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toddlovell19
Jul 7, 2007, 03:10 PM
Hi,

Me and my friend are deeply in love with each other! And what I want to know is, is it OK for me to date her without getting in trouble. If there isn't no sexual inter actions with each other. I'm 19 and she's 14. I would appreciate the help !

Fr_Chuck
Jul 7, 2007, 03:18 PM
Most likely her parents will not want you to, so unless they give permission to "date" you can not.

And from a honest opinion, no you should not, a 19 year old has no business at all dating a child. If you do, and it leads to sex, you go to jail for a long time, and many in the jails have kids and don't like child rapists in there.

excon
Jul 7, 2007, 05:01 PM
Hello Todd:

It's not illegal, but it's not a good idea.

excon

liet
Jul 7, 2007, 05:33 PM
It is illegal to have sex with a person who is at least 2 years younger than you and more so because you (male) are an adult. By law, you can go to jail, even if she consents.

This was shown on a daytime talk show. The guy was 17 and the girl was 16; they were boyfriend and girlfriend. He went to jail. Even if the parents do not press charges, the District Attorney can.

My advice is to check your local, state and federal statutes before you end up in JAIL.

JoeCanada76
Jul 7, 2007, 05:39 PM
It is illegal to have sex with a person who is at least 2 years younger than you and more so because you (male) are an adult. By law, you can go to jail, even if she consents.

This was shown on a daytime talk show. the guy was 17 and the girl was 16; they were boyfriend and girlfriend. He went to jail. Even if the parents do not press charges, the District Attorney can.

My advice is to check your local, state and federal statutes before you end up in JAIL.'

It all depends on each state, country, province. Just depends on the laws of the land and they are different where ever you go.

My answer is the same as Fr Chuck. What are you doing with a 14 year old? You have no business dating a child.

unclesams
Jul 7, 2007, 05:39 PM
hi,

me and my friend are deeply in love with each other! and what i want to know is, is it ok for me to date her without getting in trouble. if there aint no sexual inter actions with each other. im 19 and shes 14. i would appreciate the help !
Come on...

I was 17 and dated a 13 year old - but we never had sex - so NO it is not illegal and NO you can not go to jail - YOU MUST NOT SCREW UP or you will be in jail for a few years, and even if today she will lie - she might change her mind in a few months or after you guys break up and then you are in JAIL.

Good luck treat her well.

bushg
Jul 7, 2007, 06:13 PM
Her parents can stop you if they want. She is under their care until she is 18. I am not an attorney, but I am sure that you being an adult and her a minor if they prohibt you from seeing her you will be breaking some type of law. At the very least contributing to the delinquency of a minor if not more. Talk to your local police station. Also if you make out with her kiss, or touch her that is considered sexual contact. If you stick any of your body parts into her vagina, anus or mouth that will be considered rape. So my advice to you would be unless they like and trust you back off. Even if they accept the relationship. If that is the case I hope that you are very disciplined because if you have any type of sex with her, mom and dad may get angry and press chartges or if you pi$$ of the girl friend she can yell rape.

Thank you jesus I need all the help I can get. Lol you did startle me though ,my mom was a holy roller if you know the term. Oh,and she still is one. 666 was a big no! No!

J_9
Jul 7, 2007, 08:09 PM
Most 14 year olds do not understand true love. They are still in the infatuation and puppy love stage.

Before anyone bashes me, I have raised 3 14 year olds.

They just don't comprehend the complexities of true love at this stage in their lives. Sure many may claim to "be mature" for their age, but in all honesty it is not possible.

14 year olds and 19 year olds are in 2 totally different developmental stages in life.

I tell you, if a 19 year old boy came to our house to see my daughter right now, he'd be looking down a barrel if dad answered the door.

And I'm not even addressing the sex.

