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serena6878
Jul 25, 2007, 11:30 PM
In this world, there are three things we should never believe, namely, men's promises, men's emotion, and men's excuses. If he gives you some life-long promise, that will be because he is not confident on your relationship; if he says to you that you are the woman he loves most in his life, that will represent that he has said the same thing to others; if he breaks his promises and gives you several excuses for that, please don't believe him. Men are good at making up reasons, and all the reason could be summarized to only excuses.

Men might be very sincere when promising, but would be also serious when leaving. When he no longer loves you, he has changed his mind totally. But he would just think that all that you once attracted him has disappeared.

Never try to win love from a person who is above the age of 35 , never married before, and so far hasn't had a fixed girlfriend. Such men might either lack love ability or have something wrong with their hearts. If you insist love such men, you would become the person who is hurt finally.

If you are interested in a man, just remember never show off your intelligence in front of him. If he is a stupid man, he would not understand your wisdom. And if he is a wise man, he himself is clever enough, so he is tired of clever women. But if you still want to let him know you are clever, please don't forget to say to him that,"You are so clever, you must already know that." Words are like that.

If you want to know whether a man loves you or not, just see whether he wants to let you involve into his world. He might introduce you to his family and friends. If he doesn't introduce you to his parents, that means he doesn't love you at all. Don't be lied. But if you has been lied, just think you are drunk in the past.

When a man meets woman, there is just one idea in a man's heart, namely, to sleep with her.

If you think some man is nice, and think you love him, please now pinch your leg. If you could not feel pains, congratulations! You are still dreaming. Please wake up.

Men always treat women well just in the beginning and dump them in the end. If you are a man who is thinking to break up a woman now, please think out a good excuse.

Don't be content at his chasing after you for long time. You had better figure out how often he calls you and visits you. If he does so every other week, please be careful! He doesn't do those for loving you, but for achieving his own dreams.

If he is not nice to you, break up with him absolutely. But please do that in a gentle manners because there would be different between gently breaking up and angrily breaking up. The former is due to his fault, but the latter is due to you personality clash.

Please let him feel sorry more. They don't know how to cherish what they have and just believe the valuable is what they could not have. Let him lose you and let him regret.

Don't be moved by his feeling of guilty. According to psychology view, when he feels guilty, he has repulsed you in his unconsciousness.

Every woman should be lied by a man once or twice. If more than them, she is not a woman, but a female pig.

When a man says "I like you", that doesn't mean he loves you; when a man says "I love you", that doesn't mean he will marry you; when a man marries you, that doesn't mean he would be nice to you forever; when a man says he would be nice to you forever, he is lying. All that means he is lonely and weary.

Men are such animals whose appearances are like peacock, whose temper are like bulls, and whose actions are like some horses.

Skell
Jul 25, 2007, 11:41 PM
I only skimmed your post after I was insulted the first two times serena. Afer that I knew it wasn't worth paying too much more attention to.

Your generalization of all men is simply wrong.

We are not all like the picture you paint above.

Im sorry you feel this way. Your poor boyfriend.

Ulysses
Jul 26, 2007, 02:34 AM
'Women's only desire is to find someone to submit to' (c) F.Nietzsche
Well, this statement backed up with a solid hardhead's name, does it make sense?
I guess, humans aren't that simple as you describe it. Peace ))

SAB123
Jul 26, 2007, 05:39 AM
NOT all men are are like that. MY ex fiancé broke up with me 6 F'in times. And I loved her with all my heart. I'm sorry you were treated like crap. But if you knew the h*ll I went threw maybe you would change your opinion. I feel sorry for you.

talaniman
Jul 26, 2007, 06:39 AM
I hope you feel better having letting all that out. Great rant.

Haplo
Jul 26, 2007, 06:42 AM
Statistically women file for divorce more than men. :)

Great rant, but pretty insulting too.

LearningAsIGo
Jul 26, 2007, 06:44 AM
I'm sorry you feel that way.

NeedKarma
Jul 26, 2007, 06:47 AM
Wow, you must pick some "interesting" men to date.

cal823
Jul 26, 2007, 06:49 AM
I also just skimmed it.
Most guys I know are good people.

nicespringgirl
Jul 26, 2007, 06:50 AM
When women are depressed, they eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking. Men and women are different in many ways, there is no need to complain about it all the time. Be wise and be cautious on whom you will meet next time, just think like most men ratioanlly(not all are rational,LOL), take things easy and learn from the past experience, don't find a man that makes you cry any more.
Good luck.:)

cal823
Jul 26, 2007, 06:51 AM
I was depressed for a long time. No UN sanctions were made against me. :) (this time)
Men hurt more than you think lol, we just hide things more

nicespringgirl
Jul 26, 2007, 06:58 AM
WOmen need to learn to hide their emotion sometimes too. Think more rationally! Men and women need to learn from each other. :)

cal823
Jul 26, 2007, 07:00 AM
My very best friends in the world are female.
They have done a lot more for me than my male friends
Though with my male friends, they are constant and steady, no falling outs, no fights, no moods, etc. with the chicks, its very complicated and the friendship is very difficult at times, but its worth it.

