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cal823
Oct 23, 2007, 05:57 AM
Okay... ummmm I have a dilema
I recently took 25 panadol tablets
I've been sick from it, and my mum thinks I mite have anemia or something because I've been sick quite a bit from it (she doesn't know I took the tablets)
So she's made a doctors apointement so I can get a blood test to see if I'm anemic and stuff
Is there a risk of the fact I took lots of panadol being detected in the blood test?
cal823
Oct 23, 2007, 06:17 AM
Please help... someone...
J_9
Oct 23, 2007, 06:58 AM
Bad kid. This stuff can kill you. Basically you overdosed on acetaminophen (here in the states it is known as Tylenol). Referring to one of your other posts, was this intentional?
If the doctor orders a tox screen, yes it will come back positive.
cal823
Oct 24, 2007, 02:43 PM
The panadol was intentional. And I know it can kill me, that was kind of the point.
I had the blood test yesterday, my mums a nurse and from looking at the form the test will be a full blood count testing kidneys, liver, haemoglobin. Will that show it up?
J_9
Oct 24, 2007, 03:20 PM
Cal, why are you trying to kill yourself? Times may be bad now, but they do get better. Being a teen is a terrible time of life and no one should have to go through that, but we all do in one way or another.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
To answer your question it very well may show up. I wish I knew your Mum, I would talk to her for you. You are crying out for help, and one day that cry just may be silent. This is not a good way to go.
firmbeliever
Oct 25, 2007, 01:53 AM
Cal,
J is right!
You should seek help.
From a professional counselor if possible.
EDIT::::
I was just wondering, why are you scared of the results of a blood test.
You made a choice to take medication and overdose.
Cal,
We hear your call for help,but unless those near you and who love you know about what is happening or why it is happening,they will not be able to help you.
Overdosing on something is not going to stop the hurting, even worse you might be destroying your physical self before you reach adulthood.Destroying your body is only going to make it worse,not better.
J_9
Oct 25, 2007, 05:57 AM
Overdosing on something is not going to stop the hurting, even worse you might be destroying your physical self before you reach adulthood.Destroying your body is only going to make it worse,not better.
Firmy is absolutely right here. What you took does severe liver damage if it does not kill you first. It is absorbed and excreted through your liver. So, while you may feel better now, your liver has been damaged to some extent. This can cause serious problems in the future.
I see your cry for help, and I wish I could help you more, but that's hard to do from a keyboard/monitor. You need to talk to someone, a professional preferably. If your mother is a nurse, as you say, she will have a ton of resources to get you the help you need. I have the resources, but only here in the states, so I can't be too much help to you other than being here when you need me.
So, tell me, what is so bad that you feel you need to kill yourself? What is so bad that CAN'T be fixed or changed?
cal823
Oct 25, 2007, 06:20 AM
Ummmm... its complicated and I dun want to go into much detail rite now... sorry J_9 but I'm not yet comfortable opening up to you I'm sorry :(
J_9
Oct 25, 2007, 06:24 AM
That's okay Cal, it takes time to build trust. But if I find that you don't come on here for a few days, I'll have to get a plane ticket and come beat your arse!! LOL
On the bright side... There is nothing in life that is worth taking a life. There is nothing that can't be fixed or changed. It may seem like the world is closing in, but there is always a solution. Sometimes that solution is hidden somewhere deep inside, but it is there.
I have an uncle that committed suicide 3 years ago, so I know how it can damage the family after you are gone. Suicide is a very selfish act in that while you think your pain is over, you have created a whole other level of pain for very many people. And that pain NEVER goes away.
cal823
Oct 25, 2007, 06:27 AM
Thank you J_9... maybe ill talk about this with you tomorrow...
J_9
Oct 25, 2007, 06:32 AM
Whenever you are ready to talk just know that I will listen. I may be away in class or in the hospital doing my rotations, but I will answer eventually. As I said, it takes time to build trust, and I have time.
Just so you know, I have family members who suffer clinical depression, I am specializing in the mental health field of nursing, and I, myself, have suffered situational depression, and I am a surviving member of a family member who committed suicide. So, I do have a little background in this.