PixieMama
Jul 8, 2007, 09:58 AM
There is a 19 yr old boy who was hanging around my little sister and her friends. This kid only dates 13 & 14 yr old girls. My parents, my step sister (23), my brother (30), my husband and I all had a problem with this - not to mention all my guy friends saying there is something just not right with this. The most common question is what does a 19 year old have in common with a 13/14 year old girl? If you have sex you could end up in jail. And it's generally not a good idea to date a child when you are legally an adult. You two are in two different stages of mental development and at 14 she doesn't know what "love" is in the same sense that you might. I was a 14 year old girl once and I can honestly say that looking back, I didn't know what love was at that age.

excon
Jul 8, 2007, 10:07 AM
Hello again, Todd:

I don't know about you, but when I was 19 I was trying to boff anything that walked. I'll bet you're not toooooo different than that.

Therefore, I reiterate my earlier advice. It's NOT a good idea.

excon

PS> I'm 64 now, and STILL trying to boff anything that walks.

saraispiel19
Jul 8, 2007, 10:13 AM
Who sαys she loves you she's 14 -- she's like α puppy αny αttention is better thαn none-- by the time she hits your αge she'll probαbly remember you αs the creepy guy..

Your old enough now to see whαts wrong/right-- your not in love with this prepubescent girl αnd sexuαl intercourse would be considered stαtutory rαpe

Go find someone your own αge-- α 14 yeαr old won't give you whαt α person your αge would.. whαt is she gonnα do? When you go out you'll hαve α nine o'clock curfew, mαybe you could help her with her homework lαter... yα sounds greαt

talaniman
Jul 8, 2007, 10:22 AM
The best thing to do is go to her father, and get his permision to see his daughter. The law does not apply inside a mans house.

lamboleum
Jul 13, 2007, 09:34 PM
Ok well dude I'm just like you but my girl is one year older than yours. Love is something that can happen at any age and is not to be stereotyped. I love my girl more than anything in the world. Not all guys are out for sex, some of us just want that one special girl. Mine acts like an 18 year old and I know that God has brought us together. Nothing can happen to you as long as no zoom zoom in the boom boom happens. And if you truly love her her parents will be able to see it and they won't have a problem. KEEP IT STRONG MY BRO! Listen to someone who knows all about this stuff.

talaniman
Jul 14, 2007, 08:19 AM
if you truly love her her parents will be able to see it and they won't have a problem. KEEP IT STRONG MY BRO! Listen to someone who knows all about this stuff.
Any parent who lets there 14 year old daughter to go out with a 19 year old man is a idiot. Listen to someone who REALLY knows all about this stuff.

Clough
Jul 16, 2007, 12:31 AM
Most likely her parents will not want you to, so unless they give permission to "date" you can not.

And from a honest opinion, no you should not, a 19 year old has no business at all dating a child. If you do, and it leads to sex, you go to jail for a long time, and many in the jails have kids and don't like child rapists in there.


Comments on this post
Bushg agrees: and to take a chance on being tagged a sexual offender/predator for 10 or more years.
Lamboleum disagrees: My girlfriend is 15 and I'm 19. We love each other. Just don't 'do it' and you'll have clear sailing. But respect her parents too.

19 to 15 or 19 to 14 is a huge difference in age and also understanding about life when learning about and understanding things during those years. Too big a difference in age to even be messing around with a relationship. But, do her parents respect the relationship that you have with each other? This question being directed towards lamboleum.

lamboleum
Jul 22, 2007, 11:09 PM
For being a relationship exper that was a very novice reply. My girlfriend has the maturity level of an 18 year old. And I can prove it. Not an idiot they would be. But need to be cautious, yes.

Clough
Jul 23, 2007, 12:30 AM
Dear lamboleum,

As you get used to using this site, you will learn that it is best that if you want to post a response directly to someone, you will press the "Quote User" button and then post your response. Rating people is something that you do if the poster is totally incorrect and off base, or that you agree with what they have posted or want to compliment them.

I asked you the following question:
But, do her parents respect the relationship that you have with each other?

I was not challenging you, but just asking a question. Therefore, I had not made a statement as to what you are doing is right or wrong. But, was only wondering what her parents think of the relationship that you have with each other.

Please post a response and not a rating if someone is merely asking a question.

