Hi, everyone,
What is the best method to win the lottery?
Why I can't to work manually for my ticket,and is recommended a software?
And,if occasionally is logical possible to win, why not permanently? I mean,is there possible to make an income from lottery?
Please, I must many opinions to be convinced.
Thanks in advance
Magdalene

You definitely can not make an income from the lottery unless you win the jackpot which is VERY unlikely.

I used to work in a place that sold lottery and it was very sad to see the people who would come in and buy MUCH more than they can afford. There were a few who would spend $100 or more every week on the lottery and then only win MAYBE $10 each week. You can become addicted to playing the lottery, and it is very hard to kick it.

This is not logical, you WILL put more money into the lottery then you will win.

The lottery is a voluntary tax for people that don't understand mathematics.

Take the money you would spend on the lottery and invest it in a money market account. You will be better off in 20 years.

You wrote that you want more info... what more do you what to know?

Emland is right, say if you spend only $10 a week on the lottery that adds up to $104,000 in 20 years. And in 20 years you will most likely have not have won that much to have made an earning.

the answer is NO... it isn't logical to make income from the lottery.

it's a matter of statistics and odds. The games are designed such that the number of possible combinations are so big that payouts are rare.

its really simple probability. You can refuse to believe all you want. You think waren buffet or bill gates invests their millions in lottery tickets?

not going to work. You can pretend that the mathematical odds aren't against it, but that's your choice I guess.

ill throw a buck their way now and then, but I'm not planning my financial future on a statistically unlikely event.

still don't believe me? Read the following link... has terrible font... don't get too caught up in the math, just read their conclusions... which is the people who set up the lottery know what they are doing. They are not trying to make you rich. They are not trying to give you income. They are counting on more dollars coming in than out. They set it up statistically so that wins are rare.

and just because this addresses the big payoff, don't think they haven't done the same calculations for the smaller prizes.

How to Hack the Lottery - DocDroppers (http://www.docdroppers.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Hack_the_Lottery)

Tomorrow I'll have more time to link to your recommendation
Magdalene

I'm also a skeptical regarding lottery. But one year ago I knew a man that won serious money at lotto,immediately hired a room in the hotel,took two boys and computer and since then win permanently including three times jackpot {in a single year}.
Since I don't stop to think about. Maybe there is a new method... For sure, he buy many tickets... I also know that he makes it manually. I don't understand why he needs a computer? And I know that he is so far from mathematics and statistical knowledge because anterior he was a farmer{horse}
How you explain it?
Magdalene

Dear Kp2171,
After I've read the article you recommended I am disappointed by the "black"opinion of author. Nothing he said new for me. Nevertheless I respect his point of view.
When I asked about income, I intended about a modest income,not necessary a jackpot. This may be a win/win situation for all including states. I asked if somebody knows such method for this purpose.
If I told about story of one man I know precisely ,I presume that there are many others in the world like this one that know maybe the "secret".
Magdalene

Hello M:

The house always wins, and you aren't the house. People have been trying to change that forever. Nobody ever has.

excon

Lottery numbers are drawn at random. There are many "systems" for predicting what the numbers will be but they are all guesswork. I'm curious where you heard about this man. Was he, by chance, trying to sell you his system?

Don't you understand that, as mentioned, even the lesser prizes are figured into the odds and the dollars in/dollars out ratios.

There are a lot of shams and scams out there.

Just because someone says they won doesn't mean they did. If its true, where was it? What's the mans name? Where do you live? These are not issues that are secret.

I know, I know... you don't want to blow the cover.

You are not smarter than mathematical formulas. This isn't about tracking patterns. This isn't about foreign policy or elections or war or the housing market (all of which can affect things like the stock market)... the drawing of a ball is a statistically independent event from all the others, and outside of physical tampering with the machine or balls, there is no system.

Can someone win a big prize more than once? Yes. Its happened. Statistically can a person be hit my lightening more than once and live. Happens.

You want to spend your time on this instead of reasonable investment strategy, OK. Your life.

