Log in

View Full Version : Herbal remedies


starbuck8
Feb 5, 2008, 08:52 AM
I am trying to incorporate herbs and supplements into my diet, for many the many health benefits I've been hearing about.

Has anyone heard of, or tried a product called eyebright... or any other good herbal products for eye health? Also, are there any good herbal remedies for anxiety and/or panic attacks?

I've also heard about a kidney/liver detox that seems to be popular. Has anyone done this and if so, how does it work, what are the side effects, and how did it help?

Thanks!

tomder55
Feb 5, 2008, 09:49 AM
Eyebright herb was used as a folk remedy for a long time in Europe for treating the eyes. It is believed that the tannins in the plant reduce inflammation. It was originally prepared as a solution to put on the eyes but it is also taken orally . Most of the evidence supporting it's use is ancedotal.

Basic veggies like carrots spinach contain carotinoids and Lutein which are good nutrients for your eyes .

lovelesspa
Feb 14, 2008, 07:26 PM
For general good eye health, apricots, asparagus, cantelope, fish, leafy green veggies, like spinach, collards, turnips, even seaweed. The beta carotene in veggies and some fuits convert vitamin A in the body and helps improve vision.

N0help4u
Feb 22, 2008, 11:16 PM
Eat lots of fruits and vegetables they contain things like beta carotene, lycopene, lutein and other nutrients good for the eyes. Eyebright and bilberry are good for the eyes.
B12 might help with panick attacks. You have to be careful though if you are already taking meds for anxiety or depression.
A formula with Milk thistle is good for digestion detox.

lovelesspa
Mar 9, 2008, 12:51 PM
Milk thistle is good for liver detox about 200 mg. per day, but I think the best is 100% aloe vera juice, (the consistency will be very thick and clear). The eyebright has two areas that I feel should be considered before using, there's been a concern about the potential for contamination, and the FDA has not evaluated eyebright for safety (GRAS) status.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 01:04 PM
Thanks! I've been doing some reading, and actually caught Oprah lastweek where Dr. Oz talked about some of the things I was asking. I also learned that carrots, although good for you, got their reputation for good eye health in WW11. Apparently the Brits discovered radar, and the Germans wanted to know how they were spotting their bombers. Someone leaked the information that it was because the Brits were eating carrots for better eyesight. I had to giggle over that one! :D

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 01:08 PM
Yes that is true. Carrots don't really improve your sight but they are good for your vision, especially night vision. The vitamin A- beta carotene is what is good for your eyes.

lovelesspa
Mar 9, 2008, 01:59 PM
Carrots are a good source of Vitamin A (which does aid your night vision), beta carotene may help reduce the risk of cataract and macular degeneration. But some of the best vitamins for your eyes are Vitamin D, B (thiamine), a deficiency can lead to impaired visison. B2, a deficiency can affect muscous membranes and moist tissue of your eyes, B3, maintains nerve tissues, increases strength of the tissues in new cases of glaucoma, and floic acid, helps improve visual problems.also, Vitamin E, C, and Zinc.
Lutein (found in corn, egg yolk, yellow-green veggies) plays a part in slowing age related degeneration of eye tissue.
And Zeaxanthin found in squash, leeks, peas, celery, brussel spouts, chili peppers, lowers risks of cataracts, also.

bushg
Mar 9, 2008, 02:21 PM
Just to mention before I would try to many products at one time I think I would try one at a time for a period of weeks before I added another one. Also iot would be good if you could find a doctor that was onboard with your plan.
I saw a guy on Oprah a few weeks back that was blue from taking a supplement the doc said he was this color from the inside out and it would never change.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 02:29 PM
Just to mention before I would try to many products at one time I think I would try one at a time for a period of weeks before I added another one. Also iot would be good if you could find a doctor that was onboard wih your plan.
I saw a guy on Oprah a few weeks back that was blue from taking a supplement the doc said he was this color from the inside out and it would never change.

Oh, I saw a little bit of that show too! That was scary! I'm not going to load up on all of them at once for sure, and I am going to ask my doctor at my next visit what to incorporate first, and how long I should wait until adding something else. The problem is, around here it takes 3 months minimum to get in to see the Dr. and then you are allowed basically 1 "issue" per visit, because they are so overloaded with patients! Crazy eh?!