Thank you!

miszcrazi4eva
Jul 23, 2007, 02:35 AM
hi,

me and my friend are deeply in love with each other! and what i want to know is, is it ok for me to date her without getting in trouble. if there aint no sexual inter actions with each other. im 19 and shes 14. i would appreciate the help !
Well its okay if your parents and her parents agree with the 2 of you.. and well I'm dating a 17 year old and I'm 14 and all I needed was permission from my mother and she was okay with it and the only way you can get in trouble is if her parents don't allow it and if you 2 end up having sexual things going on in the relationship and you break up wit the girl and if her parents didn't agree with you two going out @ all her parents could sue you for rape...

talaniman
Jul 23, 2007, 04:50 AM
(https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/lamboleum.html)lamboleum (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/lamboleum.html) : For being a relationship exper that was a very novice reply. My gf has the maturity level of an 18 year old. And I can prove it. Not an idiot they would be. But need to be cautious, yes.
(https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/lamboleum.html)
She maybe mature in your eyes, but as a father that raised 4 girls, the 14-18 years for a female should be focused on her emotional growth, and education, and I be damned if some young punk will come along and mess that up. At 18/19 you young fellas are not that mature yourselves, so rather than put my girls in that situation, its better to run you off, BY ANY MEAN NESSECARY. When you have girls of your own you can be an idiot, or a responsible parent.

alizabethdarlameithof
Jul 26, 2007, 08:54 PM
well its okay if your parents and her parents agree with the 2 of you.. and well im dating a 17 year old and im 14 and all i needed was permission from my mother and she was okay with it and the only way you can get in trouble is if her parents dont allow it and if you 2 end up having sexual things going on in the relationship and you break up wit the girl and if her parents didnt agree with you two going out @ all her parents could sue you for rape ...
I just really don't think it's okay. I was fifteen dating an older man, and my parents found out, they freaked out and threw his butt in prison. I am eighteen now, and he is still in there. I feel sorry for him because that happened to him, but then again it was his own fault. I just think if you really like her, let her go, and return to her when she is eighteen. You really don't want to be known as a pedophile do you.

wynelle
Jul 28, 2007, 05:35 PM
Georgia has a big case about this right now. An eighteen year old man and a fifteen year old girl had consensual oral sex. He mother objected after the fact and the young man is doing ten years in prison. Oh- and he was an honor student and in line for several college scholarships. And she was "very mature." TEN YEARS IN PRISON!

As a former 14 year old girl, the mother of a former 14 year old girl and the mother of a former 19 year old boy--- got to tell you- I would question the common sense of your match-up.

No fourteen or fifteen year old is going to admit they "aren't mature," and a lot are thrilled to have the attention of a nineteen year old, BUT NEITHER OF YOU HAS THE COMMON SENSE OR MATURITY OF A SAND GNAT. And that goes for Lamboleum, especially. You are both just looking for a statutory rape charge---or at worse an interfering with parental custody/authority charge.

Back away slowly and stay away until the young ladies are at least 18.

GlindaofOz
Jul 28, 2007, 06:28 PM
Georgia has a big case about this right now. An eighteen year old man and a fifteen year old girl had consensual oral sex. He mother objected after the fact and the young man is doing ten years in prison. Oh- and he was an honor student and in line for several college scholarships. And she was "very mature." TEN YEARS IN PRISON!!
.


Not to mention that its not an "easy" 10 years in prison. There is honor among thieves my dears and if you are in prison for molesting a kid (which you would be since she's 14) or beating up on a woman you face some VERY painful and serious problems in prison. I will not elaborate but I'm sure you can figure it out for yourselves.

JapanMan
Aug 4, 2007, 11:22 PM
Lamboleum I'm with you all the way. I'm with a 14 year old right now and I'm 18 and we have a great relationship. Its fun... to be honest her mom doesn't know about it but we don't engage in sexual intercourse, she is fun to be around and hang out with. We aren't doing anything illegal and we both really like each other. I completely support your decision lamboleum.

kemikal12
Aug 5, 2007, 05:04 PM
Yes it is illegal. That is saggitory rape if you have sex on your part. I don't suggest it. If your 19 why wouldn't you want someone the same age or older? I don't think you should be involved in something like that

jelsusmc
Aug 6, 2007, 10:19 PM
This is not the user of this profile its his friend that's laughing histarically right now I'm 22 and my BABY sis is 14 and if I caught a 19yr old or hell even an 18yr old with her I would rearrange they're face like a picasso art piece if you catch my drift

