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magprob
Jul 10, 2007, 08:42 PM
The Borders are being dismantled. The USA is being reduced to a 3rd world country. Every one of us now in the US will have to give our wealth to the others who cross into our country and bleed us dry. That is why the congress wants this "Amnesty Bill" to pass; it opens the way for the "North American Free Trade Alliance" to make the whole of North, Central and South America ONE COUNTRY. That is why the United States is not mentioned in The Book of Daniel or Revelation when the end time events mention all the prevalent countries. America will have NO influence or affect on world events, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL BE BROKEN DOWN AND DILUTED WITH THE REST OF NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA. JUST SAY GOOD BY TO THE CONSTITITION AND BILL OF RIGHTS.

Haxzor50
Jul 10, 2007, 08:46 PM
Yes this is true!

I believe this because I just saw superman fly over my house last night!

rankrank55
Jul 10, 2007, 08:57 PM
That is truly a scary situation... I don't see the need to converge all countries into one! We will no longer be the UNITED STATES of America...

rankrank55
Jul 10, 2007, 09:01 PM
OMG that's truly funny... very witty thinking! Hopefully this will never happen in the future or I will wake in my grave if it does!

Haxzor50
Jul 10, 2007, 09:04 PM
Yes.. thank you!

Mag, do you also think that the pick of destiny is real? I do!

I think jack black really did stop the devil from coming to the earth and rocking us all to death... and I think he's planning to do it again... with the help of bush (ofcourse) and his secret sidekick... BORAT!

tomder55
Jul 11, 2007, 03:42 AM
In case you would like to join in ;we have similar threads ongoing on the Politics board .


https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/politics/north-american-union-presented-congress-107254.html

Nez
Jul 11, 2007, 02:23 PM
Magprob,calm down.We have the European Parliament (EU),which speaks a million different languages,everyone talks from a different hymn sheet,and the time zones are all different.We cannot even agree on the weight of apples,being in kilograms,or ounces!!
Can you imagine the nice folk of Nabraska taking orders from the nice people of Mexico?
Er... neither can I.
Nice joke George.What do you do in your real job? :D

magprob
Jul 11, 2007, 05:06 PM
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15682

SPP Home (http://www.spp.gov/)

The NAFTA Super Highway (http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/aug06/06-08-23.html)

NASCO (http://www.nascocorridor.com/)

Coming Through! The NAFTA Super Highway | The New American (http://www.jbs.org/node/2048)

magprob
Jul 11, 2007, 05:09 PM
It could happen... but i dont think it would... i would rebel before anything that idiotic happened...

You won't rebel any more than any other American that is ignorant of what is really going on. Hell man, you still believe in Superman!

Haxzor50
Jul 11, 2007, 05:12 PM
Haha yeah dood... believe me, I would rebel... even if I was by myself.. I wouldn't want to live to see the day that mexico, canada, and america merged... disgusting...

cal823
Jul 11, 2007, 05:13 PM
this will not happen...

I think Bush and Satan are conspiring together to make pangea again!!!

Then, together Bush (the anti-christ) and Satan will control the world together!

40% of bushes voters are born again christians.
Christians put bush into power silly

America is the tower of capitalism and media and advertising and money mindedness and meddling and etc, its bound to fall anyway.
Maybe this merge will do good things, if the other nations involved gain equal power, then conditions all round will be improved.
This would also make america incredibly powerful, if it goes smoothly, with such huge population
Imagine for a moment, (I know this sounds paranoid)
An america in which constitution is gone, where freedom is a privilege, not a right, where the church is all powerful, where "sedition" and "dissent" is a crime. An america where canadians and mexicans are a lower second class, where supposed "terrorists" are imprisoned, where "neighbourhood watch" is on the lookout for ANYTHING supsicious, and due process is a joke.

It could happen you know, without constitution, and a lot of it is or has or is going to happen somewhere already anyway.

Haxzor50
Jul 11, 2007, 05:20 PM
And no! I would never think of that happening that way, the constitution is an almighty powerful thing that I love and cherish, I would hate for it to fall, that IS what our forefathers fought for to begin with, if it fell, the revolutionary war would be in vain! >:(

cal823
Jul 11, 2007, 05:23 PM
Just because something happening would make good things be in vain, doesn't mean it won't happen.
Here's the weirdest possible example of my point
Alien 2- ripley goes through, burns/shoots/explodes aliens, threatens queen, fights queen in weird robo forklift, to save little girl
Alien 3- little girl dies at start of movie.

Well, that's the last movie I watched lolz, so don't blame me for using it as an example!

Haxzor50
Jul 11, 2007, 05:26 PM
Umm.. don't worry.. I was never too into the whole aliens thing lol..

Good point... but I mean, americans should stand up for once and actually be Americans if this is an actual plan... If america, mexico, and canada merge, who would rule? Do you actually think Bush would keep office? Hah! He'd be killed, we would probably be communist before you know it! With the Constitution gone, anything could happen...

cal823
Jul 11, 2007, 05:29 PM
What's wrong with communist?
Sounds like the australia dilema
Polititian A or politian B
We have to decide who's the worst one, and vote for the other
So for you guys itd be... Communism or Capitalism?
Frankly, they both suck.

