In my opinion Classical music is the best and most xpressive music of all. I would like you to post here only on the basis of classical music. If you do not like classical music please leave, as there is nothing for you to do here...


This will be the basis for discussion for classical music. Please express your feelings openly about your music, piano playing, instrument playing, types of pieces, and how classical music helps flowers grow ;)

Ok, one of my favorite symphonies, are Beethovens 9th symphony and his 7th symphony. I also like Chopin, Mozart, (I'm learning Mozart's Rondo Alla Turca or turkish march right now) Chopins stuff is too hard for me right now... but I'll get there.

I don't know if you guys have heard of it, but Carmina Burana is a really nice piece of classical Music. By Carl Orff (Reminds me of an elf)

I am a lover of classical music. :)

I like Baroque -- Vivaldi, Bach, Purcell, Handel, Pachelbel.

I like Baroque -- Vivaldi, Bach, Purcell, Handel, Pachelbel.

Well now, I had no idea that you liked the music of those folks! I learn something new everyday! :D

Did you see the picture of me and my virginal in the artist's thread?

No, I didn't. Guess I'd better search for it, or my name will be Mudd.

P.S. Too many pages. Help!

No, I didn't. Guess I'd better search for it, or my name will be Mudd.

Good luck! It is buried somewhere towards about the first third of the thread. Matter of fact, I think that it's in the number 30's if I recall correctly. I plan to make that picture bigger and also add more pictures to that thread as I find them and scan them into my computer.

I thought that your last name already was Mudd :confused:

Mudd? Mudd... oh, MUDD!!

Are we related by any chance? :D

No, I didn't. Guess I'd better search for it, or my name will be Mudd.

P.S. Too many pages. Help!!

Hint: Start from the beginning of the thread.

I got to page 25 and quit because of blindness.

I went back and found it on page 30-something. Yay!

Thanks for finding it. I just found it also, on page 31. There is more of my "stuff" on page 33.

I have to go back there??

*tromp* *tromp* *tromp*

I have a teak dining room table that needs refinishing...

(Nice work, Craig! You must have a lot of patience.)

I have to go back there????????

Yes. Somehow, I'm going to get you involved in that thread. At least that's one way to get you involved. I won't be telling you when I post other things there. You're just going to have to keep on checking it! :)

I figured you had an agenda.

No one wants to read my deathless prose. That's an art-art thread.

I figured you had an agenda.

No one wants to read my deathless prose. Wanna bet? :) That's an art-art thread.

Me, and agenda! No way! ;)

Now, repeat after me, Wondergirl... That is a command! Remember what you just gave me a greenie for?.

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No. Anyone can write. GOOD writing is an art.

I honestly have nothing to post. If it's good enough, I ship it out for publishing consideration. If it's not good enough yet, I keep it for myself to tweak for future shipping out.

I could brag about what has gotten published or will be published, but no one wants to hear that. "Terrific, WG. (Ho hum.)"

In high school, we could take Music Appreciation as an elective, so I did. The teacher that year was a recent graduate of the Eastman School of Music in nearby Rochester. He did a wonderful job of taking us through the many periods of music, comparing and contrasting composer styles, and making sure we had a steady diet of music to listen to. One of his favorite things to do was assign pieces for us to listen to and "memorize". Then in class he would drop the needle (yes, boys and girls, this was in the early '60s when record players were the vogue) onto any point in the concerto or symphony or suite and expect us to identify the work and the composer, plus give a brief statement about the time and anything unique or interesting about that work.

Because of this, I felt so confident that I started a similar program for 3rd and 4th graders some years later. That high school teacher gave me a deep appreciation of and knowledge about all styles of music!

There may be someone who would post why they did not like classical music and have a good argument why, but you negated that. A shame too, as a good discussion involves all sides.

But to classical music - of all the eras, I prefer the Classical and Romantic eras. I also enjoy listening to Medieval, Renaissance, and 20th Century Classical eras. No Baroque for me. Favorite artists include Haydn, Bach, Chopin, Liszt, Stravinsky, Mendelssohn, and Hector Berlioz. I just enjoy listening.

One of my favorite contemporary persons is Peter Schickele - loved his program on Public Radio - he just did not compose but he also directed, educated and is a great parodist.

This doesent have anything to do with the topic! SPAM!

This doesent have anything to do with the topic! SPAM!

Originally Posted by Clough
Did you see the picture of me and my virginal in the artist's thread?


Originally posted by Mylittlesunshyne:
This doesent have anything to do with the topic! SPAM

Au contraire, Mylittlesunshyne!

Do you know what a virginal is?

Sorry what? I don't understand...

Oh

Mylittlesunshyne he is talking about a piano! :)

Ohh Dear I am terribly sorry! You see, I just got done taking a shower, and didn't have my glasess on, and thought he was talking about well... yeah

;).
Now that is all solved, I am off...
Nothing to contribute to the classical music theme.

See you later.

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I own one. I give lecture/demonstrations to groups on topics concerning early music, among other things.