Clough
Aug 6, 2007, 11:24 PM
I am posting just so others are aware who are expending energy in replying to the original post.

toddlovell19 originally posted his question on Jul 7, 2007, 04:10 PM and has not so much as logged back onto this site since "Last Activity: Jul 7, 2007 04:10 PM."

lilsara1122
Aug 8, 2007, 10:57 PM
hi,

me and my friend are deeply in love with each other! and what i want to know is, is it ok for me to date her without getting in trouble. if there aint no sexual inter actions with each other. im 19 and shes 14. i would appreciate the help !
I have that same question.x-cept the other way
I'm 14 and this guy I like a lot is 19 and were not dating because were scared he could go to jail.:(

sGt HarDKorE
Aug 8, 2007, 11:05 PM
Hes told for you sara, find someone your own age.

talaniman
Aug 9, 2007, 05:10 AM
Okay tell me how, and where a grown man can socialise with a 14 year old, without her lying about her whereabouts to her parents, and how healthy is it for a child to have to sneak around to be with a grown man??

ScottGem
Aug 9, 2007, 06:06 AM
I am posting just so others are aware who are expending energy in replying to the original post.

toddlovell19 originally posted his question on Jul 7, 2007, 04:10 PM and has not so much as logged back onto this site since "Last Activity: Jul 7, 2007 04:10 PM."

That is often the way with threads. People ask questions and don't even know how to find their way back. But its still worth commenting on a thread like this to warn off others who might want to take such a step.

ScottGem
Aug 9, 2007, 06:08 AM
I just really don't think it's okay. I was fifteen dating an older man, and my parents found out, they freaked out and threw his butt in prison. I am eighteen now, and he is still in there. I feel sorry for him because that happened to him, but then again it was his own fault. I just think if you really like her, let her go, and return to her when she is eighteen. You really dont want to be known as a pedophile do you.

Thanks for sharing your situation, but I have to say that it was entirely his own fault. You participated and encouraged him. So you have to share some of the blame.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 05:38 AM
If you love her/him go for it... am 15 and I love a 29 yr old... he loves me... if it turns out not to be love after a another year fair enough that was my mistake(100% sure it won't though)... its got nothing to do with anyone else... GO FOR IT I say... you love and learn from your mistakes if thts what it turns out to be... remember you only live once... I've been told I'm very mature for my age.. by experts... counselors... so don't say any 14/15 year old isn't mature... times have changed a lot from when all you's older folks were young... these days 14/15 yr old girls arnt playing with barbies... remember that. XOx

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 07:02 AM
tbh if you love her/him go for it....am 15 and i love a 29 yr old...he loves me.....if it turns out not to be love after a another year fair enough that was my mistake(100% sure it wont though)....its got nothing to do with anyone else...GO FOR IT i say...you love and learn from your mistakes if thts wht it turns out to be...remember you only live once... i've been told im very mature for my age..by experts...counselors.... so dnt say any 14/15 year old aint mature...times have changed alot from when all you's older folks were young.....these days 14/15 yr old gurls arnt playing with barbies...remember that. xOx

Times haven't changed that much. Girls 14/15 are still not mature enough for such a relationship. You MAY (and I stress the MAY) be the exception, but it is irresponsible and immature of you (typical of a 15 year old) to encourage such a relationship in others. The odds are so much against such a relationship working. You really need to grow up, obviously you haven't yet.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 08:01 AM
Some of them are... she may be one of the girls that are mature enough for that sort of relationship... clearly times have changed you just haven't clicked on yet... look at other sites and this one how many people are asking for advice on here about dating 15 yr olds? How many say those 15 year olds are mature... nearly all of them excatly... and no need to get cocky.. I have grown up and have had to quite fast.

