Hi,
I have a step-daughter, age 19 who's got HPV (aka genital warts).
She wants to be able to take baths with my son, who's only 7.

I say absolutely not, it's not worth the risk of his catching HPV.

My hubby says I'm just being hateful against his daughter.

Nothing I've read on the web deals with anything like this, unfortunately. Any professional opinions out there? I don't care to hear about the "Immorality" of a 19 year old young woman bathing with a 7 year old boy, that's not the issue here.

Thank you
GreyRaven

*Edit* Religious Freaks will be ignored.

Tell me exactly why a 19 year old girl would want to take a bath with a 7 year old boy?

NO FREAKING WAY!!

**EDIT** STD or not, she is WAY too old to be taking a bath with a young child. This borders on child abuse and perversion

I don't care to hear about the "Immorality" of a 19 year old young woman bathing with a 7 year old boy, that's not the issue here.

Thank you
GreyRaven

Unfortunately it IS the issue here!!

If this is allowed and the 7 year old brings it up at school she can be arrested, and you can be charged as well.

j9 could she be contagious right before an outbreak? *edit* I was thinking of herpes, it isn't the same thing is it?

Yes, she could. One does not need an outbreak to be contagious.

But the issue at hand is a 19 year old GIRL wanting to take a bath with a 7 year old BOY!!

All parties save the 7 year old boy, could get in some major trouble if this is allowed.

j9 could she be contagious right before an outbreak?

Yes, my point exactly. How would she know if she's contagious?

My son caught chicken-pox at a community play center and then gave my hubby shingles before he showed symptoms of Chicken Pox. To this day, hubby thinks he gave our son the chicken pox (eyeroll).

GreyRaven

Genital warts are very contaigous and most likely will get them from that close of contact.

But honest to god, the warts are not the issue, the morality of a 7 year old boy bathing with a 19 year old girl, is the biggest issue, If parents were allowing this, CPS could easily take that 7 year old out of the house for the child's own protection.

If the mom is having an issue only because of the warts, there is more serious issues to deal with.

Also bushg, genital warts don't "breakout" like other transferred STD, they are always there and they spread very easy, and they can move to other areas, under arms, under chin.

This coming from a woman who thinks that women = human toilets?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/adult-sexuality/woman-human-toilet-61563.html#post282131

My question is why you would even think that this is appropriate.

genital warts don't "breakout" like other transfered STD,

Sorry Chuck, I have to disagree with you again. Genital Warts, (herpes), do break out on occasion. They are always there, but breakouts occur frequently unless medicated.

OMG the stupidity here is so sad, why do I bother?

Sometimes people have difficult issues. A place like this is where one can discuss them, not be abused for having a shockingly unpleasant thing happen to them/idea occur to them. You obviously think differently.

GR

Lady I do not profess religion of any type. But I will say that I would not let any 19 year old sister bath with my 7 year old son. I wouldn't care what my husband or anyone else says it is not right. I think most people feel this way.

greyraven disagrees: I'm not interested in your take on morality, only on the medical science of the situation

I am not going to give you a medical answer because this is morally wrong!! I refuse to put myself in the place of the sexual predator such as your step-daughter.

She has some major freaking issues if she wants to take a bath with a 7 year old. Time for some counseling.

Another peanut-gallery heckler

Hell, I won't even bathe with my 5 year old son and I am his MOTHER, for crying out loud.

Apparently this so called step-sister has some sexual issues that need to be dealt with or you will find CPS at your door taking your son away from you.

HMM, we may think differently, but I think we are the ones thinking CLEARLY here.

OMG the stupidity here is so sad, why do I bother?

Sometimes people have difficult issues. A place like this is where one can discuss them, not be abused for having a shockingly unpleasant thing happen to them/idea occur to them. You obviously think differently.

GR
Difficult issues!? You should be reported to the authorities! If the age difference is no issue to you, YOU need help, too.

I don't know about the problem of the boy catching anything from the girl but I do know that if he does bath with her and the kids at school find out they will think he is the luckiest kid in the whole school system. And they will be so envious of him they will cry.

j9, bushg, and fr_chuck, good job. I think you answered very well. There is some deep lying issues here that need to be addressed. No I am not a head shrink, but I have had some child behavior classes that tell of such situations. Most of the time the situations occur from someone that was done that way when they were younger. Not only is this a moral issue, but a legal issue.

OMG the stupidity here is so sad, why do I bother?