Does Tommy the rock opera count?

Does Tommy the rock opera count?

LOL :-) careful Mag or the Thread Nazi will be after you :)

I too can play Mozart's Rondo Alla Turca, Mylittlesunshyne. Can you play the whole sonata from which is comes?

There may be someone who would post why they did not like classical music and have a good argument why, but you negated that. A shame too, as a good discussion involves all sides.

But to classical music - of all the eras, I prefer the Classical and Romantic eras. I also enjoy listening to Medieval, Renaissance, and 20th Century Classical eras. No Baroque for me. Favorite artists include Haydn, Bach, Chopin, Liszt, Stravinsky, Mendelssohn, and Hector Berlioz. I just enjoy listening.

One of my favorite contempory persons is Peter Schickele - loved his program on Public Radio - he just did not compose but he also directed, educated and is a great parodist.

I used to love to listen to Peter Schickele! I have been to a few of his performances. Always entertaining and educational.

Mylittlesunshyne, if you ever get a chance to listen to him, you should do so. I think you will enjoy him. Here is a link to his website so you can get an idea of what he is all about.
The Peter Schickele/P.D.Q. Bach Web Site (http://www.schickele.com/)

Peter Schickele has a new release out. P.D.Q. Bach CD 7. I always wished one could get copies of his radio programs, but copyrights laws prevail.

I used to love to listen to Peter Schickele! I have been to a few of his performances. Always entertaining and educational.

mylittlesunshyne, if you ever get a chance to listen to him, you should do so. I think you will enjoy him. Here is a link to his website so you can get an idea of what he is all about.
The Peter Schickele/P.D.Q. Bach Web Site (http://www.schickele.com/)


I will definitely, I like other types of music, but classical music doesent even involve words! That's why I think t's most expressive.

I too can play Mozart's Rondo Alla Turca, Mylittlesunshyne. Can you play the whole sonata from which is comes?


I don't think so, I believe only that part, you sound very gifted. I'm only late intermediate n the piano, I started playing when I was about 10 or 11, and I'm 13 now, So I think I'm makign good progress.

I will definitely, I like other types of music, but classical music doesent even involve words! that's why I think t's most expressive.

Opera, Oratorio, Mass, Cantata, Lieder... all with words. Even the odd symphony - Beethoven, Mahler, I'm not getting at you - you are 13... loads more stuff to listen to. Explore and enjoy.

Umm... This page is about classical music, I never said I didn't like other types of music. And why does it make a difference that I'm 13? I have 4 gigs of music on my computer... I've explored a lot. I'm not saying I've mastered usic or anything...

Umm...This page is about classical music, I never said I didn't like other types of music. And why does it make a difference that I'm 13? I have 4 gigs of music on my computer....I've explored a lot. I'm not saying I've mastered usic or anything...

So what do you mean by "classical " music.

Anything which falls under the category of classical music. Such as beethoven, mozart chopin bartok, bach etc...

Mylittlesunshyne, all the music that bindeweede listed IS considered classical music.

Bows deeply to Ruby - you took the words right out of my mouth.

anything which falls under the category of classical music. Such as beethoven, mozart chopin bartok, bach etc...

classical music doesent even involve words!

So how can you suggest Beethoven, Mozart, Bartok, Bach, didn't write music with words?

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I own one. I give lecture/demonstrations to groups on topics concerning early music, among other things.

So, are not the strings of the virginals plucked, as opposed to struck, as in the clavichord or piano?

Originally Posted by Clough
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I own one. I give lecture/demonstrations to groups on topics concerning early music, among other things


So, are not the strings of the virginals plucked, as opposed to struck, as in the clavichord or piano?

Yes, they are plucked.

Yes, they are plucked.

Like a harp is plucked by the user?

Like a harp is plucked by the user?

Kind of the same way.

With one's fingers?

In the harpsichord family of instruments, the wires (or strings as some might call them) are plucked by a plectrum that is attached to what is called the tongue. The tongue is subsequently attached to a jack which sits on top of the rear end of key.

Harp strings are almost invariably plucked by using the fingers.

In either of these types of instruments, there might be times when you will use other things to pluck the strings other than a plectrum or fingers. But, that is generally to produce sounds like you might find in the most modern music.

So, if I sit down to play your virginal, I will touch keys that will somehow produce music (as with a piano), or I will literally pluck strings as I would pluck harpstrings or an autoharp?

Yes, it is just like a small piano, if you like. Quieter, and sort of "twangy", but "Clough" will be able to tell you more, if necessary.

I'm a big metal fan but classical is another one of my loves. Fur Elise is one of the best classical pieces in my mind.

If we can list our favorite piece, I would say Chopin's Preludes (24) for Piano, Op. 28: no 15 in D flat major "Raindrop" as performed by Martha Argerich.

So, if I sit down to play your virginal, I will touch keys that will somehow produce music (as with a piano), or I will literally pluck strings as I would pluck harpstrings or an autoharp?