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 02:31 PM
The supplement that turns you blue is collidal silver. I don't think anybody should take that unless they need major detox.
The milk thistle I think should only be taken short term to cleanse your digestive system.
Vitamin A and B can be taken regularly as long as you don't exceed the RDA.
Too much beta carotene can turn you orange temporarily.

Eyebright and bilberry I only take when my eyes are really bothering me.
Not sure what too much or too often may be with them.
The rest are found in food but our food supply is 80% deficient of nutrients so
I really believe in taking supplements.

bushg
Mar 9, 2008, 02:33 PM
We are so spoiled in the USA if my kids get ill their doc see's them that day. She has even come in on Sundays. I should send her flowers, she has taken care of my children almost 15 years.

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 02:37 PM
Send her some GOOD dark chocolate --good for the antioxidents :D

bushg
Mar 9, 2008, 02:37 PM
Nohelp... I have also read that certain vitamins should not be taken if you smoke, drink etc. I think a lot of research should go into this before you start taking anything.
I have used herbs and vitamins for certain things but only after a lot of research. Also being raised in the country there were tried and true methods that was used, which we just grew up with.

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 02:44 PM
Yes it is best to research and see what is best for you.
I never heard of the not taking certain vitamins if you smoke and drink but
They must mean like vitamin E, k and other blood thinning ones because when you smoke and drink sores do not heal properly and if your thinning out your blood more by doing the E, K and blood thinners then it can be worse. But I see a lot of smokers and drinkers that take coumadin but they don't seem to care about their health.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 02:47 PM
Thanks for everyone's advice. It's interesting to get information and then feedback. My family on my mom's side all have very large eyes, which I inherited, and they have had problems with cataracts and other problems. I know how everyone hypes up our health care system in Canada, and it is good in most respects, but there are more patients than Dr.'s. When you live in a smaller city like I do, it is hard to get into the best Dr.'s unless you are on the ball as soon as a new one moves in. I also have friends that can get their kids, or themselves in for an appt on a day or two notice. Problem is, somebody has to die before they take a new patient basically :( Sad state of affairs, but that's how it works.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 02:50 PM
I've also gotten to be friends with my pharmacist! I can call her anytime and she will let me know if any of the supplements I want to take will react with the meds I'm on. I have high blood pressure, so I try to be very careful with that!

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 03:00 PM
It would be nice if you could post things on the draw backs of your health care system
On the current events board or somewhere
Because many people in the USA think that we need the socialized health
And they think it is the greatest idea since sliced bread.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 03:06 PM
It would be nice if you could post things on the draw backs of your health care system
on the current events board or somewhere
because many people in the USA think that we need the socialized health
and they think it is the greatest idea since sliced bread.

I will do that! I'm no expert, but I can certainly give my opinions from my experiences for sure. Our health care system needs a little fixing too!

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 03:14 PM
Yeah I was thinking you could use some newspaper articles and statistics

lovelesspa
Mar 9, 2008, 03:31 PM
I think a lot of people here think their system is great, because it's free, whereas a lot of Americans go without care because of the costs. When you're a young family with kids and your jobs doesn't provide insurance most young people just can afford to get it on their own. So the kids go without medical attention and that's really sad.

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 03:36 PM
Yeah. The thing is Hillary says that everybody will HAVE to buy into the health plan.
Which leads me to believe it ain't going to be free even to the poor.

The middle income suffers the worse cause they can't get the low income grants and plans that the poorer can get. Many people do not realize there IS stuff available to help them with their medical.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 03:37 PM
Yeah I was thinking you could use some newspaper articles and statistics

I think I could really only comment on my personal perspective and the road blocks I've encountered in dealing with the Dr.'s and so fourth. The Dr.'s here get frustrated with all of the red tape they have to deal with also. I had, in my opinion, the best Dr. in town who ended up closing up shop. He hated to leave patients that he had for yrs. but he was being nickled and dimed to death with government requirements. He ended up leaving our relatively small city, to open up a very small part time practise in an even smaller city.

