americans. With her knowledge of how things work in Washington coupled with her Experience, and if that all-important call came at 3 A.M. I would want no one else but Hillary to be sitting in the White House to respond to those vital matters!
Hillary has her heart in the right place but many in the press and in the country are having a love affair with Obama's words, not any real substance or experience he could bring to solve the country's problems. In this respect, Hillary should rightfully get the nod! And I take great pride in knowing that Hillary DOES place her hand over her heart when the National anthem plays and during the Pledge of Allegiance and proudly wears the American flag pin, unlike Obama according to the news reports. Why won't he do this we just have to wonder! I don't know about you, but I want a person who WILL do either without hesitation as well as lead the country forward with her greater vision of our future and our security. In this regard, HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON beats her opponent and should rightfully become our next President!
BABRAM
Mar 2, 2008, 05:31 PM
Hillary is trying to find her husband at 3 a.m.. The idea of running an ad based on "stability" is not her forte; i.e. her sporadic reaction in debates and mood swings during the campaign. Drowsy from sleep I couldn't trust her to be reasonable even if it was three in the afternoon.
N0help4u
Mar 2, 2008, 05:37 PM
Hillary is trying to find her husband at 3 a.m.. The idea of running an ad based on "stability" is not her forte; i.e. her sporadic reaction in debates and mood swings during the campaign. Drowsy from sleep I couldn't trust her to be reasonable even if it was three in the afternoon.
All T00 true!
Of course you realize her 'mood swings' are not what they appear...
She is taking acting classes because "they'' feel she needs to have a human side :eek:
OF course this being a POSITIVE post:
ON the positive side...
Wondergirl
Mar 2, 2008, 05:55 PM
She was pretty darn funny and definitely relaxed last night on SNL in the opening skit.
BABRAM
Mar 2, 2008, 06:10 PM
I do find her amusing. Bill not to be outdone, as seen on the evening news, gave an acting performance by showing up at Joel Olsteen's church in Houston. :)
N0help4u
Mar 2, 2008, 06:22 PM
I do find her amusing. Bill not to be outdone, as seen on the evening news, gave an acting performance by showing at Joel Olsteen's church in Houston. :)
What a combo!
They DO need to go from politics to entertainment!
tomder55
Mar 3, 2008, 03:16 AM
And if you are going to run on "change" you have to look at personality . Obama has been steady unflappable and Hillary offers personality change on a daily basis. Clearly Hillary is the candidate of change.
speechlesstx
Mar 3, 2008, 07:25 AM
and if you are going to run on "change" you have to look at personality . Obama has been steady unflappable and Hillary offers personality change on a daily basis. Clearly Hillary is the candidate of change.
Adaptability, just like her husband. She can turn on a dime with the direction of the wind.
biggsie
Mar 3, 2008, 10:58 AM
"There you have it: Hillary Clinton, the soul of the Democratic Party, talking about
taxpayers? money like it's hers," said Americans for Tax Reform head Grover
Norquist. "What insufferable arrogance ? it's as though our taxes are hers to spend!"
mafiaangel180
Mar 3, 2008, 11:07 AM
According to David Keirsey (Please Understand Me II), Hillary is a Guardian temperament --
The Guardians value experience. They want value for their money's worth. They believe in common sense, and are not attracted to idle speculation. They are the glue of civilization: maintaining and nurturing institutions that have been established by the dint of hard work. They tend to be conventional and cooperative in their work, wanting to make sure everybody gets what they deserve, no more and no less. Guardians tend to be very practical and frugal people, except when on vacation. When they get bad service on vacation, they will often complain or take note.
Guardians are observant and cooperative. Protectors, Inspectors, Supervisors, and Providers are the role variants contained within this category. Guardians seek membership or belonging and are concerned with responsibility and duty. Their greatest strength is logistical intelligence. They excel at organizing, facilitating, checking, and supporting.
I read somewhere that she was an INTJ Rational. What type did it say she was exactly?
speechlesstx
Mar 3, 2008, 03:26 PM
Did everyone see the ad Nicholson did for Evita? Nice job Jack...
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tomder55
Mar 3, 2008, 04:17 PM
Now when someone wants to lift script from a movie they usually pay a pretty penny in royalties . I wonder if those fees were waved for the ad ,and if so ,how does that square with campaign finance laws?
Either way it is just a delay action to the inevidible. I like Gov Crist (Fla) ploy to have a replay of the Fla. Dem. Primary. Let's make every Democrat vote count... at least twice.
Wondergirl
Mar 3, 2008, 10:56 PM
I read somewhere that she was an INTJ Rational. What type did it say she was exactly?
She's an ESTJ.
Slate picked up the same information. Here's the article:
What psychological personality tests reveal about Clinton, Obama, and McCain. - By Emily Yoffe - Slate Magazine (http://www.slate.com/id/2184696/?from=rss)
mafiaangel180
Mar 4, 2008, 05:29 AM
She's an ESTJ.
Slate picked up the same information. Here's the article:
What psychological personality tests reveal about Clinton, Obama, and McCain. - By Emily Yoffe - Slate Magazine (http://www.slate.com/id/2184696/?from=rss)
Yeah, I just read that article. In the opening paragraph, Yoffe states that she applied MBTI to the three candidates. So supposedly it was just her take on it. I totally think Hilary is a Rational. But that's my own take on it. Lol.
speechlesstx
Mar 4, 2008, 07:57 AM
Now when someone wants to lift script from a movie they usually pay a pretty penny in royalties . I wonder if those fees were waved for the ad ,and if so ,how does that square with campaign finance laws?
Good question. Did Warner Bros and Sony sign off? Are the recently back to work writers getting their royalties from the televised showings and all the YouTube hits?
Either way it is just a delay action to the inevidible. I like Gov Crist (Fla) ploy to have a replay of the Fla. Dem. Primary. Let's make every Democrat vote count... at least twice.
Reportedly even Howard Dean is open to the idea. I like it, so much irony and intrigue. We can call the Democratic Party the "do over" party, if at first you don't succeed try, try again. Hillary has pretty much closed the gap in Texas according to a number of polls - in spite of being written off by many in her party and much of the media. She really isn't down that much in the delegate count and they'll split delegates in both Ohio and Texas. Do the Dems seem to have an aversion to winner take all primaries? I thought they were for a pure popular vote system.