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amber_gilbert
Jul 15, 2007, 04:13 PM
My name is amber. I have been married 6 months, and now my marriage is falling apart, I don't know what to do! I love him, but he gave me the ,"I love you but im not in love with you right now" line. I say that 6 months is too little time to really work on our marriage, this is both of our first marriage(he's 22, I'm 19) and this is also the first time living together with anyone for both of us. I don't know what to do , I'm so lonely and I'm afraid if I'm divorced at 19 no one will ever want to date me. Im not ugly, but I don't think I'm gorgeous. I'm 5'2 and I weigh 134, I have brown eyes and brown hair, and I can get dates, but I can't find a nice guy. I'm staring to wonder if there are any left. Should I try to make it work or just give up? PLEASE HELP

Shaunta
Jul 15, 2007, 04:19 PM
Well Really... Mr. Right Isn't Just Going To Appear It Takes Time... Just Sit Back Relax And What Is Suppose To Happen Will Happen... Everything Happens For A Reason... Why Try And Work Something Out If Hes Not In Love With You?? How Would You Be Able To Change His Feelings?

Wondergirl
Jul 15, 2007, 04:23 PM
This is why we older folks scream, "Don't get married so young! See the world first! Get a life of your own first! Find out who you are first! You don't know what love is!"

You two are married. You are married to him, and have a responsibility to him. He is married to you, and has a responsibility to you. You both have a responsibility to the vows that you took.

Make an appointment with a marriage counselor or minister/priest who is good at counseling. (If money is a problem, many counselors take that into account. Don't avoid counseling for lack of money or time.)

You both need to learn how to like each other. You also must learn what love is. Maybe you two will figure out how to save this marriage. I hope so. If not, at least you will learn things that you can apply to future relationships.

Amber, don't worry about appealing to another guy. Work on your marriage.

talaniman
Jul 15, 2007, 04:40 PM
How long were the two of you together before you got married? I think you got married for all the wrong reasons. You both need some marriage counseling

amber_gilbert
Jul 15, 2007, 05:24 PM
I want to work on it, but he's not sure he does. What do I say to convince him? I do love him. I've always believed marriage is forever, and he's my world. Bit he beats me, and he won't get help, I don't know how to make him understand

Fr_Chuck
Jul 15, 2007, 05:26 PM
IF he is physcially abusive, ( beat you) run don't walk away and don't ever look back. NO women deserves this.

Wondergirl
Jul 15, 2007, 05:26 PM
He beats you?? That puts a whole new spin on things.

Either he is willing to work on it or he isn't. If he is willing, find a counselor. If he isn't, then YOU find a counselor to figure out what to do next or go to a shelter if the beatings are bad.

Pook_Myster
Jul 15, 2007, 05:29 PM
'I can't find a nice guy'... Why would a married woman be looking for a 'nice guy'?

Shouldn't your husband be the nicest guy in the world to you? If not, then you aren't in the right relationship are you?

amber_gilbert
Jul 15, 2007, 05:30 PM
My mom let me move back in with her( she's the best, I don't know what I'd do without her)but its not all his fault. I tend to push him tell he breaks. When he's sober, he's the most wonderful man in the world but when he drinks, he's different. iv'e offered to go to aa meetings, but he won't
And this all hurts so bad

amber_gilbert
Jul 15, 2007, 05:32 PM
He used to be, but now he's only angry all the time, I don't know how to make this better

amber_gilbert
Jul 15, 2007, 05:33 PM
My cousin won't even talk to me anymore, because after he beat me, I went back to him but I love him and I want him to get the help he needs

Wondergirl
Jul 15, 2007, 05:37 PM
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT, AMBER!!

He is responsible for his own actions. No one can make someone be good or bad.

He owns his anger. He owns his drinking. He owns the abuse. It is HIS problem.