Like I said, ill throw a buck their way now and then. Its irresponsible and naïve to think this is a good way to make a modest living. Start a small business. Employ people. Build something. Create something.

Can you make an honest living playing bingo three nights a week? no. same ideas folks.

I get the feeling that this thread is just going to go on and on with "but...but...but"...

"black" opinion of the author, as in a dim or poor opinion of "methods to win"?.

See... that's the problem right there. It is statistical fact. Mathematical answers. It is not opinion!

But you don't believe in math I guess? Explain?

Emland is right, say if you spend only $10 a week on the lottery that adds up to $104,000 in 20 years. And in 20 years you will most likely have not have won that much to have made an earning.
How does $10 a week add up to $104,000 in 20 years?

10,400... though the point is probably just as valid.

10,400... though the point is probably just as valid.
I understand the point. I just didn't know how he/she came up with their numbers :confused:

Big deal... I accidentally put one extra 0!

big deal... I accidently put one extra 0!
Add that extra zero to my bank account. Pleazzz:)

Haha

Hi,
I explain "random" as we know the effect, we don't know the cause.
All mathematical formulas concerning Lotto are based on probability. This means "maybe".
And all work on the effect, not on the cause.
Please, understand me right. I'm not advocating against math. I only ask many questions to find-with your help- new fresh perspective regarding this issue, instead from what you knew until now.
Do you allow me that??
We live in 21 Century.
Magdalene

Hi,
I explain "random" as we know the effect, we don't know the cause.
All mathematical formulas concerning Lotto are based on probability. This means "maybe".
And all work on the effect, not on the cause.
Please, understand me right. I'm not advocating against math. I only ask many questions to find-with your help- new fresh perspective regarding this issue, instead from what you knew until now.
Do you allow me that??????????
We live in 21 Century.
Magdalene
HUH? This makes no sense to me:confused:
Put quite simply for the thread starter - The odds are against you to win let alone earn a living playing the lottery. But it doesn't hurt to buy a few tickets a week and have hope that you may be that lucky winner...

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Magdalena (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/magdalena.html) disagrees: The numbers are NOT drawn at random
First, may I call your attention to the guidelines for using the comments feature found here:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/feedback/using-comments-feature-24951.html

Now what lottery are you referring to where the numbers are not drawn at random? I'll use the Powerball and Megamillions multi-state lotteries in the US as examples.Both use a system where numbered ping pong balls are drwn into an air chute randomly. In every lottery I've seen the number are generated randomly, from some seed number.

Emland is right, say if you spend only $10 a week on the lottery that adds up to $104,000 in 20 years. And in 20 years you will most likely have not have won that much to have made an earning.
This is a valid point even if the math is incorrect.

The only way to insure making an income from the lottery is to go to work for the lottery.

Hi,
I explain "random" as we know the effect, we don't know the cause.
All mathematical formulas concerning Lotto are based on probability. This means "maybe".
And all work on the effect, not on the cause.
Please, understand me right. I'm not advocating against math. I only ask many questions to find-with your help- new fresh perspective regarding this issue, instead from what you knew until now.
Do you allow me that??????????
We live in 21 Century.
Magdalene

well fine. You want to take this angle... OK.

probability deals with the likelihood of an event occurring... which in your mind means it focuses on the event (the "effect" in your wording) and ignores the factors that might play into how each event is chosen.

wrong.

the formulas do NOT ignore the causes of one ball to be picked over another. You say we live in the 21st century? OK. Step right in yourself. Offer me proof or evidence that one ball should be picked over another.

the makers of the game go to great lengths to make sure one ball isn't especially heavy or light. One could argue that if you start with the same balls before "marking" with numbers... that they are all uniform weight and size, that numbers with more surface area (like 49 versus 1) might be "off balance" toward the number side. But I don't even know how the numbers are placed... embedded... simply pigmented plastic... etc... AND the POLYMER CHEMISTS who do R&D on this kind of stuff actually DO live in the 21st century.