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 08:06 AM
SOME of them may be. But most are not. And no I'm not out of step and the fact that people come to sites like this asking about it doesn't make it right or justified. Of course a 15 year old wanting to date an older person is going to say they are mature or the older person is going to say that. Would you expect them to say they wanted to date a 15 yr old that was immature??

Obviously you haven't grown up. You just think you have. But you are making bad decisions with your life and worse you are encouraging others to make bad decisions.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 08:13 AM
I no I'm not making bad decisions... you just think I am... you arnt in my shoes.. you wudnt no... if everything does turn out bad ill let you no... but honestly I do think that the man that left this comment asking for advice should go for it... if it doesn't work out.. hardluck.. love and learn.. move on... if you don't try it you'll never no what might have happened... *quote*You MAY (and I stress the MAY) be the exception*quote*.


N how do you no I haven't grown up.. you don't even no me to tell me I'm immature...

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 08:27 AM
Excuse me? Hardluck? You don't think it's a problem if an older man (19) exploits a young girl (14), gets her pregnant them leaves her with a kid? That's just "hard luck" to you? And you wonder why I say you are immature and need to grow up??

No I don't know you, but one can tell a good deal from what one posts. And everything you have posted screams immaturity. You are a 15 yr old girl who used a fake ID to go clubbing where you let yourself get involved with and have sex with a 29 year old man. Now you think you are in love with him. And you are willing to advise other people to get into the same trouble. And if they get hurt or wind up with their lives ruined by an early pregnancy, that's just hard luck.

Sorry babz but this shouts immature to me. I really feel sorry for you, but you are heading for a fall and its going to hurt you a lot more than you know. I'm not, however, going to let you bring others down with you by letting you give out bad advice without challenge.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 08:40 AM
*quote* without challenge *quote* without challenge listen to you calling me immature... wht age are you like 50? And your challenging a 15 who is only telling a person advice form what she knows and has done in life?

*quote* if there isn't no sexual inter actions with each other *quote* she's hardly going to be left with a kid if there isn't no sexual intercoarse so wise up... a baby isn't just going to form from nowere.

when I z hardluck I meant as in a break up.. he/she may get hurt but thts life.. better learning from your mistakes than being told its rong... im just saying I think your wrong and then you get all cocky by telling me I'm immature and will get hurt... I no I won't get hurt because unlike some people i.e U.. I no I'm in love and I no we will work and as does he.

and I think you'll find that I didn't have sex with him until my mother new I was dating him and he new what age I was so don't go saying my life is trouble because if anything its not... its fun... im happy and so is he and if the person hu is dating the 14 yr old girl and her are going to experience the same happiness I am I think it may b just worth my while telling them what advice I want without being contradicted by u.

talaniman
Aug 10, 2007, 09:46 AM
Any parent that lets her 14 year old DATE a grown man is an irresponsible parent with no regard to their child's future and at 15 you may be mature, but not mature enough to be responsible for yourself, and you know nothing of life if someone takes care of you, feeds you and maintains a roof over your head. Be very grateful I isn't yo Daddy because your boyfriend would be in jail and you in the doghouse.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 09:49 AM
Good for you... I don't have a dad because he died but yea mayb e wuda put him in jail... doubt it though... he always wanted me to be happy.. and as for anyone who would even say about puttn der child in a doghouse is an irresponsible parent.

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 09:51 AM
A 14 year old is often more likely to listen to a peer than an adult especially if the peer is unchallenged. The fact is that people often lurk at sites like these reading the advice to apply to their own situations. So, no its not immature to challenge bad advice from ANYONE, whatever age they be.

And who is saying there isn't or won't be sex? You are naïve as well as immature if you expect such a relationship will be totally chaste.

So now you are saying you didn't have sex with this 29 year old until AFTER he knew you were only 15? And you think because your mother OKed him dating you that's going to keep him out of jail?

Girl, you are living in a fantasy world and someday, probably soon, it going to come crashing down on your head. I am very sure of that. But I'm not going to let you give bad advice that will lead some other girl down the same dangerous path you have taken.

Keep trying to argue with me. It only shows how immature you are. I'm trying to protect people from bad advice, you are trying to lead them into trouble.


good for you...i dont have a dad bcuz he died but yea mayb e wuda put him in jail...doubt it though...he always wanted me to b happy..and as for anyone who wud even say bout puttn der child in a doghouse is an irresponsible parent.