Get counseling for yourself. Go to Al-Anon meetings.

soraya
Jul 15, 2007, 05:58 PM
Dear Amber,
I am so sorry for what you are going through. It is very sad and I truly feel for you.
I was married 18 yrs (he first 4 were great). What a waste of 14, though.
Is he willing to go for counselling? There is NO reason why a 19 year old should be feeling so sad and alone. You may even consider going by yourself.
Don't forget, it does take 2 to make a marriage work or dissolve. Once cannot dance without a partner.
Don't try to get pregnant thinking that will make things better, it won't. Actually, it will get worse.
I know 6 months is a short time. If you cannot get it to work, get out. I know, easier said than done. I could not take it anymore and drove away on a Saturday.
I don't know if my email address shows up on the answer here, but if not, it is [email protected].
Write and I will write back. This is a time when you need all the support you can get.
Good luck to you
Suzanne

talaniman
Jul 15, 2007, 08:39 PM
I tend to push him tell he breaks.
That's what all enablers say. I have heard this so many times and it ALWAYS gets worse.He will not help himself, and your course of action is clear and that is to get him out of your life. Get some counseling for yourself and leave him completely alone until he wants to get help. Sorry but he will destroy your life if you let him get close again. Good Luck, and thank MOMS again.

amber_gilbert
Jul 17, 2007, 02:52 AM
I know. The only thing that bothers me is he only gets mean when he drinks. He cries after he hits me and says he needs help, but when I offer it he says he doesn't have time. Or its just not worth it. Other times he says he loves me. If I decide I do want out(im 99 %sure I do ) then do we have to get divorced? Or can we just get it anulled(Im catholic)?

Delilah P
Jul 17, 2007, 02:51 PM
Please call your local Catholic church. I have a cousin whose husband was an alcoholic and spent all of his time and money golfing. She was able to get an annulment.

Wondergirl
Jul 17, 2007, 02:55 PM
He won't get help (go to AA) if you continue to forgive him and enable him. Only when he thinks you're gone for good will he (maybe) get help. He's an alcoholic and is the only one who can do something to improve his life.

amber_gilbert
Jul 17, 2007, 06:41 PM
I talked to him tonight, I was in a singing competition, and the other day he said he wanted to know how it went, then tonight he said he really didn't care! Im ready to move on but I'm not sure I'm strong enough! I'm terrified I'm going to end up alone. I don't go to school, so how will I ever meet anyone? I'm just so confused I still love him, but he's drastically changed that love now. I used to think I would die without him and now I think I'll die if I stay!!

Wondergirl
Jul 17, 2007, 08:07 PM
You're only 19! I wasn't even married until I was almost 22. Take this step by step, day by day. We will be here if you want opinions and advice. We're on your side.

(Btw, I have two good-looking unmarried sons. I bet I'm not the only one.)

talaniman
Jul 18, 2007, 03:33 AM
so how will I ever meet anyone?
This is the least of your problems as he will not get better, and you need help, and have to end this dangerous relationship. You have a lifetime to meet someone. Take care of the business at hand, and let the future work itself out.

silentecho13
Jul 20, 2007, 12:01 PM
Hi hon...

Look, I'm 20 years old. I got married at 19. My marriage is also falling apart (after almost a year 1/2). My husband used to blame my temper for it and I willingly went and got rape counseling (another story) because I wanted to improve my behavior and help our marriage. Since I've talked to my counselors about what happened a few years ago and dealt with that shadow my temper is gone and I'm back to the way I felt before that happened (aside from marriage issues). I took care of the one thing he always blamed our problems on. He even admits that he can see that I've come so far so quick with it. You know what keeps happening though? The things he would say and do (I'm not talking stuff like leaving socks on the floor or forgetting to call) that frustrated me so much in the first place to the point I chose not to focus on controlling my temper (I would throw my phone, book, pillow I was holding and then leave the room and I've slapped him twice). Technically I was being abusive when I would do that. I don't hide it nor deny it. It was my choice to let myself get like that. But on the flip side, just because I chose to do that doesn't justify how he behaves and vice versa if the behavior is abusive. My husband is emotionally abusive. He doesn't want to see it and always claims that he doesn't have any problems. Or if I go to leave he'll beg and say how sorry he is. But he still doesn't get help nor put into practice what I literally beg him to do. Right now I'm going through trying to decide how long I should wait around for him to step out of denial. The longer I wait without him changing for himself and our marriage the further into denial I go.