So, just know that I am ready, willing, and able to talk whenever you are ready.
jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 08:47 AM
Cal, thought I would answer to this here rather than on the art thread. Most of us have been touched by someone taking their own life. It never goes away. If a person, at that point, would wait three minutes, I believe they generally would not commit the act of suicide. Life gets difficult sometimes but life is precious. Your life is precious. The two people in my life that have taken their lives were sensitive caring people who were easily hurt in life. I believe you are stronger than you know inside. Please do get some kind of help Cal! A person tends to get tunnel vision when going through a time of feeling suicidal and doesn't think about the pain their act would cause so many people. Think how many peoples lives you have touched and will touch throughout your life time with your art, your poetry. You have so much to offer life, so much to give to others. If you get to a place of darkness again, please reach out for help. We all need help from time to time! A lot of people care about you Cal.
firmbeliever
Oct 25, 2007, 12:57 PM
Cal,
Today when I checked my email, I found a forwarded message about life and how we count our age.Among other things in it I found the following and thought of you...
The tears happen. Endure, grieve, and move on. The only person, who is with us our entire life, is ourselves. Be ALIVE while you are alive.
Cherish your health : If it is good, preserve it. If it is unstable, improve it. If it is beyond what you can improve, get help.
Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:04 PM
So, what's going on in your thoughts, Cal? We are concerned for you! I hope and pray that you will find someone to talk to face-to-face about what is going on. When I was your age, I felt a number of times about just "ending it." Nearly half a century later, I'm still here, still have stresses with which to deal and hardships to bear. But, I know that I'm going to make it! You can and will, too! :)
cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 12:25 AM
I don't know... I just don't feel like I'm cut out for life... I don't really feel like I am capable of doing well of succeeding or even passing school, I feel so unworthy of the people I know and I just can't imagine how anyone could love me... and I'm not sure if all the stuff I've been through and am going to go through throughout my life and all these horrible feelings are worth it because even though I love someone and she loves me I feel that she deserves so much better than a failure like me and yer... if I can't even handle that stuff, how am I going to handle the big trials in life?
Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 12:32 AM
I'm here right now, Cal. Just noticed your post.
Hi!
Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 12:35 AM
The "Artist" post is going to take some catching up on. I'm sure that you will just chime in when you are ready. We just sort of fly on that one, you know? We go round and round and somehow, it all works out.
So, you have mentioned a number of things that are happening in your thoughts. What's the main one thing that might be of the most concern to you right now, please?
J_9
Oct 26, 2007, 12:44 AM
Oh, sweetie, these are all feelings we ALL go through in life.
I don't really feel like I am capable of doing well of succeeding or even passing school, Oh, how I know this feeling all too well. I have to get an 80% on all of my tests in school or I get kicked out of nursing school. Well, on test #2 of the semester I got a 78%. But you know what? I did the best I could do, and that is all I can do, but they still let me go on. If you study, and do your best, you can't do any better than that.
Now, tell me some good things about you. I hear you are good at poetry. Am I right? What else are you good at?
I feel so unworthy of the people I know Forget about them, do you feel unworthy to YOU? You are the one who is important. Many of these people you may never see again in your life after school. They may not remember you, you may not remember them. I know I don't remember 90% of the people I graduated with.
I love someone and she loves me Is this the same person in your other thread? The one who attempted suicide also? Long distance relationship?
Hun, I have felt like you do many times during my life, and I mean many many. I have been given the diagnosis of cancer, told my life would be over in 5 years. That was 10 years ago. You need to look deep inside yourself, and I know it's hard, believe me I do, and find the good qualities, the things you can build on.
You are in a time in your life right now that really sucks to the max, I would not wish it on anyone, but we all go through it. Every single one of us, whether we admit it or not. But you can, and will, get through this. Some of us can do it on our own, while others need help from a professional. There is no shame in that.
Now, tell me, us, something about yourself that you are proud of.
cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 12:51 AM
Uuummmmm... I guess I am an okay artist, I occasionally do an artwork that I am proud of, but its not really usually anything particularly amazing
And I do write poetry but I am not really that good at it, same as the art really, just even rarer for me to do great at
And I have been told by my mum that I am a good listener and emphatic...
And I do pretty well in tests/ exams in human bio and art, especially in human bio where I usually get between 70-80% in my tests and in art I once tied at top of the class in one test or exam or sumting with the teachers pet... main prob in school for me is homework and assignements though which drag me down and I'm at risk of failure because of those... :(
I guess that's about it... I know a lot of people who are far better than me at all those things...
jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 12:57 AM
Cal, sound like you have more going for you than a lot of adults that I know. :) Concentrate on those positives! You have a lot of people pulling for you.