Haxzor50
Jul 11, 2007, 05:34 PM
Because Democracy pwns dood...

We are free, do you actually want to wake up and have someone tell you what you have to eat? What you have to buy, what job you have to get, who you have to hang out with, if you are or aren't going to have friends?

cal823
Jul 11, 2007, 05:38 PM
Sounds like democracy to me.
That's exactly what the media does, just more subversivly.

Haxzor50
Jul 11, 2007, 05:51 PM
But you don't have to listen to them... they don't tell you what to eat, and you don't have to do it... Everyone thinks that the Media rules this country... and their exactly right... but its only because you guys let the media rule you... I don't do what anyone tells me, in fact I do exactly the opposite...

cal823
Jul 11, 2007, 06:50 PM
That means they control what u do too

PixieMama
Jul 11, 2007, 07:44 PM
The Borders are being dismantled. The USA is being reduced to a 3rd world country. Every one of us now in the US will have to give our wealth to the others who cross into our country and bleed us dry. That is why the congress wants this "Amnesty Bill" to pass; it opens the way for the "North American Free Trade Alliance" to make the whole of North, Central and South America ONE COUNTRY. That is why the United States is not mentioned in The Book of Daniel or Revelation when the end time events mention all the prevalent countries. America will have NO influence or affect on world events, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL BE BROKEN DOWN AND DILUTED WITH THE REST OF NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA. JUST SAY GOOD BY TO THE CONSTITITION AND BILL OF RIGHTS.

The rights of americans have been diminishing slowly over the last 8 years. Remember The Patriot Act? But I agree with you in the rage/anger/frustration towards what this Amnesty Bill will do. My step father and I have had many long talks about this subject as of late. It's disgusting what people will let the government get away with. I think it's time the american people get together and fight for their country - and I'm not talking about in some other country, but here in this country, in their home land!

Not to burst your bubble or anything... but... when the book of Daniel & Revelation were written America did not exist and that is why it was not mentioned.

But surprisingly, I do agree with you on the rest of it. People need to pay attention to what's going on. But sadly, they bask in their ignorance.

sGt HarDKorE
Jul 11, 2007, 08:10 PM
This is all true. With china rising in the ranks and russia going back to communist, the world is changing and I do not think the US is ready.

Haxzor50
Jul 11, 2007, 08:13 PM
The US will fall.. because of BUSH he's sooooooo retarted! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

The Amnesty Bill should should be veto'd

magprob
Jul 11, 2007, 09:46 PM
Not to burst your bubble or anything...but...when the book of Daniel & Revelation were written America did not exist and that is why it was not mentioned.

But suprisingly, I do agree with you on the rest of it. People need to pay attention to what's going on. But sadly, they bask in their ignorance.

Well dog gone it! That's why it ain't in there! Heck.:eek:

shatteredsoul
Jul 13, 2007, 03:51 PM
OK Haxzor on this subject, I happen to agree with you. I took Constitutional Law in college and needless to say, it was FASCINATING. We really don't know what we are doing to it by appointing conservative judges and administrations. Slowly we are chipping away at the fabric of our Constitution. Slowly the Bill of Rights is affected as well. Yes, I guess for some ignorance is bliss. I wish more people would protest and fight against the hippocrisy of this administration. I am soooooo ready for 2008, we need a change. I think my dog is more qualified to run the country. The puppet and his evil master D!ck Cheney. What an a$$ and I swear he is an evil son of a b!tch. Yeah, on this one no red marks from me!

Canada_Sweety
Jul 13, 2007, 05:10 PM
... Umm... I probably don't have much right with this subject but here's the deal. Why do you have such a poor opinion of the rest of the world. Sure, you have pride in your country and I don't blame you. The USofA has done a lot of amazing things, but so have many other countries. I don't think that just because America isn't in the book of Daniel or Revelations that has anything to do with anything. The Bible was made like over a long period and you know (if you read the bible) that Daniel withheld some information because it was God's will. Hope your country doesn't have to be joined with all the other countries of the America's seeing how the USA is basically the "big boss"of the world.

Haxzor50
Jul 13, 2007, 05:40 PM
Canada, I don't hate any other countries... you have it wrong.. I hate how they are run... I like the people... what I would actually like is for people in other countries to experience what americans have to experience, I would like all other countries to have the American Dream, just like us...

Shattered, I'm glad you agree, I also agree that 2008 will be a great year, but the american people have gotten lazy, they don't think things out anymore, they vote just to vote... we need to be able to read these people like we used to, all bush thinks about is his wallet, and we don't need some rich president who only thinks about money! We need someone who thinks about the middle class just as well as the higher class...

