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Da Bigchamp
Dec 30, 2007, 11:33 PM
I remember a while ago someone saying there's a way to get better eyesight without surgery. I have glasses and I want to know if this is true.
N0help4u
Dec 31, 2007, 02:15 PM
Eating fruits and vegetables with antioxidents such as green tea, carrots, pomegranates, bilberry, lutein and lycopene are suppose to help eyesight, at best they can help from further deterioration. I know the healthier I eat the better my vision is and other days when I don't eat healthy enough I scare myself that I feel like my vision is way worse.
A couple years ago somebody was selling a book on exercise for your eyes and he said that looking through pinhole size glasses forces your eyes to focus which strenghens the muscles.
Da Bigchamp
Dec 31, 2007, 02:17 PM
Thank you I'll guess I'll do a little research.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 12, 2008, 04:46 AM
Eye Therapy is crap, it doesn't work. There is nothing wrong with having Lasik or PRK if it is needed to correct your vision.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 12, 2008, 04:58 PM
Eye Therapy is crap, it doesn't work. There is nothing wrong with having Lasik or PRK if it is needed to correct your vision.
Yeah, tell me that when the doctor makes a mistake and I'm blind.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 12, 2008, 10:29 PM
Yeah, tell me that when the doctor makes a mistake and I'm blind.
I wouldn't have to. Do you know how many times that's happened? NEVER.:) You are just uneducated on the subject.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 13, 2008, 03:03 PM
I wouldn't have to. Do you know how many times that's happened? NEVER.:) You are just uneducated on the subject.
That is not true, look at the many possible things that could happen after the corrective precedure. Although not all of these happen due to a mistake, they are still things someone wouldn't want to happen. This is quoted from Munley.com (http://www.munley.com/lasik_eye_surgery.html).
Some patients lose vision. Some patients lose lines of vision on the vision chart that cannot be corrected with glasses, contact lenses, or surgery as a result of treatment.
Some patients develop debilitating visual symptoms. Some patients develop glare, halos, and/or double vision that can seriously affect nighttime vision. Even with good vision on the vision chart, some patients do not see as well in situations of low contrast, such as at night or in fog, after treatment as compared to before treatment.
You may be under treated or over treated. Only a certain percent of patients achieve 20/20 vision without glasses or contacts. You may require additional treatment, but additional treatment may not be possible. You may still need glasses or contact lenses after surgery. This may be true even if you only required a very weak prescription before surgery. If you used reading glasses before surgery, you may still need reading glasses after surgery.
Some patients may develop severe dry eye syndrome. As a result of surgery, your eye may not be able to produce enough tears to keep the eye moist and comfortable. Dry eye not only causes discomfort, but can reduce visual quality due to intermittent blurring and other visual symptoms. This condition may be permanent. Intensive drop therapy and use of plugs or other procedures may be required.
Results are generally not as good in patients with very large refractive errors of any type. You should discuss your expectations with your doctor and realize that you may still require glasses or contacts after the surgery.
You should also take a look at this. Laser Eye Surgery: LASIK complications, LASIK performed incorrectly (http://www.resource4surgicalaccidents.com/eye.html)
J_9
Jan 13, 2008, 03:18 PM
I wouldn't have to. Do you know how many times that's happened? NEVER.:) You are just uneducated on the subject.
It looks as though you are uneducated on the subject.
Scientists at Ohio State University analyzed data from 605 patients who had undergone LASIK (laser-assisted in-situ keratomileusis) surgery at least six months earlier. Reported vision problems included seeing halos, starbursts and glare surrounding lights - problems that can affect the quality of vision at night.
The study showed that these symptoms may persist in some patients long after the eye heals.
I guess you haven't seen this report from the FDA
US FDA/CDRH: LASIK - What are the risks and how can I find the right doctor for me? (http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/lasik/risks.htm)
Da Bigchamp
Jan 13, 2008, 03:32 PM
I still need to know any alternatives to laser eye surgery.
J_9
Jan 13, 2008, 03:43 PM
I don't know that there are any tried and true alternatives that are as effective as Lasik. While there are people who have had bad outcomes with the surgery, that number is significantly lower than those who have good outcomes.
Diet and possibly eye exercise may help, but they are not guaranteed either.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 13, 2008, 03:46 PM
I just don't want to risk my eyesight if all I want is to lose the glasses.
J_9
Jan 13, 2008, 04:02 PM
I don't blame you there. You may not even be a candidate for Lasik surgery. You know that not all people can have this done.