I don't work in this field, but I'm a chemist myself, and if my company manufactures this kind of product, we are going to take all angles and avenues to make sure that all balls are statistically "equivalent" within an acceptable norm.

same goes for the people who make the machines, blah blah blah.

so how does this tie in to your incorrect comment about statistics focusing on the event and not the cause? Because when the all things are made equal here... that is the balls are equal within a tolerable range, etc... the cause is equal across the board. Choosing one ball is an independent event having nothing to do with what came before (other than the number pool getting smaller) and having no special "force" favoring 3 over 38.

laws of physics govern what happens to the balls in the machine right? Lots of collisions, changes in velocity, momentum, etc. well physics is based on math at its core.

so... before you say "but...but...but" over and over...

why don't YOU offer something to change OUR minds? You prove to me that there is some other factor at play. You come up with the proof. You explain why there needs to be anything else.

the burden is on you. You think we are just towing the common line. I think I'm more educated about science and math. I think I'm open to discussion... but at some point you need to offer more than "but...but...but"

after all, we live in the 21st century.

Good morning,Today I have a bit time to answer you...
With your knowledge about Lotto, never you'll have any chance to win. But because you are ready to "change your mind ", I'll help you to do that.
Everything is the result of a cause.
As a result of using mathematical formulas only, there are 98-99% losers and 1-2% winners occasionally.
This means, the probability is good , but not enough.
We have to think more largely..
The Lottery is a big business of States ,that give you { Amen ! } a fair possibility {I hope }
to win some money. If you don't think business, don't touch the Lottery.
So, Lotto or Lottery {it's the same Evil} is there for the taking for who know how to play.
If that and this method doesn't point to,. you must to try something else. Maybe an unorthodox strategy...
A step further is to brainstorm.
Let's brainstorm together...
- is the luck, chance, random the only ingredient ?
- is the logical way of thinking the only way or the only possibility ?
- is the "can't "attitude really effective?
- and so...
Ah!. figures... figures.. something goes to be discovered... soooooooooon...
Magdalene

The best way to win with the lottery is to start a business where you can sell the tickets! Heck, sell books about ways to win the lottery as well! Other ideas are shirts or hats with funny sayings about playing or spending money on the lottery, You could sell so many things connected to the lottery that it would fill up a pretty good area!

The only way to insure that you win the lottery is to play every conceivable number combination. As I said drawings are random, you can play with probabilities all you want, but it comes down to a random drawing.

Good morning,Today I have a bit time to answer you......
With your knowledge about Lotto, never you'll have any chance to win. But because you are ready to "change your mind ", I'll help you to do that.
Everything is the result of a cause.
As a result of using mathematical formulas only, there are 98-99% losers and 1-2% winners occasionally.
This means, the probability is good , but not enough.
We have to think more largely..
The Lottery is a big business of States ,that give you { Amen ! } a fair possibility {I hope }
to win some money. If you don't think business, don't touch the Lottery.
So, Lotto or Lottery {it's the same Evil} is there for the taking for who know how to play.
If that and this method doesn't point to,...you must to try something else. Maybe an unorthodox strategy....
A step further is to brainstorm.
Let's brainstorm together....
- is the luck, chance, random the only ingredient ?
- is the logical way of thinking the only way or the only possibility ?
- is the "can't "attitude really effective?
- and so...
Ah!!!...figures....figures..something goes to be discovered...soooooooooon.........
Magdalene

Is the "can't" attitude effective?

I think living in reality is effective. I think knowing the truth is pretty darn effective.

Yes lottery is a business. And people who run a successful business know about projected profits and risk assessment.
That you think this can be worked around is just sad.

You can try to "positive think" your way all you want... if you are looking to channel some "force" to help you win the lotto... OK. Good luck with that. If you choose to "pray" for riches, OK. Your choice. Which religion, exactly, uses winning the lotto as a pillar of faith... hmmmm..?

Outside of divine intervention, you are just left with false hope... but hey, false hope is still hope. Right? Anyone?

Answer these questions please...

How much money do you have in tax deferred accounts?
What does your investment portfolio look like?
What kind of diversification?
Do you own a home? Do you consider a home a wise investement financially... is it an asset or liability from an investment standpoint?