J_9
Oct 26, 2007, 01:01 AM
Wow, sounds like you are good at quite a few things. Art? Is that avatar one that you did? Poetry? Did you know that Edgar Allen Poe, one of my fav artists was a depressed person?
Human Bio? Wow, let's talk. What do you like about it? Do you know all about Anatomy & Physiology?
Being a good listener and empathy is very important. Have you considered following in your mother's footsteps as a nurse? You know, where I live male nurses make twice as much as female nurses.
Gawd, I HATE homework. I spent 8 hours in the hospital today and will have about 16 hours of homework. But you know what? It will all be worth it in the end.
He!! I know a lot of people who are better than me, but I can be only as good as I can be. Just like you. Don't compare yourself to others. You have your strengths and your weaknesses. They have their strengths and their weaknesses. Where you are strong, they are weak. Where you are weak, they are strong.
Focus on what you like, what you do well, and strive to do it better. Personally I like to try to prove people wrong (maybe I should be an attorney), but I focus on what I am good at and try to improve where I am weak. But you know what? In the end, we can't all be perfect.
There is no perfect.
cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 01:12 AM
I'm not really interested in nursing or medical stuff as a career, basically because I'm a bit on the squemish side, I could never give someone a needle or anything like that, and my mums a registered nurse, and the stress she goes through!
My mum suggested I mite be a good social worker or counselor or something, but I'm not sure I would be good at it, if I can't resolve my own issues how can I help others?
In human bio I was quite good at learning stuff like the bones, organs, primates, but not as good at the microscopic level/tissues etc and I hate microscopes :s
Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:29 AM
Cal, do you feel depressed? Or, are you just confused about the directions that you need to take? Maybe you just need someone to talk to.
You might not really be depressed in the clinical sense. That is only a guess by me. No one here can really diagnose you without meeting with you and performing certain tests on you to determine what is going on psychologically with you.
Would you mind telling me something about the girl with whom you are in love, please?
jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 01:36 AM
Cal, before I head for bed, let me say one more thing. I think Craig has great insight and maybe you are just confused about the direction for your life. Perhaps you are expecting too much from yourself too fast. You have many talents and gifts. Just day by day, see which direction you feel led to go. With that I will bid you a good night! See you on the thread tomorrow! Sweet dreams! :)
Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:48 AM
Cal, before I head for bed, let me say one more thing. I think Craig has great insight and maybe you are just confused about the direction for your life. Perhaps you are expecting too much from your self too fast. You have many talents and gifts. Just day by day, see which direction you feel led to go. With that I will bid you a good night! See you on the thread tomorrow! Sweet dreams! :)
I tried to spread the love some more Jan, but could not. I just wanted to say that what you said was really sweet! :)
cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 02:01 AM
Thank you everyone for understanding and your advice and stuff, you are great people.
Cya all later going to log now
Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 02:04 AM
Are you okay for now, Cal? I would appreciate knowing that before we leave here. Thank you!
grammadidi
Oct 30, 2007, 12:02 AM
Cal, I am so sorry that you have been struggling and even sorrier that I wasn't here to try to help. It sounds like you have so much going on right now and I hope that I haven't added to those feelings by anything I have said. If so, please accept my sincere and heartfelt apology.
I would like to address this issue, but I am not sure you want it addressed any further at this time. If not, please don't read any further, okay? I'm serious!
Cal, you are a very deep and sensitive person. You feel things on a different level than most - I get a very keen sense of that. This trait can be a wonderful tool, because it helps you to be able to empathize and relate well to others, express yourself better than others in an artistic sense and gives you a tremendous amount of insight into the problems of others. Unfortunately, it can also be a weight on your shoulders for a number of other reasons. The key is to try to downplay the negatives and to focus on the wonderful things you are able to do.
Cal, I have read many posts that you have made to others. You do have the skills to become a great therapist! As you become older, you will learn that those who teach best are those who often have experienced more in life. You can draw from your experiences and problems and help others. Some of the best professor's in school are those who did NOT have the best marks - but instead, those who can reach out and touch others. Usually the reason that they are able to do this is because they are compassionate, sensitive, deep, caring, insightful people.
I remember a situation many years ago in which I sought therapy from a psychiatrist. I learned that she, too, had weekly psychiatric appointments. At first, I was shocked, but she taught me that it was because she had (and was working on) her own issues that she was able to be good at what she did.
