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Marzapan741
Sep 18, 2007, 04:49 PM
A middle eastern man.

I mean..
You hear things like

"Ayo yuhn man! God was a black!"
"I oughttta know better. I been more edumacated, God is a white man!"

Now I'm saying he is middle eastern.

I mean, I have a reason for this its not liike its out of the blue.
MAry and jesus are middle eastern, why wouldn't god be?
+ Gods and religiosn was first created in the middle east an adopted by others

Then again... I think God is a little piece of everything.

Who is God anyway? There's 574867 million of them. But who is our "God". Its too mysterious.

I want opinions, what do you think?
(what god is, who he is)

P.S sorry for my bad spelling, I dotn really read what I type and I get lazy to fix it since its just forum bords/

shygrneyzs
Sep 18, 2007, 04:55 PM
I think we will be surprised to see God. He may be whatever color the person is - being seen through their eyes, not ours alone.

Marzapan741
Sep 18, 2007, 04:56 PM
True.. Yea everyone sees him diffrently.
I just wish I kenw who "god" is. He is an unnamed figure, we have no clue what he looks like. That's why I question my religion sometimes. How can I believe in something that I don't evenn know if it existed for sure.

shygrneyzs
Sep 18, 2007, 05:10 PM
God is not a literal person. God is a Spirit. One can feel the Spirit of God, one can hear Him, but I have never ever known anyone who has seen the face of God. If God did not exist, we would cease to exist. For me, it is that plain and simple. Others will disagree and that is their right.

Marzapan741
Sep 18, 2007, 05:19 PM
I can't bash the guy. No one can prove his existence or if he doesn't exist. I believe in God but sometimes I have doubts

I have heard people meeting Jesus and havign there MAry pictures of her leaking oil, or crying.

I would be scared S***less if that ever happened. I love the lord but I wouldn't want to be waken up in them middle of the night

"Renee! It is I Jesuss! :-D" *Heavnly music plays*

My grandfather claims ot be visited by Jesus. Whe nhe was I nthe hospital he said someone pushed him on the bed and he saw him in white and he said "ITs not your time to go, your a strong man, I want you to get up"
And my grandfather was fine after wards butt hen he died :[

firmbeliever
Sep 18, 2007, 05:20 PM
I agree with Shy,
Even the Prophets and messengers have not seen God like they see other humans.

And God cannot be put in a label we humans use,black or white or "middle eastern" or Asian.These are all worldly terms used by humans.

Marzapan741
Sep 18, 2007, 05:24 PM
Oh, for me I always say God as a person, but like some big guy who is 865468754 feet tall that flaots around in the sky, just chilling. I never really thought of him to be a spirit.
Yea, messengers used to hear him and report back, but wasn't that with another God? Or... same god were talking about?
Like.. a person... who ebcame a spirt :) Yea that makes sense, right?


I wish we were polytheistic. Then we can like name all our gods.
Id have the craziest names xD

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 08:59 AM
Marzapan741, why don't you just ask God to reveal himself to you, who He is and keep asking until he does? You won't know the answer to the question you ask from other people only from experiencing it personally from God himself.

firmbeliever
Sep 20, 2007, 09:02 AM
Oh, for me I always say God as a person, but like some big guy who is 865468754 feet tall that flaots around in the sky, just chilling. I never really thought of him to be a spirit.
Yea, messengers used to hear him and report back, but wasnt that with another God?? or...same god were talking about?
Like..a person.....who ebcame a spirt :) Yea that makes sense, right?


i wish we were polytheistic. Then we can like name all our gods.
Id have the craziest names xD

It has been One and the same God always, it is the humans who have been confusing and creating Gods to fit their own perceptions.

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 09:17 AM
I have reason to believe that god is noodly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastafarianism).

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 09:24 AM
I have reason to believe that god is noodly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastafarianism).


It is more than unfortunate that you have reduced God to such a level!

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 09:27 AM
It is more than unfortunate that you have reduced God to such a level!!

Didn't grab your fancy eh? How about both invisible and pink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_pink_unicorn)?

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 10:08 AM
Caffeinated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot)?

NeedKarma
Sep 20, 2007, 10:23 AM
Ramen.

http://www.venganza.org/images/wallpapers/th_WWFSMD2.jpg

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 11:13 AM
I am sure quite funny to you now but you will ultimately have to answer for your defamation in front of a living God.

NeedKarma
Sep 20, 2007, 11:15 AM
Okey dokey. I don't live in fear. It's nice.

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 11:18 AM
Okey dokey. I don't live in fear. It's nice.