There's a difference between him and I. We've both been abusive. But I chose to accept that I had been and do what it took to figure out how to change it and follow through. He is stuck on the fact that he thinks he would never be abusive to even just see what he's doing unless he's wanting something from me like not leaving him (which isn't really seeing that's manipulating- abuse). I'm telling you as someone that had serious issues that came out in anger: don't believe him until he actually takes care of the problem. If he's like that when he drinks (woo hoo my mother in law) then he shouldn't drink plain and simple. As just hinted my mother in law gets violent when she drinks. She admits she has a problem, but she hasn't taken care of it. She uses it as a crutch to get by without dealing with life and her family enables it.

Physical abuse is the most obvious abuse. It leaves broken objects and bruises. I don't care how drunk he is: physically harming anything is wrong. If he really cared about the fact that he's being abusive rather than his own pride he would take care of it. When I was throwing objects as I stormed out of the room I kept thinking what am I doing? How do I stop this? I looked into it and took care of it because I could see it was wrong and that it needed to stop. It took me a couple weeks alone to process that I had been abusive when I started looking into it. I'd always just thought of it as a hormonal or emotional thing affecting my temper. No. Being abusive and letting go of control is a choice. And if that choice gets made with impairment the drug should be completely removed. If he doesn't make the choice to get help and change you can't make him.

I know how hard it is to want it so badly for someone to see what they're doing you'll beg, come back, give them a million and one "second chances" - the whole time hoping this time you'll get through to them. I'm trying to stop doing that with my own husband at this very moment because he doesn't want to change. But you know what? You're using his behavior as a crutch to not move on with your own life. You're 19 for heaven's sakes! I'm only a year older than you and I'm still just like 19?! Honey, we both have our whole lives ahead of us. The fact alone that you even posted shows that you want to leave for good but you're still hoping for someone to tell you how to finally get him to just see and change. The fact that I'm even looking at this says the same about me ;).

Trying to change someone for ourselves is so disrespectful to them. It's obvious he has problems that he should change for himself. And if he can't change them for himself he won't change them for you. That's just the cold hard truth. My husband will not change for me, he's made it very clear. That is who he has decided to be. I need to finish telling my emotions to be respectful of who he is and let him chose who he is going to be. That doesn't mean I have to spend my life around it though. No one HAS to put up with being abused. I don't care what faith you follow, your age, gender, whatever! NO ONE DESERVES ABUSE! If you really love him let him make his decision about who he is going to be and leave him to it. The best way you can help him is to end it. He doesn't care about you, he cares about having control of you. That's what causes anger. The feeling of not being in control of your life and situations. He's addicted to needing to feel control whether it "only" happens when he drinks or not. I know it hurts to hear that and it'll hurt more when you realize it. But, sadly, that's reality. He's not going to pull some magical Disney transformation and change. If he wanted to he would have already. Nothing you can do anymore will help other than leaving him. You deserve a better life.

GoldieMae
Jul 20, 2007, 12:11 PM
Run from this man, and fast. There is no such thing as pushing a man until he breaks to the point of being allowed to hit you. And same goes for a woman. Hitting is a deal breaker.

You are nineteen. Once you hit 21, the whole entire world will open up for you. You will meet a new man no problem. I've never heard of a nineteen year old old maid. They don't exist. Going to college is a great way to meet nice guys.

But before you worry about meeting someone new, end the relationship, get counseling, and feel better about yourself. You really need to look out for yourself.

freaked out
Jul 20, 2007, 03:32 PM
Man girl I go through the same thing with my husband of 9 years I was 16 and he was 21 and now 9 years later same old same old story always going to be the same and now I am going to finally have the strength to leave him after he just dragged me from a car about 3 blocks and I almost died so I understand what you are going thorugh I have been on here for a while asking for help about mew and my husband he does not drink but he is additicted to pain killer and smokes weed 24 hours a day and we have 2 small babies and he will not keep a job and oh my god when I hear it from someone els I feel so dumb and you should too if he hurts you honey please leave before it is too late and I know how you are feeling you are reading thisa but your still thinking "well he might change " no honey he will not please forget him and move on with your life and be happy I am only 23 now and I have 2 beautiful kids and I am going to start over it is going to be the hardest thing I think I will ever do but I finally realized that he is not it I hope you do realize that before he dragges you from a car or something worse... good lucj HUN

amber_gilbert
Jul 22, 2007, 06:34 PM
To make things worse, I did something really stupid last night. I went to his apt. and we... you get the picture I just was so lonely and I missed him so much, I just wish I never met him!!