I have been on a waiting list for a hip replacement (and I'm not that old! Haha) because of an injury I had many yrs ago. I had one appt with a specialist last fall, and since they don't consider it a "top priority" case, I was pencilled in somewhere towards the bottom of the list. In the meantime, I have to sit and wait! I can't enjoy a lot of the things I used to do! Skydiving is out, lol.

I could go on, but even though it's a "socialized" system... it sure has it's kinks!

lovelesspa
Mar 9, 2008, 03:38 PM
Yep, Ain't that the truth!

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 03:45 PM
That is what I hear a lot of
People have to wait 3 -6 months to get a dr appt. then 3 to 6 more months for the results, then 3 to 6 months later they haven't been able to get their hospital surgery or whatever and die while waiting.
This guy I know of that had a local program called Light Music moved to New Zealand and that is exactly what happened to him.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 03:45 PM
Oh it definitely isn't free! The premiums get higher and higher all the time! And YES, you are REQUIRED to have it, although they do have subsidy program depending on your income. But just try and talk to any of THOSE people! That's a laugh and a half!

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 03:47 PM
That is what I hear a lot of
People have to wait 3 -6 months to get a dr appt. then 3 to 6 more months for the results, then 3 to 6 months later they haven't been able to get their hospital surgery or whatever and die while waiting.
This guy I know of that had a local program called Light Music moved to New Zealand and that is exactly what happened to him.

I have known too many people that have died, just waiting for care! :mad:

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 03:49 PM
I get stuff in the mail all the time that says for $80. A month you can have their health insurance. I can't even afford $80. A month so I know I wouldn't be able to afford Hillicare
Cause like you said it may start cheap but then...
It is already hard to try and get an actual person to talk to when you call business
I can imagine with it being the government... yeah the (sick) joke is on us!

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 03:55 PM
I get stuff in the mail all the time that says for $80. a month you can have their health insurance. I can't even afford $80. a month so I know I wouldn't be able to afford Hillicare
cause like you said it may start out cheap but then.........
It is already hard to try and get an actual person to talk to when you call business
I can imagine with it being the government.....yeah the (sick) joke is on us!!

Yep! We're the puppets aren't we? I think required coverage for a husband and wife (no kids) is around $320 every 3 months. A lot of money, and even when you do have coverage, you still have to wait to get in anywhere. Crazy!

lovelesspa
Mar 9, 2008, 04:02 PM
I guess I'm pretty lucky where I live, you really never have to wait over 1 day to see a Doc, we have lots of good hospitals in this state and tons of Doctors. The last resort is always the Emergency Room, now there you might have a wait, especially on weekends. Too many people here use the emergency room as primary care when they don't have insurance cause 80% of the hospitals here can't refuse a patient. We need to get something going in this country, and I don't know how we can do it, but we seem to dig up money to go into space, all the time and do studies that serve no purpose, so I'm thinking we could use this kind of money for our people on Earth instead.

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 04:13 PM
They won't do an instead they WILL make us pay with taxes and paying into it.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 04:13 PM
Maybe we could ask Richard Branson or Trump for some of their bucks! I'm sure they have a few billion to spare. Branson is going with his family on a "vacation" to Mars for the day apparently... saw him say it on Oprah. Gee, wonder what the bill will be for that? And then they all sit and brag about their charities!

I know what you mean about the Hosp Emerg rooms. They are filled with people that could have waited out a cold! All of our hospitals cannot refuse anyone, even if their premiums are not up to date. I have had up to a 6 hr wait, and I refuse to go there unless it's something very serious.

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 04:21 PM
Well I think I'm going to go play in the street, stand close to my microwave, use tinfoil when I BBQ, maybe even eat worms, and all the other things I'm not suppose to do, lol. Hopefully I don't end up in ER tonight! :D

N0help4u
Mar 9, 2008, 04:27 PM
FamilyFun: W Is For Worms Cupcake Recipe - and More Family Fun (http://jas.familyfun.go.com/recipefinder/display?id=50064)

Have fun:D

starbuck8
Mar 9, 2008, 04:34 PM
FamilyFun: W Is For Worms Cupcake Recipe - and More Family Fun (http://jas.familyfun.go.com/recipefinder/display?id=50064)

Have fun:D

Gummy worms... Yum! Lotsa good nutrients! LOL!
Thanks! Have a good one! :)