I've got a bunch of other questions... just curious about those first... and no, I'm not off topic.

There is no strategy to win the lottery. It's completely random. That said, there's no possible way to control it. You win by pure luck and that's it.

if you spend only $10 a week on the lottery that adds up to $104,000 in 20 years.
CaptainRich disagrees: Your math is incorrect.True. She added an extra 0. She meant $10,400.

Hi, kp2171
The first home is not a wise investment. It is like the ravenous mouth... It requests an endless new invest. But{it's a word that you love, isn't it ? } it's a necessary harm... you know why... The second home is a good invest. In certain conditions. Yes, I have the both.
What is a wise investment is another story...
And for diversification subject we need to sit and seriously discuss because it is important in these days.
Back to Lotto. What you wrote me is "Let Magdalena sleep and keep your money" There is not another idea how to win the Lottery. In fact it's impossible...
Whole this forum is full of skeptics, while I think in a different way.
Sadly
Good Night
Magdalene

Whole this forum is full of skeptics, while I think in a different way.
Sadly
Good Night
Magdalene

Yes. We most definately think differently.

I think you have issues facing the truth. I think everyone else here understands it.

I think gambling as a means to make a positive cash flow is a lousy plan. You think otherwise.

I think when you talk to people on an online forum and you ask for help with something, and then you ramble through the thread, throwing "disagree" tags on posts because people aren't saying what you want to hear... I think that its rude!! You seem to think otherwise.

I think when you are asked to explain what this mystical "other" thing is outside of proven mathematical concepts, you ramble on with incomplete thoughts and still... to THIS moment, have yet to offer ANYTHING other than your hoping there is another way to win the lotto. You seem to think that there MUST be some other thing involved. And yet you cannot explain it or even prove it to any degree. Or even give even a crumb of an interesting angle to pursue.

And I think its time for me to disengage from this post and not return... there are other people needing advice who are willing to listen... and anyone else here grounded in thoughtful discussion should do the same. I think, since you aren't listening anyway, you'll be happy here talking to nobody but yourself.

Done with you. Done with this thread. Done wasting time here.

Magdalena, if you believe so strongly that you can make a guaranteed profit from playing the lottery, I'm wondering if you are confident enough to invest all of your money into your plan, and put your money where your mouth is? Or is it other people's money that you want to have invested into your scheme? Odds are that you won't be going home rich.

But I assume your system to be something like having a vision of things to happen in the future... so you probably already knew I was going to send this message.

Lol!!

Hi, kp2171
The first home is not a wise investment. It is like the ravenous mouth....It requests an endless new invest. But{it's a word that you love, isn't it ? } it's a necessary harm...you know why...The second home is a good invest. in certain conditions. Yes, I have the both.
What is a wise investment is another story....
And for diversification subject we need to sit and seriously discuss because it is important in these days.
Back to Lotto. What you wrote me is "Let Magdalena sleep and keep your money" There is not another idea how to win the Lottery. In fact it's impossible...
Whole this forum is full of skeptics, while I think in a different way.
Sadly
Good Night
Magdalene

A first home is not a wise investment?? What fantasy world do you live in? I can tell you for a FACT that had I not bought my first home when I did (30 years ago) I would not be living as comfortably as I am now with a huge amount of equity in my home. In 1978 I read an article by Sylvia Porter (a financial columnist for the NY Daily News) in which she advised tto do anything you could to buy a home that year. I took this advice an bought a small bungalow. Eight years later I sold that bungalow for 4 times what I paid for it. This gave me a lot of money to down on my next house (in suburbia) where I still live. After 20 years that house is worth more than double what I paid for it and, I have well over 50% equity in it. So yes a first home can be a very wise investment and usually is.

We are not "skeptics", we are realists. We understand that lotteries are gambling and in gambling the odds are against the player. Something you seem to refuse to accept. Lottery drawings are made as random as they possible can be.

And I also agree with KP, you are using the rate this post feature improperlky and rudely.