I know, ummm, I think about 10 people that have had this done and only one regrets it as he sees halos at night, and his night vision is virtually ruined as far as driving at night goes.
Also, while some doctors are "licensed" or "certified" to do this, their track record proves less than admirable.
I would check (If you are in the US) with an FDA approved doctor.
Have you seen this site?
US FDA/CDRH: LASIK - FDA-Approved Lasers for LASIK (http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/lasik/lasers.htm)
Da Bigchamp
Jan 13, 2008, 04:13 PM
Well I know that I'm not getting the procedure done, some of the things I do to make money are dependent on my ability to see. Also in one of my jobs, there is a extremely high chance I'll be taking hits to the face.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 13, 2008, 04:16 PM
Well, I've never heard of it happening. Perhaps I just work for a great doctor. He's performed over 16,000 surgeries and no one has gone blind. How many people actually gone blind due to LASIK?
Da Bigchamp
Jan 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
Well, I've never heard of it happening. Perhaps I just work for a great doctor. He's performed over 16,000 surgeries and no one has gone blind. How many people actually gone blind due to LASIK?
I'm not sure how many people have gone blind, but I do know that there are possibilities of hindered vision.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 13, 2008, 10:04 PM
I'm not sure how many people have gone blind, but I do know that there are possibilities of hindered vision.
Blindness and hindered vision are two very different things. And if you are not a candidate for LASIK there are many other procedures for vision correction that are available. But I cannot think of anything other than contacts, glasses, and Laser eye correction to help you see better...
Da Bigchamp
Jan 14, 2008, 04:01 PM
Well either way, I can't have hindered vision or blindness. All I wanted to know if there was an alternative to eye surgery.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 14, 2008, 06:13 PM
Well either way, I can't have hindered vision or blindness. All I wanted to know if there was an alternative to eye surgery.
Glasses or contacts.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 14, 2008, 07:39 PM
If you were reading, you would already know I have glasses. I'm trying to lose the glasses and contacts without surgery.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 14, 2008, 07:43 PM
If you were reading you would know that other than glasses, contacts, and surgery there are no other alternatives... sorry... Take your pick.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 14, 2008, 07:52 PM
It isn't true, I have heard of people getting back their 20/20 vision. One of my old middle school friends had to wear glasses, and almost a year later he got his regular vision back. He told me he was doing some kind of eye excersizes, and back then I didn't have glasses so I didn't care to ask him some more questions.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 15, 2008, 05:29 PM
Okay, if anyone else disagrees with me, please say so instead of giving me a reddie. Don't you think three is enough? Geez, people.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 15, 2008, 05:30 PM
Eye therapy doesn't work... it's crap. Like I said.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 15, 2008, 05:34 PM
Then explain how my old friend got his regular eyesight back?
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 15, 2008, 05:45 PM
Then explain how my old friend got his regular eyesight back?
Did he tell you that or did his doctor tell you that? Adn believe it or not, eyesight DOES get better. It'll get worse eventually.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 15, 2008, 05:49 PM
His doctor did, his father was an optometrist. All I know was that his dad put him on the excersize.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 15, 2008, 05:51 PM
His doctor did, his father was an optometrist. All I know was that his dad put him on the excersize.
Yeah, Im sorry, Ive worked for Optometrists... they're not all the brightest crayons in the box. And they are not Medical Doctors... I only trust my eyes to someone that has a medical degree.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 15, 2008, 09:19 PM
You know what, since no one here can answer my question and is just here to go back and forth about methods. I'm ignoring all future posts.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 15, 2008, 10:02 PM
Good, people give you answers and if they are not "I know someone that can perform magic to make your eyesight perfect" then you don't want to hear it. I already told you that I work for someone that gets as close to that as possible, but you won't hear it. You only see the bad outcomes of Laser eye surgery. There are far better outcomes. I saw a patient today, at his follow-up after surgery. Before surgery he was 20/200 in both eyes, today (three months later), he was 20/10 in his right (dominant eye), and 20/15 in his left eye.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 15, 2008, 10:48 PM
I was talking about you. And it's not that I want some magic, it's that I've seen people who have gotten back their eyesight without lasik eye surgery and are living a contact and glasses free life. I look at it this way, I can get contacts and that would be okay. There's no risk and it will give me the eyesight I need without it hindering my abilities. But if I get laser eye surgery, there's a risk that it would hinder my abilities to an extent where I cannot perform the tasks that my job require. Then if I do end up having night blindness or any other bad outcome, I will not be able to work and get money so I can provide for my family. So when you tell me lasik eye surgery works and that is your only alternative besides glasses, I see it as your telling me to risk putting my ability to provide for my family so I can get lasik eye surgery. I'm just asking if anyone here knows of the alernatives to lasik eye surgery and then you tell me what I don't want to hear.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 17, 2008, 09:20 PM
I was talking about you. And it's not that I want some magic, it's that I've seen people who have gotten back thier eyesight without lasik eye surgery and are living a contact and glasses free life. I look at it this way, I can get contacts and that would be okay. There's no risk and it will give me the eyesight I need without it hindering my abilities. But if I get laser eye surgery, theres a risk that it would hinder my abilities to an extent where I cannot perform the tasks that my job require. Then if I do end up having night blindness or any other bad outcome, I will not be able to work and get money so I can provide for my family. So when you tell me lasik eye surgery works and that is your only alternative besides glasses, I see it as your telling me to risk putting my ability to provide for my family so I can get lasik eye surgery. I'm just asking if anyone here knows of the alernatives to lasik eye surgery and then you tell me what I don't want to hear.