NeedKarma
Jul 13, 2007, 05:47 PM
what i would actually like is for people in other countries to experience what americans have to experience, i would like all other countries to have the American Dream, just like us...You mean to feel the need to appear wealthy and in doing so take on crushing debt? To backpack across Europe and wear a Canadian flag on their backpack to feel safe? To have your personal liberties violated? To possibly go bankrupt if you should fall ill? No thank you. Perhaps you should experience the Canadian Dream or the Swiss Dream.

Canada_Sweety
Jul 13, 2007, 05:57 PM
Haxor, I have soooo much respect for you and frankly pretty much 100% agree with you. Karma, you can't stereo type like that. Not all Americans are like that, just like not all Canadian are peace loving. Heck, I am Canadian and damn proud and yes, because people suck, the American dream looks slightly warped... but I think Haxor has the right idea.

Haxzor50
Jul 13, 2007, 05:59 PM
Hah, well I don't do that karma, and I hate that you feel that way about all americans, but the truth is... Americans will never hate you the way you hate us because we have better morals... I don't know you, and I'm not going to judge you... I wouldn't stick america in anyone's face just as much as I would act like I'm from some other country karma, I am a human being and all people should act like human beings, be it race, color, oor even country that they come from... and I personally am not offended by what you say about america... And pretty much the only thing I wan to do is show support to other countries...

And as far a the Canadian Dream, I know a bunch of canadians, and I think you know what I mean... the europeans, and canadians, don't have it bad at all! And you know I wasn't talking about them karma, I was talking about the 3rd world countries that need help... so please watch your tongue...

NeedKarma
Jul 13, 2007, 06:54 PM
I don't hate americans, I'm there all the time. My sister lives there too. But it's not all puppy dogs and butterflies as you paint it to be.
If you were talking about 3rd world countries perhaps you should mention that in your post.

Haxzor50
Jul 13, 2007, 07:45 PM
Well I was hoping that everyone would get the picture and comprehend that man...

If your living good, why would I say I want you to?

I do want you to.. but I mean, you should have known that the message wasn't directed to you...

And, yes I was wrong to use the word hate... BUT I would never judje you, I don't know you... and on top of all that, I feel bad that you think that all americans are alike, in my opinion, I wouldn't care if I was discriminated in your country... I would just laugh it off and say that I'm glad that my country has the morals and the self-discipline not to do that to you, we're actually hospitipal in other words...

cal823
Jul 14, 2007, 04:07 AM
Hey? Cheer up! Life is good, the world is good, who cares if there's a few problems and faults here and there? Fix them! And don't say that they can't be fixed, because it's that attitude that stops problems from being resolved.

N0help4u
Sep 29, 2007, 02:39 PM
I heard back in the early 70's that one day Russia would no longer be communist and America would be like a third world country. Someone told me in the mid 70's that someday "another country" would take down the twin towers and go after D.C. while they were at it on a Sept 11th. I have been trying to keep up with a lot of the conspiracy theories through the years but some (much) now is said by emotional liberals that are screaming fire where there isn't even smoke.
While I do not believe in much of the conspiracy theory I do see much of what is happening
Where it is Bible based and adds up. A lot of it is far fetched trying to find problems with Bush
He does have enough fault but not as much as the liberals want to attribute to him.
I have said all along, for years, that Bush has no intention of closing the borders and any talk is just window dressing and smoke screens to keep the Bush-bots at peace with him.

startover22
Sep 30, 2007, 09:26 AM
hey? cheer up! life is good, the world is good, who cares if theres a few problems and faults here and there? fix them! and dont say that they can't be fixed, because its that attitude that stops problems from being resolved.
Do you know that you are really cool.. I needed to just say that about you... and now I will be gone! Bam!:eek:

Stringer
Oct 21, 2007, 10:50 PM
I heard back in the early 70's that one day Russia would no longer be communist and America would be like a third world country. Someone told me in the mid 70's that someday "another country" would take down the twin towers and go after D.C. while they were at it on a Sept 11th. I have been trying to keep up with a lot of the conspiracy theories through the years but some (much) now is said by emotional liberals that are screaming fire where there isn't even smoke.
While I do not believe in much of the conspiracy theory I do see much of what is happening
where it is Bible based and adds up. A lot of it is far fetched trying to find problems with Bush
He does have enough fault but not as much as the liberals want to attribute to him.
I have said all along, for years, that Bush has no intention of closing the borders and any talk is just window dressing and smoke screens to keep the Bush-bots at peace with him.

I certainly agree, things are not as bad as some indicate at all. It is good to pay attention to what is going on and if you don't like it, then change it; it's that simple. Those that spread all this hate and despair so violently; think... by doing this aren't you contributing to it.

edzmedz
Oct 22, 2007, 01:41 AM
What's that racist attitude for? I mean aren't all Americans immigrants to begin with?
Anyway start by cleaning your own dishes and floors and building your own bridges and maybe there won't be so many job vacancies to be filled by whomever you don't approve of.
PS: I am not Mexican in case you were wondering lol

benn11
Oct 22, 2007, 02:03 AM
I agree, America is made up of different people from all over the world, so the mexicans just want to be part of the whole big family!