More evidence of your immaturity. A parent who wants their child to be happy wouldn't let them be exploited by someone twice their age. And Tal's doghouse comment was figurative not literal. I can tell, if I could, I would be reporting your pedophile BF to the police.

GlindaofOz
Aug 10, 2007, 09:52 AM
Well Darling here in the States your boyfriend would be in jail. It is illegal what you and your boyfriend are doing. Here in the states we would consider him to be contributing to the delinquency of a minor as well as statutory rape. Which is neither her nor there. Maybe its different in the UK.

It does not stop the fact that a man who dates a young girl is a predator. This question is NOT about you. It is about whether it is okay in the States for him to pursue a relationship with a 14 year old. No it is not okay. Period end of story. Its not open to opinion there are laws.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 09:59 AM
maybe so but hu z the fella hu posted the comment is from the states?
I don't care what u's think about mi relationship. I'm not the 1 hu asked for advice... im giving it.. its not up to you to defend or be cocky and getty about my comment its up to the fella hu posted it to decide not u's... u's had the chance to say what u's thought... now I'm saying what I think e should do... sorry if yous do disagree but life doesn't revolve around you's.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:03 AM
*quote*And who is saying there isn't or won't be sex? You are naïve as well as immature if you expect such a relationship will be totally chaste. * quote*

Him... the fella hu posted the comment z it... not me... him... he could wait until she was legal before having sexual intercoarse but still date her up until then. So don't give me all the chaste bull.

J_9
Aug 10, 2007, 10:03 AM
With a little bit of SuperModerator powers I know what state he is in. He is in the states and it is illegal in that state.

It may even be illegal in the UK with your age gap.

These men can be labeled sex offenders for the rest of their lives!!

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:06 AM
Its perfectly legal in the uk with parental consent... I could b dating a 99 yr old and with parental consent it would be OK... thts the way it should be too...

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 10:06 AM
maybe so but hu z the fella hu posted the comment is from the states?
i dont care wht u's think about mi relationship. im not the 1 hu asked for advice...im giving it..its not up to you to defend or be cocky and getty about my comment its up to the fella hu posted it to decide not u's.... u's had the chance to say wht u's thought...now im sayin wht i think e shud do....sorry if yous do disagree but life doesnt revolve around you's.

You are entitled to your opinion but so are we. However, we pride ourselves on the quality of advice we give here. And we are not going to let someone with little or no life experience lead someone else down a dangerous path. If you give questionable or bad advice we will counter it. I think the only thing keeping your boyfriend from jail is that they don't know you had sex with him. But if you are pregnant, that will change.

Oh, and by the way, this is a bulletin board, not a chat, IM or text messaging. There is no need to use chat speak here.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:08 AM
He won't go to jail with my parental consent... even if I am pregnant.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:09 AM
All I'm saying on the fella hu posted this comment is to go for it and I wish you all the best xox

J_9
Aug 10, 2007, 10:12 AM
Actually, you are wrong. The age of consent in London is 16. So it is illegal. Whether your parents agree or not.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:13 AM
I am right... I don't live in england I live in ova part of uk.

J_9
Aug 10, 2007, 10:16 AM
Are you telling me that England is NOT in the UK?

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 10:16 AM
its perfectly legal in the uk with parental consent...i could b dating a 99 yr old and with parental consent it would be ok....thts the way it should be too....

Sorry, but no. According to what I have read the age of consent in the UK is 16 (17 in Ireland). And, if the older party was over 21 then there is no excuse about not knowing or consent.

So, if the authorities find out you had sex with him he's in jail. If this creep really loves you, he would have waited.

Chery
Aug 10, 2007, 10:17 AM
I am posting just so others are aware who are expending energy in replying to the original post.

toddlovell19 originally posted his question on Jul 7, 2007, 04:10 PM and has not so much as logged back onto this site since "Last Activity: Jul 7, 2007 04:10 PM."