I realize that and that may be the problem, your pride is in the way.

NeedKarma
Sep 20, 2007, 11:24 AM
What pride? If you knew me you wouldn't say that, but you don't know me so...

Live your life and I'll live mine. I don't go around damning you to hell so how about you lay off others as well.

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 11:30 AM
What pride? If you knew me you wouldn't say that, but you don't know me so ....

Live your life and I'll live mine. I don't go around damning you to hell so how about you lay off others as well.


I don't know YOU only what you write.

I am not the one damning you, I am only telling you what I know to be true... you have indicated you know what the Bible says and you know that is what I believe, end of point

NeedKarma
Sep 20, 2007, 11:47 AM
Yes daddy.

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 01:01 PM
Okay can we not get off topic here?

Kay, God isn't a noodle.

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 01:02 PM
Okay can we not get off topic here?

Kay, God isnt a noodle.

Why not?

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 01:19 PM
Why not?


Good luck reasoning with them as to "Why not?"

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 01:29 PM
I don't think I was reasoning, I think I was asking why God is not a noodle. I believe that the question is valid and I await an answer.

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 01:29 PM
Uhm okay a noodle is a type of food. Unless we were polytheistic and belvied in Animism that everything had a soul, then I wouldn't beg to differ
This case the God of Christianity is a spirit (or in my POV a human)
Not a food.

Okay I actually took that offensively.

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 01:49 PM
Why is God being a human less absurd to you than God being a noodle? Could you possibly be biased because you are a human?

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 01:54 PM
Haha okay the fact your "expert" in science is one reason for me not to argue with you.
Okay though out history when Noodles weren't even invented in BCE, of course Im going to believe God is a human and not food. Lol. Like that's one of the dumbest things I heard.
There's no such thing as talking food. Can you just not. I know your obviously not being serious so don't waste my time along with everyone else's with noodle nonsense

Why I am even wasting my time right now is beyond me.

Plus, how am I being basied? Im not giving anybody a one sided answer. Most importantly I'm not saying God is more superior then something else. If you want Baised go read some hitler speeches.

firmbeliever
Sep 20, 2007, 01:54 PM
God is not human!

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 01:58 PM
There's no such thing as omnipotent humans too..?

I'm being completely serious. Why should you constrain the form of a being you have never seen?

By the way, the oldest noodles ever found date from 4000 years ago. Way before CE.

I'm trying to make you THINK, that's all.

Why should the fact that I'm "expert" in science mean you should not argue with me? (although I don't agree that we're arguing)

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 02:02 PM
Sorry what's omnipotent?
Well of course its something I never seen, but what makes you think he is a Noodle. Out of all things in this world.

Well here is why. I dotn follow animism.
Haha.
Well Science and Religion always battled.
Everyone has there own side to the story.
I'm 50/50

Reasons I put the " " around expert is because Everyone here can say there an expert but unless they have someone to prove it then its valid for me haha

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 02:09 PM
There's no such thing as omnipotent humans too... ??

I'm being completely serious. Why should you constrain the form of a being you have never seen?

By the way, the oldest noodles ever found date from 4000 years ago. way before CE.

I'm trying to make you THINK, that's all.

Why should the fact that i'm "expert" in science mean you should not argue with me? (although I don't agree that we're arguing)


You said it... God is omnipotent, omipresent, omniscient; He is an entity not human as we know humans to be...

You my friend, in my opinion, are an "over analyzer" some things can and should be thought through other things are best left on faith or belief

firmbeliever
Sep 20, 2007, 02:09 PM
"Comments on this post
xAjikanx agrees: LOL sorry! I know. To me he is a spirit but I see hi mas a human also. Liek a Human who died and is now a spirit. Dotn ask I am very odd hahaha. But yes I know he isnt a human :P"

Well,
I do not believe He was a human previously either... :)

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 02:13 PM
I have been made "expert" on this site by the admins, it was ultimately their decision. I don't think that I am an expert on anything but I do know where to find information and I do have an amount of understanding and interest in most of science.

Omnipotent means "all powerful".

My point is not that God is a noodle, It's that God could be anything and it is not sensible to rule out that God is a noodle.

Science and religion have not always battled. Fascination with what is up in the heavens has grown into a whole section of science, astronomy. There's nothing in science which argues against the existence of a God.

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 02:13 PM
Aw haha. I don't know why, I just tell me self he was one :p but then like died and was like "Hey im gonna start life =D"

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 02:15 PM
I have been made "expert" on this site by the admins, it was ultimately their decision. I don't think that I am an expert on anything but I do know where to find information and I do have an amount of understanding and interest in most of science.

omnipotent means "all powerful".