nicespringgirl
Jul 26, 2007, 07:05 AM
my very best friends in the world are female.
they have done alot more for me than my male friends
tho with my male friends, they are constant and steady, no falling outs, no fights, no moods, etc. with the chicks, its very complicated and the friendship is very difficult at times, but its worth it.
LOL, my best friends have always been females. Also very steady,no falling outs, no fights, no moods. Coz I try to think like a guy(in a good way e.g.rational) as also being sweet.:) I really think I learned a lot good things from men(my classmates),-I studied engineering:p . The world itself, is all about learning from each other:)

nicespringgirl
Jul 26, 2007, 07:07 AM
The only thing is that I am too rational and "powerful", that intimidates guys sometimes. But I still like to be that way:D
P.S. I know I don't look like that,LOL, but yea, that surprises men:D

paunash
Jul 26, 2007, 07:21 AM
You feel this way, because you looked only to be loved, but didn't love herself. Forget about promises, don't ask and don't listen. Just love. You will see how everybody fly to you like butterflies toward light. Just remember Beatles: All you need is love

nicespringgirl
Jul 26, 2007, 07:24 AM
For women, love means being loved.:P

nicespringgirl
Jul 26, 2007, 07:33 AM
paunash disagrees: whoul you like to give anything to one who only takes and don't give?

I was laughing at this, I don't agree at this at all.

LOL, should have made clear about it, that it's wrong for women to think that way, but I don't want to be too frank on that part. U understand me now?

Kimberly66
Jul 26, 2007, 07:46 AM
Serena- I read your post... and for the most part I agree... I can relate first hand to your feelings... but I will say that not all men are like this. There are many men out there that are very loving and honest and would lay down their life for the woman they love. God created us different for good reasons. There are many women out there who fit your description as well. You have been hurt deeply and feel resentful- my advise to you would be to forgive the men in your life and love yourself... you deserve a good man and he is out there- Good luck Serena!

J_9
Jul 26, 2007, 08:27 AM
Wow Serena, I could only read the first few lines and just see how bitter you are. Goodness girl!! Have you considered counseling?

Sdjosh
Jul 26, 2007, 11:26 AM
Do you feel better now that you got that all out of your system? Good... with this view on relationships and men... you seem as though you have had a few bad experiences. You also have expectations that the man in your life will always fail you in some way. You may need to reevaluate your view if you ever intend to have a healthy relationship.

s_cianci
Jul 26, 2007, 11:56 AM
OK, this from a man's point of view:

In this world, there are three things we should never believe, namely, womens' promises, womens' emotions, and womens' excuses. If she gives you some life-long promise, that will be because she is not confident about your relationship; if she says to you that you are the man she loves most in her life, that will indicate that she has said the same thing to others; if she breaks her promises and gives you several excuses for that, please don't believe her. Women are good at making up excuses, and all the reasons can be summarized to only that ; excuses.

Women might be very sincere when promising, but are also serious when leaving. When she no longer loves you, she has changed her mind totally. But she would just think that all that you had which once attracted her to you has disappeared.

Never try to win love from a person who is above the age of 35 , never married before, and so far hasn't had a fixed boyfriend. Such women might either lack love ability or have something wrong with their hearts. If you insist on loving such women, you would become the person who is hurt finally.

If you are interested in a woman, just remember never show off your intelligence in front of her. If she is a stupid woman, she would not understand your wisdom. And if she is a wise woman, she herself is clever enough, so she is tired of clever men. But if you still want to let her know you are clever, when imparting any of your wisdom to her, please don't forget to say to her "But you are so clever, you must already know that."

If you want to know whether a woman loves you or not, just see whether she wants to let you be involved in her world. She might introduce you to her family and friends. If she doesn't introduce you to her parents, that means she doesn't love you at all. Don't be lied to. But if you have been lied to, she'll want you to just think that she was drunk when it happened.

When a woman meets a man, there is just one idea in a woman's heart, namely, to sleep with him.

If you think some woman is nice, and think you love her, please now pinch your leg. If you could not feel pain, congratulations ; you are still dreaming. Please wake up.

Women always treat men well in the beginning and dump them in the end. If you are a woman who is thinking of breaking up with a man now, please think of a good excuse.

Don't be content with her chasing after you for a long time. You had better figure out how often she calls you and visits you. If she does so every other week, please be careful! She doesn't do that because of loving you, but for achieving her own dreams.

If she is not nice to you, then break up with her absolutely. But please do that in a gentle manner because there would be a difference between gently breaking up and angrily breaking up. The former is due to her fault, but the latter is due to your personality.

Please let her feel sorry more. They don't know how to cherish what they have and just believe that what's valuable is what they could not have. Let her lose you and let her have her regrets.

Don't be moved by her feeling guilty. According to psychology, when she feels guilty, she has repulsed you in her unconsciousness.

Every man should be lied to by a woman once or twice. If it happens more than that, then she is not a woman but a female pig.