The best way to win with the lottery is to start a business where you can sell the tickets! Heck, sell books about ways to win the lottery as well! Other ideas are shirts or hats with funny sayings about playing or spending money on the lottery, You could sell so many things connected to the lottery that it would fill up a pretty good area!
If you are so sure that this will work, why don't you take your own advice and be the one that starts this business? Or, invest stock into Magdalene starting this lottery biz?:D

I didn't say it would be a successful business... I just think it has better odds than playing the lottery. As far as investing with Magdalena, I'm waiting for someone to offer me a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge!

Hey Ohio,

I have a good question: What is the best method to rob a bank then fly to another country with 5 million and live like a king? LOL

Do you think the odds are better robbing a bank then playing the lottery?

The best method for achieving what you mentioned about the bank robbery is to keep it in your dreams!

Odds are better you would have a roof over your head for longer if you robbed the bank than if you put everything into the lottery. It might be the jail house roof though.

The best way to win with the lottery is to start a business where you can sell the tickets! Heck, sell books about ways to win the lottery as well! Other ideas are shirts or hats with funny sayings about playing or spending money on the lottery, You could sell so many things connected to the lottery that it would fill up a pretty good area!


My point with the above statement was that it would be better to put $100,000 or some said amount of money into starting a business selling the lottery tickets (if your intention is for profit) as opposed to spending the same money buying tickets expecting to profit from playing the lottery.

I was not intending to guarantee any positive results of such a business. I was thinking of the commission that sellers get, as well as bonuses for selling winning tickets to customers.

Those may be small amounts equal to the small payouts from the lottery scenario as well, but assuming proper management of a business, the long term potential seems more appealing than risking the investment on a lottery system designed to have more money lost than is won.

Yes, I agree with you regarding the odds at winning the lottery. However, I don't think that a book about ways to win would ever sell. You need to have content. How many pages could a person dream up for a book and stand behind there method?

Merchandise would be a good idea though...

lottery winning books - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=lottery+winning+books)

A lot of people are doing the books... Might make money just reselling the ones that have already been done.

My understanding at least in GA and TN, stores that sell the lottery tickets only get 5 percent of the sale. So if you figure they get 5 cents to sell the ticket, and then have to check them for winners, pay out small winners, turn those tickets back into the state for payment, and so on.
I doubt they actually make money off the tickets, the time and money they pay the clerk to do these things, is most likely a lot more than the money they get from the tickets thierself. For example to pay a clerk 10 dollars a hour ( assuming a 7 dollar a hour clerk and the tax costs of them.
You will have to sell 200 tickets a hour just to pay his salary before you figure building rent and so on. So you are talking about to make money more than one ticket every 30 seconds per clerk selling the tickets, I don't know any clerks that fast.

Next on the book idea, for the person who said it would not work, you don't play the lottery do you, go into the high traffic places and there are dozens of books, systems, lucky numbers and more. People are selling books by the 1000's every day.

Having the tickets available is only a strategy to bring traffic to your store where you then have other merchandise available for which your profit is higher. A fountain drink and cup might cost a quarter but produces a $1.50 or so... same with candy bars, lighters, cigarettes, etc.

The other items I mentioned related to the lottery also have higher profits associated. I've seen guys pay $2 or $3 for a little plastic thing to scratch off their tickets with!

So when someone buys 10 tickets and a coffee to take home for his wife, you've made 50 cents on the lottery and a dollar on the drink?

How many of us have ever witnessed people spending a hundred dollars at a time on tickets? I've seen it frequently.

And it is also my understanding that each establishment gets another percentage when they cash in winning tickets of any amount. Not a bad return on something that the store owner doesn't have to worry about spoiling or being undersold down the street?

Actually I used to work in a store just like that and there wasn't much for a profit on that kind of stuff. Sure you get a dollar here and a dollar there in profit but when you consider the amt you pay for the employees and the costs of the building and the bills, it actually turns out to be not that much.