The one and only post from this 'tod'...
Maybe I'm paranoid, but being a new grandma, the user name makes me think of 'toddler'.. and that leads to other things.
It's never too early to pass on respect and morality to your children, or they will wind up posting threads like this one..

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_9_18.gif

J_9
Aug 10, 2007, 10:18 AM
United Kingdom England, Scotland, Wales Jersey, Isle of Man
16 16 16
United Kingdom Northern Ireland 17 17 17
United Kingdom Guernsey and Gibraltar
16 18 16




So anyway you look at it, he is committing a crime.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:24 AM
I live the tip of france... everyone that lives here consider themselves part of the uk so sorry to prove you's all rong but I am right.

Age consent here is 15 with parental consent.

O yea and scott or hueva you are... my boyfriend is not a creep.

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 10:30 AM
i live the tip of france...everyone that lives here consider themselves part of the uk so sorry to prove you's all rong but i am right.

No we aren't wrong, we were going by what you told us. However, France has set the age of consent at 15. So your creep, whoops boyfriend, appears to be safe from prosecution. I still doubt that it will last because you seem too immature to have an adult relationship.


o yea and scott or hueva u r...my bf is not a creep.

Sorry, but I will ALWAYS view a 29 yr old dating a 15 yr old (let alone having sex with them) as a creep. The age difference is too great for him not to be.

Curlyben
Aug 10, 2007, 10:31 AM
Dating at 14 is fine in the UK, BUT once there is sex then the "boy" is guilty of Statutory Rape and WILL be imprisoned and be put on the Sex Offenders list for LIFE.
Parental consent has NOTHING to so with this.
Especially for the Geographically Challenged, England is in the UK and NOT the other way round.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:36 AM
I seem to immature... but I'm not... you don't no me so you mayb can judge by my comments... I don't care what you think... ino hu I am also I no what and hu I want in my life... im not the one hu needs the advice so stop going on about us... I am ryt, the age of consent is 15 here, I did prove you rong when you z he would go to jail because he most def won't... your doubt doesn't mean it will come true though... I will let you no what happens within the next yr or so as you seem to be extremely interested as to if our relationship will work or not and I will probably prove you rong yet again.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:38 AM
and I didn't say that england wasn't in the uk I z I didn't live in england when a comment was posted that the legal age for sex was 16 in london.

Curlyben
Aug 10, 2007, 10:43 AM
Right then, for the complete avoidance of doubt, especially for our "chat speak" typing, attitude ridden teen, here is the breakdown for the island of Guernsey and Jersey.

Ages of consent in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Guernsey_.28Including_Al derney.2C_Herm_and_Sark.29)

Now babz888 quit trying to tell us otherwise in your abortion of the English language and READ the LAW.
It's very simple really and you don't have to use your finger to follow the words.
You do, how ever, have to engage the solitary brain cell to try and comprehend the long words involved.

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 10:44 AM
i am ryt, the age of consent is 15 here,,i did prove you rong when you z he would go to jail because he most def wont

You don't get it do you? You can't prove someone was wrong when they gave the correct info based on the facts presented. If you ask someone to add 2+2 and they say 4 you can't say they were wrong (not rong) because you meant 2+3. If you actually did live in the UK as you told us, then he would be risking jail. So we were right (not ryt) in what we said.

Have you ever heard the saying "methinks he doth protest too much"? It refers to someone who fights very hard to support a position that isn't supportable. That you are fighting so hard to make us think you will make a success of this relationship, makes me believe you have very large doubts and are trying to convince yourself.

I would like nothing better then that you do prove us wrong and make a success of this. I just have very large doubts that you will. And I KNOW (not no) that encouraging others to emulate you is bad advice.

J_9
Aug 10, 2007, 10:46 AM
Here's another, slightly easier to read for you, since it is obvious you have some learning difficulties.

A table of worldwide ages of consent, including US states (http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm)

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:52 AM
Country... FRANCE Male-FemaleSex 15 Male-Male Sex 15 Female-Female Sex 15


I think you'll find that the law says 15 years old.

So... you've just said to yourself in that last comment that you, yourself and you were WRONG as it clearly states in that table that it is LEGAL for a 15 YEAR OLD to have sex.