Of course, you could go away... Never Never Land is looking for it's sign...

Genital Warts (http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/infections/std/genital_warts.html)

It is a virus, and can come back even if treated but it is not the same as herpes ( unless medically it is classified as it, but I have never seen it referred to as it)

I just got my 5 year old out of the bath about a half an hour ago and I am now so freaking sick to my stomach that any adult would have the audacity to ask such a ludicrous question. It is beyond me!!

This is just sick, SICK, SICK!!!!!

OMG the stupidity here is so sad, why do I bother?

Oh, no, you didn't!!

The stupidity HERE!! Woman, you are stupid to even entertain the idea that this is appropriate!!

Wow, This place is such a joke!

I was really hoping for some intelligent, thoughtful responses, whether they agreed with persons of differing ages/genders bathing innocently together or not, but there's been nothing but peanut-gallery style heckling from arrogant perverts with dirty minds. At least letmetellu has a sense of humor about being a prick.

You are all so quick to throw *me* in jail who's trying to protect my kid, and get some support in doing so.

Yeah. Throw me in jail. Leave my son with his father and the step-daughter.
Great work, guys...

*sigh*
GR

Just pray for the young child, that the boy will be removed from this situation before he is tramatized for life, grows up and wants to take baths with young children.

He is 7 years old? I can remember a lot from when I was 7. Im not sure what age it was but I showered with my sister a couple times when I was younger, she would have been 12 or something and I would have probably been 6 or something and I think it wrong.

I can't remember what I thought about it then, but I do not like to talk about it now. My sister isn't weird at all, I'm sure my mom was busy or something as she usually is, but I wish it never happened.

And if my sister would have had a STD my life would be really bad. Wouldn't you hate being a 7year old with a STD? I don't think it worth it at all.

Yes, child abuse is not being or not being religious, I would believe the atheist and others on here would still agree this is wrong in just too many levels,

But you got your answer, yes they are contaigous and yes it is a high risk of transfer at any time merely from skin to skin contact.

I'm not a doctor. I'm a librarian and a professional counselor.

The medical literature says that HPV (genital warts) are the most contagious STD there is. It does not have visible symptoms to show when there's an outbreak, so assume contagion is possible 24/7.

HPV can be passed from an infected person to an uninfected person through skin-to-skin contact and even from using towels, washcloths, etc. that have been used by a person who has warts.

The risk of infection is extremely high. Your son should not engage in any intimate contact (showers, baths, saunas, hot tubs, getting dressed or undressed with/by, etc.) with your step-daughter.

Genital warts, also known as venereal warts, or condylomata acuminata, are caused by the human papilloma virus (HPV). More than 100 types of HPV are known to exist. Low risk types (HPV 1, 2, and 3) cause warts on the hands, feet, and other parts of the body. Types (6 and 11) can cause warts on the genitals or anus (genital warts), and other types (HPV 16 and 18) can cause cancer of the cervix, external genitalia, and anus. The HPV types that cause genital warts only rarely cause cancer. Genital warts are usually sexually transmitted and all partners should be checked thoroughly. They can also be seen in infants who have been delivered vaginally to mothers with HPV in their genital tracts; therefore, alternate methods of delivery should be considered.

Only a small percentage of people infected with HPV will develop genital warts. Many people are "carriers" of HPV who may never develop warts, but may still be able to pass HPV to their sexual partners. The incubation period from contracting HPV until the development of warts may be several months; although, some people may not develop warts for years after contact with HPV. People who have lower immunity due to cancer, AIDS, organ transplantation, immune suppressive medications, or certain other medications are more susceptible.

** warning photos not for everyone
http://www.aad.org/public/Publications/pamphlets/GenitalWarts.htm

DermAtlas: Dermatology Image Atlas with 9712 Dermatology Images (http://dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/) type in genital warts. After looking at this you may want to move out with your son. I would be damned if I would put my son at risk for this awful disease.

My question is why you would even think that this is appropriate.
Truly the most important question.
Who would think that condoning this atrocity would be appropriate??
Did your parents tell you this is OK?

Thoughtful and intelligent non-hysterical answer, thank you!

This person has to know that this is wrong. This thread seems "trollish" to me...

You see, my argument comes in where she even thinks this is appropriate, or has to question it. This is NOT appropriate, STD or not!!

This person has to know that this is wrong. This thread seems "trollish" to me...

Did you read the women = toilet thread? I am really sickened by this thread. TOTALLY and completely!!