Like I had said, they are normally plucked with a plectrum that is connected to a tongue and the tongue is then connected to a jack and the jack is on the back of the key.

I'm a big metal fan but classical is another one of my loves. Fur Elise is one of the best classical pieces in my mind.

The piece "Für Elise", or as translated from the German, "For Elise" although a simple piece by Beethoven, is one of the most popular ones for the piano in music history. Too bad that most pianists don't learn the whole piece and only end up playing the first part!

Do you play the piece?

If we can list our favorite piece, I would say Chopin's Preludes (24) for Piano, Op. 28: no 15 in D flat major "Raindrop" as performed by Martha Argerich.

I have played that piece many times as well as have taught it. It is a very interesting piece in that, in it's ABA form it demonstrates so much calm emotion in the first "A" part, then it turns into a storm in the "B" section of it. Then it returns to calm and serenity in the second "A" section of the piece. I like to equate it to the calm before a storm, the storm itself and then the calm that happens after the storm. It also reminds me of someone who might suffer from manic-depressive disorder.

I know it's usually played on piano but I really can't play piano I am trying to learn it on guitar though

Don't forget that what we term "Classical" was indeed the "Pop" music of its day and many composer were as prolific as present day. With this in mind, have you listened to the film score music of Ennio Moriconi and other members of his family. Beautiful, evocative and very emotional. Music that you feel rather than hear.

The majority of the music I listen to whether metal, classic rock, classical, mabey a little rap here and there (not the biggest fan but some is ok) I have to feel. Music without emotions behind it means nothing. I believe I am a true lover of music, not so much the lyrics or what instraments but the feelings that come out from playing or listening to it. The song on a hole is what gets me, if I'm not feeling one thing in it usually I won't listen to it.

Well, this has become somewhat popular...

Anyhow, I'd like to point out that barouque pieces are often used in training in the piano, because the right hand and left hand are always moving, not the let hand playing a chord and the right hand playing, so it trains both hands, which I think is smart.

the majority of the music I listen to wether metal, classic rock, classical, mabey a little rap here and there (not the biggest fan but some is ok) I have to feel. music without emotions behind it means nothing. I believe I am a true lover of music, not so much the lyrics or what instraments but the feelings that come out from playing or listening to it. the song on a hole is what gets me, if I'm not feeling one thing in it usually I won't listen to it.


That's a very good statement! I have to also feel the music, otherwise it means nothing,

I wish I could play piano (you can get some really moving stuff from it) I'm sure if I sat down and put my mind to it I could but I really don't have the time to.

I wish I could play piano (you can get some really moving stuff from it) I'm sure if I sat down and put my mind to it I could but I realy don't have the time to.

Do you own an acoustic piano, electric piano or a keyboard?

I had a key board at one point but I'm not sure what happened to it all I have right now is my guitars. I'm hopeing to get other instruments at some point to expand on my music

I had a key board at one point but I'm not sure what happend to it all I have right now is my guitars. I'm hopeing to get other instuments at some point to expand on my music

Okay, thanks! I was just wondering. If you did have a piano or a keyboard of some kind and started a new thread under the Music topic area about something like "How Do I Play the Piano?" or "Could Someone Please Help Me to Learn a Little Music On the Piano?" then I'm sure that I could get you started online learning how to play. For real! :)

I think we should discuss Beethoven's Symphony Number 9, he spent a looong time on it. The first movement is Allegro, second is molto vivace, third is adagio e cantible, and fourth, the most famous, is PRESTO. Not like a magician =)

Symphony Nubmer 9 in D minor, is really beautiful, I think I will try to post a link to it here, so you can download it.

Wait, I don't think I can..how can I put links so that people can download stuff?

Can you tell us something concerning the events that took place in Beethoven's life while he was composing his 9th Symphony, Mylittlesunshyne?

Nice thing.. I am a hardrock guitar player but I do like classic too after rehearsingday I go home and listen to some classic to calm.. its very nice and mindeasing..

This is getting popular it's nice to see people like classical music. =)

Classical musi often makes me feel sad, well only sometimes. Because these epople who made these wonders died like any other man, and that's horrible, you would think their gods, but there just different forms of carbon lke all of us...

P.S> I've been on vacation, which is why I stopped posting for a while, but now I should be back on.

classical musi often makes me feel sad, well only sometimes. Because these epople who made these wonders died like any other man, and that's horrible, you would think their gods, but there just different forms of carbon lke all of us...

Do you read what you write? Death is natural.

I am a pianist, and you seem to like Chopin! ^_^ Great! His waltzes are quite good, if you find etudes difficult. Also, 'liebestraume no.3' by Liszt and 'Clair de Lune' by Debussy is really nice! I don't know if you like Beethoven much, but his sonata 'the tempest' is really nice, especially the third movement, which isn't too hard.. if you want to just listen, then try 'Un Sospiro' by Liszt, and 'Jeux D'eau' by Ravel! ^_^