I have felt much pain in my life, especially when my husband died. I wanted to die too. I felt that I had so little to live for. However, I had a responsibility to my then nearly 12 year old adopted daughter. She was already hurting so bad that she had been abused and neglected the first 4 years of her life by her birth parents. Then my husband's death devastated her. How could I add to her distress? So, I decided that I would wait until she had grown up, while pretending to be happy and strong in order to help her through it. Strangely enough, I became happy by doing the things that helped her to believe that I was!
I know that all the experiences that I have had in life have had a huge impact upon my ability to help others. Some people would say I have had a horrendous life filled with pain, deceit, sadness and horrible experiences. I, however, look upon my life as a gift. I refuse to let the sad/bad things in it bring me down! I struggle to find what possible good can come of my experiences - how I can turn them around to help someone else, or what it is that I am to learn from them. Maybe it would help if you attempted to do the same.
Craig (Clough) has said that he believes that people come into your life for a reason - “Birds of a feather, flock together”. I believe that. I know that you have touched me like few people have. I don't know why, or even how, I just felt that you are an important person in my life, and possibly, me in yours. I know your words have touched me at times, your art at other times. Without trying to sound real weird, I feel I have experienced your intensity from the inside out, and I know there are great things waiting for you in the future.
Jan has said on this thread that many of our lives have been touched by suicide and she's right. When I was young, I tried to kill myself because I didn't feel like I could measure up to other people's expectations of me – or my own! I also dated a young man who killed himself because he couldn't deal with my desire to not tie myself down at a young age. Later in life, my own mother attempted (and had to be brought back to life the second time) suicide when her marriage to my father broke down after 37 years. The impact of those attempts, continue to very deeply touch those of us who are closest to her, even 16 years later.
When I met my husband he used to tell me that he did not want to live to be old. However, when he found out that he was dying at 52 years of age, he was distraught! His death was a horrible and painful one, but he fought it every moment of every day for five long months. A cousin of mine killed himself the same year that my husband found out he was dying. His family have never come to terms with it, to this day. It destroys the hearts and souls of those left behind – both friends and family. I urge you not to attempt this again. There are so many resources available to you if you are feeling this way and if you need to know what or where they are, just ask!
Cal, I urge you to talk to your mom about this. I don't know how old you are, but I do know that many young people go through similar experiences to what you have described. There are many adults who struggle with it, too. There is help out there, though, if you want it. I also urge you to surround yourself with positive people, rather than negative ones which I know can be very difficult when you are in school. Once of my granddaughters went through a very bad time at school where she was being relentlessly bullied. She began to believe all the things that people said to her, and she became quite depressed and suicidal. She had very few friends, but when she did spend time with other kids, she tended to hang around with people who were also depressed and expressed deep, and often suicidal, thoughts. She attempted suicide several times before we realized what was happening.
We changed her schools, found her some great supports, taught her to recognize her strengths and helped her to be happy with herself the way she was. Two years later she has won a personal growth award at school and managed to pull off a 90% in her most difficult class! She has a few select friends who build her up because she is worthy of it. She gives to others, gets involved in charitable events that define who she is, works hard to do her best, accepts her weaknesses and fills our lives with joy.
I know this has dragged on and become a very long post and I have so much more to say… maybe another time. The main thing I want you to know is that you truly have touched my heart and soul, and my life would not be as meaningful without you in it. I know there are others here who feel the same way. Please get help for that which is hurting you so bad, continue to reach out to others and learn to appreciate yourself for who and what you are.
I care, Cal – I truly do. If there is anything that I can do to help, please let me know.
Love & hugs,
Didi
jrebel7
Oct 30, 2007, 12:33 AM
Cal, I just read Didi's post to you! I was going to go to bed earlier on tonight, but came in to check posts one more time. Maybe I needed to read what Didi wrote to you for myself also. God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform. I have never been a joiner but so glad I am a part of this wonderful tapestry that is being created by the love and understanding and caring of so many people. I too, am so glad you are now a part of my life! We are here for you as you have been for us in giving so much of yourself in your postings! Continue to share your life, your art, your poetry, your very essence with us! Don't feel you always have to show us your happy side. It is okay to share your down times and Didi's advice rules when she says to surround yourself with positive people. Didi, you are one special gal! Your openness touches many lives! I am thankful for you and so glad to see you back!
cal823
Oct 30, 2007, 04:32 AM
Everyone... especially didi... thankyou
Didi, you just surprised and awed me, you are sew special, you and others on this site have become vitally important people to me.
grammadidi
Oct 30, 2007, 08:22 AM
I think you missed that you are very special to us, too! :)
Hugs, Didi