I think I'll tuck little J in bed tonight and say a special prayer that he never comes across people like this.

Wow, This place is such a joke!!
You're the only attempt at a joke. Jokes aren't supposed to be sick. You're sick.
Some people shouldn't be allowed to breed.

You have to bring intelligent thoughtful reason to the forum to get the same in return.

You have the option to go play in the street.

Did you read the women = toilet thread? I am really sickened by this thread. TOTALLY and completely!!!

I think I'll tuck little J in bed tonight and say a special prayer that he never comes across people like this.

That is sick!

People like this give everyone all the more reason to never take an eye off their kids.

You see, my argument comes in where she even thinks this is appropriate, or has to question it. This is NOT appropriate, STD or not!!!
STD's or STI's aren't the greater issue. The total lack of intellect that would allow this form of abstract reason, makes me think this grey-thing is hopelessly ill. Euthanasia?

OMG the stupidity here is so sad, why do I bother?

Sometimes people have difficult issues. A place like this is where one can discuss them, not be abused for having a shockingly unpleasant thing happen to them/idea occur to them. You obviously think differently.

GR

First, may I call your attention to the guidelines for using the comments feature found here:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/feedback/using-comments-feature-24951.html

Everything here (except maybe the facts about STD transmittal) has been opinion. While you may disagree with the opinions here, people are entitled to them.

Second, you may not fully understand how sites like this work. Once you post anything, you open that post up to any valid comments from anyone who chooses to comment. If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. You knew that your post was going to generate controversy.

Finally, I go along with the others. Yes this site is a place for where one can discuss difficult issues. But when one's question involves such a morally corrupt and reprehensible act as having a 19 yr old take a bath with a 7 yr old (doesn't even matter what sex or relations on either side), then people can and will speak out against it. That you would only care about the physical health issues and not the moral issues (and it has nothing to do with religion or god, since I believe in neither) does not speak well for you. That your husband would be in favor of this raises more issues about his maturity and sense. And that the step-daughter even wants to do this is truly frightening for the welfare of your son and for her mental and moral capacity.

So, rail on about our stupidity. If this be stupidity then I gladly plead guilty.

To those of you who've posted helpful medical information, thank you.

To the hysterics: Please move to the middle east with the rest of your kind.

GR

To the hysterics: Please move to the middle east with the rest of your kind.

GR

EXCUSE ME!!

I am not a hysteric, but a RESPONSIBLE parent. Do you even know the definition of responsibility is?

I didn't think so!!

**cough cough**

Stop feeding the troll.

**cough cough**

That is sick!

People like this give everyone all the more reason to never take an eye off of their kids.
The disgusting aspect is she's hiding this just like Couey! (Let's keep it in the trailer)
It's only a matter of time. I hope the kid says something at school (if he's allowed out of sick-bird's sight)
And it's her own!!

To those of you who've posted helpful medical information, thank you.

To the hysterics: Please move to the middle east with the rest of your kind.

GR

The disturbing part is that you are not "hysterical" that your stepdaughter would want to do this. To even ask this question makes me think that you were actually thinking of letting this go on.

This is disgusting, perverse, and immoral. I hope for your son's sake you do not allow this to happen. Things like this can either scar kids, or make them grow up to be perverts as well.

To those of you who've posted helpful medical information, thank you.

To the hysterics: Please move to the middle east with the rest of your kind.

GR
Your village is calling.

And Dan thinks this is a good idea ?

If you really want to see hysteria go into any police department, children's medical center or school and tell them exactly what you have told us. Please post back with the results.

Oh, no, you didn't!!!

The stupidity HERE!!!! Woman, you are stupid to even entertain the idea that this is appropriate!!!
Agggghhhhhh, I can't rate this answer and agreeeeee with it , and I so want to.

If you really want to see hysteria go into any police department, childrens medical center or school and tell them exactly what you have told us. Please post back with the results.
Hysteria, that is an under statement, and that is a pretty powerful word.

It just sickens me to think that people even have to question this. In this day in age with sexual predators, etc.

Hell, my 5 year old won't even let me in the bathroom when he is taking a bath except to wash him then I have to "close" my eyes. LOL

If this is not a troll, I am truly shaken up by the morals of our society today.

I really do hope that this was a troll and that this is not going on, but I feel the opposite is true.

It just sickens me to think that people even have to question this. In this day in age with sexual predators, etc.