When a woman says "I like you", that doesn't mean she loves you; when a woman says "I love you", that doesn't mean she will marry you; when a woman marries you, that doesn't mean she will be nice to you forever; when a woman says she will be nice to you forever, she is lying. All that means is she is lonely and weary.

Women are such animals whose appearance are like that of peahens, whose temper are like that of she-bulls, and whose actions are like that some horses' (rear ends.)

Hate to break it to you my friend, but that's a two-way street. In my experience, far more women are guilty of the things you complain of than are men, but that's just based on my own experiences. Actually I really didn't plagarize this, despite appearances, as I had to make many corrections in grammar and diction in order to make this readable and convey the message that (I believe) you intended to convey. I'm sure I didn't find them all as I have limited time to work with. You obviously aren't one of those "wise women" you complain about in your thread. I guess you don't understand mine or anyone else's wisdom.

serena6878
Jul 26, 2007, 12:52 PM
When translating the article from German, I feel there might be some complaints and disagreements arising.
This is not what I think.
I just want to know what your opinions after reading it.
I am sorry for all. Sorry for skell, tal, and many people's concerns. And thank you all.
Just hope no woman or man would someday feel the same way as in this article.

J_9
Jul 26, 2007, 12:56 PM
So this post was an article and not a question or a rant? Bad form here really bad form.

Why did you post it then?

serena6878
Jul 26, 2007, 01:02 PM
I want to know what you think. I don't know whether it is true.
There must be some people think the same as the writer in the article.

bushg
Jul 26, 2007, 01:04 PM
Subscribe,

NeedKarma
Jul 26, 2007, 01:10 PM
But I hope someday I could be such bitter.
Why do you want to be bitter like that?

serena6878
Jul 26, 2007, 01:20 PM
I think the writer of this article should be a good woman. But her heart is fragile.
People who can write such a bitter article should be clever too, but just once focused on the wrong things much.
Bitterness might not be a bad thing.

Canada_Sweety
Jul 26, 2007, 01:34 PM
Haha! I see where you're coming from... but we must keep in mind that not all men are bad. Some are just worse then others. Trust me, as a girl who has had her heart ripped out & stomped on her fair share of times, there really are great guys out there:)

NeedKarma
Jul 26, 2007, 01:58 PM
(https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/../members/serena6878.html)serena6878 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/../members/serena6878.html) agrees: how can you quote my agreement:>
I am a god among men. :D

serena6878
Jul 26, 2007, 02:00 PM
On some other forums, they call this thread a building. I think it funny. If my post here is a building, I am the owner of this building. Innocent skell is on the first floor, and innocent people go on to make my building high.
Just differently I am a sad owner than the real owner. I won't rent it to anyone else. I wish all of you would be happy and continue being happy. Hope no one will ever live my establishment here.

Skell
Jul 26, 2007, 03:49 PM
I think serena meant to post an article she read somewhere in German and get our thoughts. Granted she didn't explain it very clearly however I know there was no harm intended.

I think we need to cut her some slack here as it appears that English may not be her first language.

Not so much bad form J_9. Just lack of understanding of how she should have structured this thread so we could understand.

talaniman
Jul 26, 2007, 08:55 PM
So do we get our deposit back? Before you answer there is always Judge Judy!!

mckenzie134
Jul 26, 2007, 09:16 PM
Your wrong some guys are nice you just haven't found one...

cal823
Jul 27, 2007, 03:34 AM
80% of guys I know are decent and nice. Me included :)

wall12
Jul 27, 2007, 09:07 PM
Not all men fit the descriptions you laid out. Those generalizations are probably based on a bad experience- whether it was you personally or someone very close to you. But regardless, it's not ethical to point the fingers towards all men as being savages. Sometimes us women aren't the greatest when it comes to relationships either. We have just as many faults as they do. Anyway, good luck in the future!

Canada_Sweety
Jul 27, 2007, 09:09 PM
I have mostly guy friends... and they all treat me with more love and respect then half my gal friends. Honestly, I hope your look on men changes soon... because they're actually realllly great when you meet the right ones.:D

cal823
Jul 28, 2007, 04:27 AM
I'm a guy, and I could say a lot of negative, terrible things about chicks from my experiences! I've been hurt, dumped, lied to, manipulated, etc by you lot, but I don't blame the whole gender for it.

Canada_Sweety
Jul 28, 2007, 08:57 AM
cal.. you are very wise...... and I appologize for all of your suffering on the behalf of woman kind:)

Geoffersonairplane
Jul 28, 2007, 09:08 AM
Don't judge all books by their cover. Don't compare one person to everyone else. Otherwise you fall into a pattern of negative and rather cynical way of thinking. No matter how many times you are let down or burned, don't give up hope, there will be a time for you that a good person will show up.

I do believe there are a lot of bad eggs but there are many good eggs too and there are those that gel better (so to speak).

cal823
Jul 29, 2007, 12:52 AM
Lol canada, apology accepted, though most men suffer due to chicks, its because we feel for certain chicks, and that makes us vulnerable to them

stonewilder
Jul 29, 2007, 08:14 AM
Wow! Some guy really hurt you. Feel your pain but don't hold on to it too long, otherwise that grate guy you dream of might pass you by.