My point is not that God is a noodle, It's that God could be anything and it is not sensible to rule out that God is a noodle.

Science and religion have not always battled. Fascination with what is up in the heavens has grown into a whole section of science, astronomy. There's nothing in science which argues against the existence of a God.

Okay, exactly, I can sit here get all my answers off Google and to let people think I'm an expert in something, I'm not saying oyu don't know your stuff but Im saying. I don't base people on how they are judged by a site.

Ty,
Okay but when dealgn with Christianity God, I don't see where Noodle comes through.

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 02:19 PM
I have a question for you Ajikan, why do you not believe in Thor, or Zeus, or Osiris?

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 02:32 PM
There Greek Myths. There's gods as well but they aren't gods that I worship and pray to.

What do they have to do with anything?

mountain_man
Sep 20, 2007, 02:35 PM
I have a question for you Ajikan, why do you not believe in Thor, or Zeus, or Osiris?


Capuchin, what do you believe in? ANything and everything depending on the day or the latest theory or fad or do you truly believe in something through and through?

Marzapan741
Sep 20, 2007, 02:49 PM
T o savage:
When did I say one was more true then the other? Greek Myth is soemthing I don't follow.

And this got WAY of topic.
Hah

Capuchin
Sep 20, 2007, 11:32 PM
Capuchin, what do you believe in? ANything and everything depending on the day or the latest theory or fad or do you truly believe in something through and through?

I believe in being a decent person, a better than decent friend, and helping those I love.

What are these fads you allude to? I believe in facts as revealed through observation.

andrewyha
Sep 21, 2007, 12:48 AM
Capuchin, you sound like an existentialist. Existentialism is where man becomes the judge and jury of what is right or wrong. Also what facts are you referring to?

Capuchin
Sep 21, 2007, 12:54 AM
A fact is something that can be observed to be true, like "a ball falls when you drop it" and "my hair is pretty messy this morning" or "glass is transparent".

andrewyha
Sep 21, 2007, 01:06 AM
God Himself is not observable, being a Spirit, but His actions are observable by us as physical beings. We have as many facts about God as we do about the wind.

Capuchin
Sep 21, 2007, 04:01 AM
God Himself is not observable, being a Spirit, but His actions are observable by us as physical beings. We have as many facts about God as we do about the wind.
Please carry on.

Marily
Sep 21, 2007, 06:12 AM
Try searching for him with all your heart :)

andrewyha
Sep 21, 2007, 08:06 AM
To elaborate a little more, God's actions are observable because of the law of cause and effect. The universe is one big effect so we must look for one big cause, God. His creation is proof for His being ,even as a painting is proof for a painter, or a building is proof for a builder.

Capuchin
Sep 21, 2007, 09:21 AM
What proof do you have the universe is an effect?
What caused God?

jillianleab
Sep 21, 2007, 10:22 AM
You said it...God is omnipotent, omipresent, omniscient; He is an entity not human as we know humans to be...

You my friend, in my opinion, are an "over analyzer" some things can and should be thought through other things are best left on faith or belief

From a book I'm reading:

"... omnipotence, omniscience, goodness, creativity of design, to say nothing of such human attributes as listening to prayers, forgiving sins and reading innermost thoughts. Incidentally, it has not escaped the notice of logicians that omniscience and omnipotence are mutually incompatible. If god is omniscient, he must already know how he is going to intervene to change the course of history using his omnipotence. But that means he can't change his mind about his intervention, which means he's not omnipotent. Karen Owen has captured this witty little paradox in equally engaging verse:

Can an omniscient god, who
Knows the future, find
The omnipotence to
Change his future mind?"

And you say "over analyzer like it's a BAD thing to think beyond what is handed to you. Huh?

Marzapan741
Sep 21, 2007, 01:54 PM
>.< Seriosuly this got way off topic. If I knew how to shut this down I would.
I only asked about what you think God is (human/spirit/nationality) is if he had one, well could have one now its going onto the future and what caused god.

I feel like 7474 people stole my board
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Either that or I'm reading everythign wrong.

firmbeliever
Sep 21, 2007, 02:07 PM
>.< Seriosuly this got way off topic. If I knew how to shut this down I would.
I only asked about what you think God is (human/spirit/nationality) is if he had one, well could have one now its going onto the future and what caused god.

I feel like 7474 peopel stole my board
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either that or im reading everythign wrong.