Hell, my 5 year old won't even let me in the bathroom when he is taking a bath except to wash him then I have to "close" my eyes. LOL

If this is not a troll, I am truly shaken up by the morals of our society today.

I really do hope that this was a troll and that this is not going on, but I feel the opposite is true.

Got to spread the rep, but I truly hope it is a troll too.

With all of the sexual predators in this day and age, I don't even want to send my boys to school. I'd rather homeschool them, then at least I'd know they are safe.

I used to take baths with my three year old brother when I was 7.
I think that's the only time its accseptable.

I don't understand why she wants to have bath with him, can she not bathe herself? Does she need company? Would she be wearing a swim suit? I can understand that -

My older cousin Caroline ( who was 18- 19) would wear a swim suit and sometimes step into the tub with me when she was giving me a bath when I was 8ish and help me wash my hair, If you are talking about a situation like this then that's much more understandable, well at least to me.

Its also not like a mother having a bath with her small child which I use to do sometimes until I was 5ish, if my mum was in the bath sometimes I would jump in but its very different than a 19 year old step sister. ( in my family this is not odd at all , if it is do enlighten me )

Anyway
On to the genital warts , no-no-no.
Keep safe.
Don't worry what your husband says or his daughter.
Its your son and his health.
Its not necessary she has a bath with him, if it isn't like the situations I said above it is also inappropriate she has a bath with him.

There are other ways to bond with him if it isn't in any way perverted but just considered some sort of fun activity in your house hold, how about they do finger painting or lego?

Wow, This place is such a joke!!

I was really hoping for some intelligent, thoughtful responses, whether they agreed with persons of differing ages/genders bathing innocently together or not, but there's been nothing but peanut-gallery style heckling from arrogant perverts with dirty minds. At least letmetellu has a sense of humor about being a prick.

You are all so quick to throw *me* in jail who's trying to protect my kid, and get some support in doing so.

Yeah. Throw me in jail. Leave my son with his father and the step-daughter.
Great work, guys...

*sigh*
GR
Not exactly sure that your step daughter or your son would be left there if you were in jail. You and your step daughter may even be roomies.

Wow, This place is such a joke!!

I was really hoping for some intelligent, thoughtful responses, whether they agreed with persons of differing ages/genders bathing innocently together or not, but there's been nothing but peanut-gallery style heckling from arrogant perverts with dirty minds. At least letmetellu has a sense of humor about being a prick.

You are all so quick to throw *me* in jail who's trying to protect my kid, and get some support in doing so.

Yeah. Throw me in jail. Leave my son with his father and the step-daughter.
Great work, guys...

*sigh*
GR

Yes I was trying to show a little humor because I could not think of anything to say that could be any kind of an answer to your idea that a 19 year old girl should be bathing with your son. You mentioned somewhere in the past that no one had been worried about the situation and all wanted to put you in jail, well I am more worried about your son living with you than I am him bathing with a 19 year old step sister.
If it was your 7 year old daughter bathing with your 19 year old stepson would have the same opinion about that as you have now.

You want a simple answer for this grey? NO. Do NOT allow this to happen.

Obviously, for many reasons.

p.s. PUBLIC forum = you can't control people's responses and only tell them what you want to hear or not hear. Consider that before you post something this outrageous again.

Oh no, no, no...

You say that you don't want to here lectures on the imorality of this thread, well are you suggesting that if this 19 year old WOMAN didn't not have genital warts you would allow your 7 year old son to take a bath with his step-sister? I couldn't imagine. People go to jail for these kinds of activities. Not saying that your step-daughter would endanger your son, but it defiantely endangers his well-being. At 7 years old they remember things and they defiantely don't need to be exposed to bathing with a grown woman. You know think about this, if you had read a thread that stated my 19 year old step-son is bathing with my 7 year old daughter what would you think? There is no difference! A grown woman is a grown woman and a grown man is a grown man! A CHILD IS A CHILD! You are taking a normal child hood away from him, things like this will undoubtfully force him to grow up early and be curious about far more than his age requires him to be. NOT COOL! Obviously she's not a very responsible person to begin with if she has obtained genital warts, there's unsafe sex going on somewhere, why would you allow your son to be part of something so... disturbing, try not to flatter yourself by "dogging" everyone's opinion, but ma'am if EVERYONE is saying the same thing doesn't that make you wonder if you aren't seeing the big picture and if maybe you should think hard about the things you are allowing your child to be influenced by?? :(