talaniman
Jul 22, 2007, 06:48 PM
I think you had better take the time to figure what it is you want. If you need help a pastor or professional can help you through this process.

freaked out
Jul 23, 2007, 10:07 AM
Leave baby it is not worth it please believe me I have been through it I know it is hard I am still having a hard time but you will be happier

paunash
Jul 25, 2007, 06:35 AM
Talk to him and ask if he wants divorce. If he does, divorce him, you be free woman, sooner or later you will find somebody. You really should believe more in yourself and you deserve more than this unresponsible guy.

Kattalover
Jul 25, 2007, 10:57 AM
he used to be, but now hes only angry all the time, i dont know how to make this better

You can't make him better. Only he can do that. By staying with him and trying to please him you're only giving out the message that there is something wrong with you, not with him or his behavior. Don't fall into that trap! Alcoholism and physical abuse are HIS problems to work on, not yours.

However, I have a feeling the answer to the question why you "can't find a nice guy" can be found in your family history and your own past.

jalmarshtri
Jul 25, 2007, 12:48 PM
Ok well your young enough to move on... Don't waste any more of your precious life worrying about him.. you have your whole life ahead of you to look forward too.. If a man hits you, talks down to you then he is not the right person.. Thank God it sh=ounds as though you have no children.. stay strong..
Good luck

Just Human
Jul 25, 2007, 07:44 PM
Abuse is typically cyclical, things will be OK and then bad and then there is the make-up and it repeats. Over time the "OK" times diminish... and then the make-up time diminishes... Over 80% of abused women return to their abusers, typically husbands and boyfriends. You can want him to change, but he needs to be the one. And he needs to see it.

I know it feels like the end of the world. I know you hurt and think you can fix this. YOU do not deserve abuse and it's NOT your fault. He needs to take control of his own behavior and take responsibility. You can beg, please, rationalize, cajole, but it has got to be him.

You are so young and have so much of your life ahead of you. Marriage should be forever, but it takes two healthy people. I know it's so hard to think that there is happiness after this, but your heart will heal.

Do things you love, spend time with your mom, surround yourself with friends and it will get better. Maybe your husband will have an epiphany and realize how important his marriage is, but you cannot pin your life on that -- live your life, be kind to yourself and learn from this experience so you will be ready for a healthy love relationship.

dcole
Jul 25, 2007, 11:56 PM
Amber is way too young to be trapped in an unloving marriage! Cut your losses and find yourself... then find true love - elsewhere!

amber_gilbert
Jul 30, 2007, 09:28 AM
He is gone. THank you everyone for your wonderful advice, it really helped. I realized that in order for me too heal, I need to get away from him... I still love him and I want the best for him, but I want children someday, and I really don't want them to have a father like I did! My dad was an too, and it screwed my life up. I want my kids to have a loving family , and with him-that won't happen
Thanks again everyone, and god bless!!

amber_gilbert
Jul 31, 2007, 12:48 PM
I just wanted to thank everyone for their wonderful advice. And to update, we are divorced and I may have found someone else. He's cute(and military) sweet, treats me with respect, the whole nine yards! Im taking it slow this time, who knows? In a couple years maybe I will be married with a couple kids! I'm not going to make the same mistake twice, I was too young and immature when I married Kory. But, they always say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and I've learned and matured from this experience. THANK YOU ALL!!

freaked out
Jul 31, 2007, 12:58 PM
I have a question?? Did you really leave him for real? Because I know how you feel and it is so hard to do and do not make the mistake like I did and be with the new guy righ away because it does not fix anything. And really honey how are you doing?

needsanswers
Aug 9, 2007, 02:56 PM
I went through the same thing got married when I was 19 and had two kids with him and am now in the process of divorce. If he beat you then leave him! He's not worth trying to fix it. Trust me I know first hand. It's tough and sad but you need to be with someone that loves you and is in love with you and not someone who hurts you. Be strong you can get through it! And there IS someone out there that will love you for the person you are. I stayed with my ex for almost 6 years and put up with too much because I wanted to have the father of my kids around. Don't make the same mistake I did.