Thank you.

Curlyben
Aug 10, 2007, 10:55 AM
YOU AREN'T IN FRANCE OR A FRENCH CITIZEN !!!!!

So the LAW of the United Kingdom applies.

Now quit beating a dead horse, or in this case a dead thread.

talaniman
Aug 10, 2007, 10:56 AM
Country... FRANCE Male-FemaleSex 15 Male-Male Sex 15 Female-Female Sex 15

So go to france to have sex and then go home to jail.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 10:56 AM
>Edited obscenities< I Am Living In France... >Edited childish disparaging comments<

J_9
Aug 10, 2007, 11:00 AM
its perfectly legal in the uk with parental consent...i could b dating a 99 yr old and with parental consent it would be ok....thts the way it should be too....

So, which is it dear? The UK or France?

You just said right here you are in the UK.

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 11:01 AM
so.... you've just said to yourself in that last comment that you, yourself and you were WRONG as it clearly states in that table that it is LEGAL for a 15 YEAR OLD to have sex.


Your immaturity is showing again. You so desparately want to prove us wrong. But we can't be wrong when you change the facts. You started saying you were in the UK and the age of consent there is 16. If you are a UK citizen, then you are underage. If you are a French citizen, then you can legally have sex. No one has said anything different so none of us have been wrong (except you).

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 11:13 AM
I was born in the uk... catrick army camp to be precise my father was in the army I travelled around as his bases kept changing from catrick 2 germany... when my father died last year I moved to calais and have remained here... alot of the people living here are from the uk and class themselves as a citizen of the uk... as do I... so... where am I lying? How does that make me immature.. exactly.. wise up.. you's r the harsh immature ones hu slabber at 15 year old girls hu try to get their point across...

Curlyben
Aug 10, 2007, 11:18 AM
Shame you NOT posting from Calais really isn't it.
Not only does your IP address identify you as posting from the UK, but so do your earlier comments.
Now would you like to stop mucking us all about and admit that YOU are in the wrong.

As has been said earlier, YOU are an English citizen and as such governed by UK law, irrespective of what country you are living in.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 11:20 AM
Clearly I am posting from calais.. you musnt be that good with computers if you can't tell ip addresses apart... if I was in the uk you not think I would think about ip addresses before id s'posably lie? Exactly... I may be 15 but I am rather smart... im not such the dumbass yous all think I am.

Curlyben
Aug 10, 2007, 11:25 AM
Sorry, but I don't think you are a "dumbass" as you have clearly demonstrated that all by yourself.

Now someone with alleged smarts would know when they are on a losing streak and back out gracefully, rather than continue arguing a pointless cause.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 11:28 AM
Whtever you say... you being you would probably get a buzz out of arguing with 15 year olds... but clearly I didn't state it myself if you are the 1 that thought and thinks probably that I am in the uk down to an ip address which should clearly state that I am in france.. so whtever tickles your pickle love.

ScottGem
Aug 10, 2007, 11:40 AM
i moved to calais and have remained here...alot of the people living here are from the uk and class themselves as a citizen of the uk...as do i...so.....where am i lying?? how does that make me immature..exactly..wise up..you's r the harsh immature ones hu slabber at 15 year old girls hu try to get their point across...

No one said you are lying, just that you have been misleading. Your profile says location: In the UK. You have identified yourself as being in the UK, you still class yourself as a UK citizen. So we, naturally, checked the UK laws. You now admit that you reside in France. You don't say whether the creep, whoops boyfriend, is a UK or French citizen. But, if you travel to the UK, he may be letting himself in for prosecution because you are a UK citizen.

As to what makes you immature, I've given several examples, I'm not going to repeat them.

As for us wanting to get our point across. It is morally, if not legally wrong for a 29 yr old to be dating, let alone having sex with a 15 yr old. That is a very important point to make.

babz888
Aug 10, 2007, 11:43 AM
OK but I don't care what u think as I have z several times because I will follow my heart... so thnks for the advice but its not needed.

Curlyben
Aug 10, 2007, 01:21 PM
Question Closed !