I'm sorry that you don't want to hear the truth. If their "eye therapy worked for them, try it. If you don't mind contacts, get them.
kp2171
Jan 17, 2008, 09:42 PM
OK... so you only want to hear what you want to hear?
If you know people who have gotten their vision back, ask THEM!
And stop being a whining little snot who doesn't like to hear the truth.
Man... change your login to dabigchump.
b!tch and moan all you want. It hasn't stopped you yet.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 17, 2008, 11:42 PM
I'm sorry that you don't want to hear the truth. If their "eye therapy worked for them, try it. If you don't mind contacts, get them.
That is the thing, I don't know these people anymore and that is why I'm asking the question. If ou paid attention to my posts you would know that.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 17, 2008, 11:44 PM
And I'd wish you all to say that to me in real life.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 18, 2008, 12:06 AM
Sorry I'm not going to travel to where you are just to tell you that you have limited options. Get contacts.
Da Bigchamp
Jan 18, 2008, 12:08 AM
O well next time I'm in Vancouver, maybe you'll have a chance.
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 21, 2008, 01:53 AM
Nohelp4u--sounds like the person you are referring to has epithelial ingrowth, she should talk to her doctor... they just lift the flap clean under it and all is good... just means that skin was growing under her flap. If the eyesight in that eye isn't as well, that's another sign...
supriya _82
Jan 25, 2008, 07:24 AM
I admire ChihuahuaMomma (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/chihuahuamomma.html) who is valiantly trying to impart some genuine scientific information. I am totally on your side Momma. As they say "Where ignorance is bliss................" People just want to be told what they want to hear.
supriya _82
Jan 25, 2008, 07:32 AM
And J_9 - health expert!! Night blindness (or Nyctalopia) is caused by Vitamin A deficiency, specifically Beta Carotene. Lasik & Night Blindness??
ChihuahuaMomma
Jan 25, 2008, 09:01 AM
I admire ChihuahuaMomma (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/chihuahuamomma.html) who is valiantly trying to impart some genuine scientific information. I am totally on your side Momma. As they say "Where ignorance is bliss................" People just want to be told what they want to hear.
Thank you, Supriya.
twinkiedooter
Jan 30, 2008, 07:37 PM
To help your eyesight may I suggest taking Lutein. It has helped my eyesight sharpen and get a bit better. It is expensive though but could help you.
drhani
Feb 19, 2008, 05:36 AM
Hi friend my eyesight iz -2 .five yrs back I used a homeo pathic medicine and that was really very effective now I'm planning to go to the same dr I remembered my eyesight was improved to -1 but again it iz -2 as I have to read a lot due to my studies and I don't sleep at night homeopathic medicines don't have side effects I will tell you the name of that med after consulting to homeo dr,,
ChihuahuaMomma
Feb 22, 2008, 10:50 PM
That doesn't make much sense.
What medicine are you referring to? How is it used? And are you saying that you went from a -2.50 to a -1.00 to a -2.00?? That's not your eye sight getting better, that's some drug messing with your vision and making it fluctuate. Is that in both eyes? Left? Right?
Have you consulted an acutal medical doctor about this?
Jnkmeiwes
Mar 14, 2008, 10:15 PM
Have you tried wearing contacts?
Da Bigchamp
Mar 14, 2008, 10:23 PM
Have you tried wearing contacts?