Hello Ion Saliu,
Thank you for your kindly words and for your interest in my presence on this forum,but I am angry and painful. I did not receive any stimulant answer to my questions,only insults. When I have something unique in my hand and wanted to do more perfect with new ideas of my "friends", I found waves of standard knowledge that I know for decades and I heard daily in the street.
I know you from Romania. Also I know well your sites. In fact, I researched all the material about this subject on the Internet and offline since I was a teenager. I appreciate your work and your personality.
At this moment I can't explain what I have , until I'll finish my ebook and website, but I yes can tell you that it is something revolutionary and unusual with good results.
In the meantime I am ready to exchange with you different opinions.
Wishing you all the best
Magdalena

Well, you received facts and reason... all of which you rejected for some vague emotional feelings about how there MUST be another way.

You never, ever produced anything of substance when asked.

All talk. No walk.

Hello Ion Saliu,
Thank you for your kindly words and for your interest in my presence on this forum,but I am angry and painful. I did not receive any stimulant answer to my questions,only insults. When I have something unique in my hand and wanted to do more perfect with new ideas of my "friends", I found waves of standard knowledge that I know for decades and I heard daily in the street.
I know you from Romania. Also I know well your sites. In fact, I researched all the material about this subject on the Internet and offline since I was a teenager. I appreciate your work and your personality.
At this moment I can't explain what I have , until I'll finish my ebook and website, but I yes can tell you that it is something revolutionary and unusual with good results.
In the meantime I am ready to exchange with you different opinions.
Wishing you all the best
Magdalena

Magda:

Whom are you talking to? Ghosts? I ain’t here! My message was deleted!! I did NOT mean to advertise. These answers disappear in a short while anyway. What I posted was not only the site of the best resources regarding lottery as a very serious matter (high-level mathematics). My site is the ONLY place where matters of randomness such as lottery are treated with utmost seriousness (unique software also provided).

I doubt you had known me in Romania. I left two decades ago from a city with an old castle where Dracula (Vlad Tepes) was imprisoned for two years! (Hint: Hunedoara.)

There is a cosmic amount of BS in cyberspace. The only solution is tireless search. The search engines will take you there, albeit much slower than warranted. People will get to my site sooner, albeit kind of unnecessarily later.

Ion Saliu,
Thinker At-Large
Socrates, Philosophy, Science, Software, Gambling, Lotto, Lottery (http://www.saliu.com)

If you were able to purchase 1,000,000 lotery tickets for a drawing, the chances of you winning are still several million to one. Every ticket that is sold Increases the odds that you WILL NOT win, Example: There is a prize of $1000. There are 2 people who purchsed tickets. You have a 1 in 2 chance of winning.
If there are 1000 tickets sold on the same $1000 , you have a 1 in 1000 chance of winning. In escense, the more tickets sold, the less chance of winning.
Find an investment. Petrol is good... look at Exxon-Mobil profits!!

Every ticket that is sold Increases the odds that you WILL NOT win, Example: There is a prize of $1000. There are 2 people who purchsed tickets. You have a 1 in 2 chance of winning.
If there are 1000 tickets sold on the same $1000 , you have a 1 in 1000 chance of winning. In escense,,the more tickets sold, the less chance of winning.


Actually that's not accurate. In a lottery numbers are drawn. So your odds of winning are based on the number of different permutations of the numbers.

The sceneraio you described applies to a raffle not a lottery.

You are absolutely correct. The odds are even higher for a lottery!

Hello:

The best way to win, is to play 38, 5, 14, 23, 45 and 23.

excon

That's why it is called a lottery and that's how the state where required and played makes money off the people that so much think that they can actually win so its better off to invest it in something that will make you money instead of losing money. Good luck

Hi, everyone,
What is the best method to win the lottery?
Why I can't to work manually for my ticket,and is recommended a software?
And,if occasionally is logical possible to win, why not permanently? I mean,is there possible to make an income from lottery?
Please, I must many opinions to be convinced.
Thanks in advance
Magdalene


Be lucky

Magdalena disagrees: There IS another way. Just be ready to listen to another proven opinion.

Still listening, and you've still said nothing of substance.

Saying "yes there is a way" is not proof. So... at what point in this thread do you decide to offer this proof? Stories aren't proof. Emotions aren't proof. Poorly written rants that never offer any substance aren't proof. So what do you have? Nada.