Just a word of advise (if you like it-take it or not like it-leave it:))

Sometimes it is good to read the different responses and make your own opinion based on it
Or you could just read the responses and choose the ones you think is appropriate and add them to your knowledge base for later reference.

Or ignore those you do not think is needed, and go along with those you want to respond to and continue discussing.

It is your question,but personally I think it is rather interesting to read different views,I do that all the time and most of the time people express views the opposite of mine(and their views do not make much difference to my views regarding faith,but other information I have found to be quite useful at times).

That is the best part of a public forum, you get to hear all different views... it is fun if you do not take all of them too seriously:p

Marzapan741
Sep 21, 2007, 03:31 PM
Oh no its not that I don't like reading different views, its just I'm majorly confused at what's going on lol

firmbeliever
Sep 21, 2007, 08:45 PM
Oh no its not that i dont liek reading diffrent views, its just im majorly confused at whats going on lol

That's good to know.

So ask each member about their post for an explanation, I am sure they will be glad to help.

Or if the confusion is regarding something else, ask about it, you never know who might have a solution for your confusion.. :)

Marzapan741
Sep 21, 2007, 09:18 PM
Haha thank you :)

Who knew this topic would have gotten so many responses

firmbeliever
Sep 21, 2007, 09:20 PM
Questions about spiritual beliefs always goes a long way... :)

Marzapan741
Sep 21, 2007, 09:28 PM
Haha this is true.
XD

MoonlitWaves
Sep 21, 2007, 09:42 PM
Who is God? God is light (good), God is your creator and Father. The one and ONLY true living God. If we're talking looks then we will never know until we see him. In John 4:24 Jesus states that God is a spirit therefore we must worship him in spirit. That means God is not human. In 1 John 4:12 John states that no man has seen God. I don't know this, but I wouldn't think God has the sexual anatomy of a man though He is the Father. But I don't believe it's about being male or female. He is thought of as the Father because of the.. what's the word.. empasis/status he put on males. For example, God created man to be dominate. Since He has dominion over all things then He wouldn't be veiwed as the mother, would he? Maybe it's a way for our minds to comprehend Him. The act of sex means nothing to Him and will mean nothing in Heaven so I don't think He has a penis. I believe that with creating man and woman He knew He wanted them to multiply so He created the anatomy to get the job done. It is obvious that spirits have the essence of a human form because we were created in His own image. Will we have sexual anatomy in Heaven? I don't think so, but I don't know. Truthfully, it isn't important. Not to me anyway. Getting to Heaven is what is important to me. I trust God to take care of the rest. I don't know where.. I would have to look it up, but I believe it states that His spirit emits light so bright that man cannot look upon Him, not in those specific words either, but you get the drift. I suppose that is why He is never seen by human eyes throughout the Bible, before, during and after. But when we get to Heaven we will be made perfect and I do believe we will therefore be able to behold Him. But don't forget Jesus... Jesus is God in the flesh. There you have it... the only way I can explain who God is.

Marzapan741
Sep 22, 2007, 08:44 AM
Who is God? God is light (good), God is your creator and Father. The one and ONLY true living God. If we're talking looks then we will never know until we see him. In John 4:24 Jesus states that God is a spirit therefore we must worship him in spirit. That means God is not human. In 1 John 4:12 John states that no man has seen God. I don't know this, but I wouldn't think God has the sexual anatomy of a man though He is the Father. But I don't believe it's about being male or female. He is thought of as the Father because of the..what's the word..empasis/status he put on males. For example, God created man to be dominate. Since He has dominion over all things then He wouldn't be veiwed as the mother, would he? Maybe it's a way for our minds to comprehend Him. The act of sex means nothing to Him and will mean nothing in Heaven so I don't think He has a penis. I believe that with creating man and woman He knew He wanted them to multiply so He created the anatomy to get the job done. It is obvious that spirits have the essence of a human form because we were created in His own image. Will we have sexual anatomy in Heaven? I don't think so, but I don't know. Truthfully, it isn't important. Not to me anyway. Getting to Heaven is what is important to me. I trust God to take care of the rest. I don't know where..I would have to look it up, but I believe it states that His spirit emits light so bright that man cannot look upon Him, not in those specific words either, but you get the drift. I suppose that is why He is never seen by human eyes throughout the Bible, before, during and after. But when we get to Heaven we will be made perfect and I do believe we will therefore be able to behold Him. But don't forget Jesus... Jesus is God in the flesh. There you have it... the only way I can explain who God is.

Even though these are all opinions, this has got to be one of the best answers I've read.

Thank you for sharing and thank you for everyone else who replied, your information was very intresting as well.

Thanks everyone :)