Yeah, that's what I'm wearing now. Although someone did message me some information. It has been helping my vision greatly, I still need glasses or contacts but it's stopping my eyesight from getting worse. This person didn't want to post it because of the constant attacks on this post.
Jnkmeiwes
Mar 14, 2008, 10:50 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm wearing now. Although someone did message me some information. It has been helping my vision greatly, I still need glasses or contacts but it's stopping my eyesight from getting worse. This person didn't want to post it becuase of the constant attacks on this post.
I do not know what all of your visual problems are but Visual therapies DO work for certain eye diseases. For an example:
A child age 2-5 has a lazy eye. (1 eye that see's worse than the other) parents are encouraged to patch the good eye in order to build strengh in the bad eye. Another method is by dilating the good eye to blur it out and make the weak eye work harder to see to strengthin it. After the age of about 7 though this method doesn't work as well because you eyes lose some of the abilities to accommodate (see with out glasses).
There are other visual therapies I have heard of but am not familiar with though. Find out what you exact condition is. A lot of people think lasik fixes ALL eye problems, when really it only corrects near or far sightedness and occasionally is used for certain corneal eye problems as treatments.
Let me know if I can help.
(PS I am a certified ophthalmic tech)
Da Bigchamp
Mar 15, 2008, 08:18 AM
I do not know what all of your visual problems are but Visual therapies DO work for certian eye diseases. For an example:
A child age 2-5 has a lazy eye. (1 eye that see's worse than the other) parents are encouraged to patch the good eye in order to build strengh in the bad eye. Another method is by dilating the good eye to blur it out and make the weak eye work harder to see to strengthin it. After the age of about 7 though this method doesn't work as well because you eyes lose some of the abilities to accomodate (see with out glasses).
There are other visual therapies I have heard of but am not familar with though. Find out what you exact condition is. Alot of people think lasik fixes ALL eye problems, when really it only corrects near or far sightedness and occasionally is used for certian corneal eye problems as treatments.
Let me know if I can help.
(PS I am a certified ophthalmic tech)
I just have near sightedness, I didn't want to do lasik because of the risk of messing up my eyesight. Someone did send me a site that described some eye therapy that has been working for me, and with the suggestion of Lutein fro someone my vision has been getting better. It's not up to the point of where I don't have to wear glasses or contacts, but I can make out things more effectivly.
Jnkmeiwes
Mar 15, 2008, 10:34 AM
I have a question, Are you a smoker? Lutein eye vitamins are usually given to patients that smoke because some of the "other" vitamins may have a systemic affect. If you are not a smoker then check out ARED vitamins (Age Related Eye Disease). But as always you should check with your Dr before mixing medications, even OTC meds.
Da Bigchamp
Mar 15, 2008, 06:56 PM
I have a question, Are you a smoker? Lutein eye vitamins are usually given to patients that smoke because some of the "other" vitamins may have a systemic affect. If you are not a smoker then check out ARED vitamins (Age Related Eye Disease). But as always you should check with your Dr before mixing medications, even OTC meds.
Im not a smoker, I may have smoked once or twice to try it but never caught my tastes. And dude, I'm only 19, I don't have any eye diseases and am too young to have age related eye problems. I'm only near sighted and am trying to fix my eyes a little. I sat in front of the TV a little too long.
ChihuahuaMomma
Mar 15, 2008, 07:23 PM
Im not a smoker, I may have smoked once or twice to try it but never caught my tastes. and dude, I'm only 19, I don't have any eye diseases and am too young to have age related eye problems. I'm only near sighted and am trying to fix my eyes a little. I sat in front of the tv a little too long.
Being 19 does not disclude you from having an eye disease.
Da Bigchamp
Mar 15, 2008, 08:22 PM
Being 19 does not disclude you from having an eye disease.
Yea, I know it will not stop me from having disease but it will stop me from having age related disease. Im not going to get disease because I am the age of 19.
ChihuahuaMomma
Mar 16, 2008, 01:42 AM
Age related diseases such as cataracts can happen to younger people too. They are mostly cause by trauma.. So that is not entirely true.
Da Bigchamp
Mar 16, 2008, 03:36 PM
Age related diseases such as cataracts can happen to younger people too. They are mostly cause by trauma.. So that is not entirely true.
I know about cataracts, what I meant by my statement is that I am not old.
ChihuahuaMomma
Mar 16, 2008, 04:27 PM
I know about cataracts, what I meant by my statement is that I am not old.
I can't assume what you mean, I can just read the words and go by that.
MikeCoza2012
Mar 19, 2012, 01:09 AM
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