I agree... but fat people do suffer disproportionately from that. Not to mention a slew of other problems. When you are 20 its one thing and you might get away with it for a while, but it will catch up with you by the time you are 50. If it hasn't by 40.

Hip joints and knees wear out... and before anyone says they do hip joint replacement. Yes they do but they typically wear out in 10 years and you won't get it done a second time because the risk for a bone infection of the pelvis is so great.

Like a car... the harder something gets used the faster it wears out.

Oh I definitely agree. Being obese does catch up when your middle-aged. But then again so does a skinny guy's cheeseburger and hot wing diet lol. My dad muscular and fit and looks pretty good for his age, but looks are nothing when your insides are shot.

Plenty of reason to watch ones diet. You are what you eat.

Hello smoothy:

You are not! I've been eating jumbo wieners for a long time and nothing is happening.

excon

Lmao!!

I gave up regular hot dogs years ago after I found out high fat diets is a huge factor in colon cancer. And yes, My father and a male cousin had that, Cousin had it in his 30's and survived it, my father wasn't so lucky.

Only hot dogs I eat these days are fat free.


And yeah... I did get the joke... :D

Maybe if you switch to kielbasa? :D

Cracked me up

Wrong on several levels

I don't know if sex is different with a fat girl. I've never had sex with a girl. The best sex I ever had was with a fat guy. He had a very small one too. I always got huge crushes on overweight men. They refrain from making remarks like "she sat on my face and almost suffocated me." They stare less openly and say ruder things under their breath as a rule.

You can say that body type is a preference, but how are our preferences formed?

I think our preferences are formed by a little of everything around us. Obviously what the media puts out there can shape our opinions, but simply having positive or negative experiences can too.

For ex, when in my young 20's, even late teens, for some reason I was most attracted to blondes, and some to brown hair. I didn't think brunettes looked bad, I just was naturally attracted to blondes. Dated one for 7 years. It got ugly. Obviously this has NOTHING to do with her hair color, right?

Didn't matter. When I was done with that relationship I just didn't seek out anybody who was blonde, and really, since have dated (and married) all brunettes.

Now... there is NO logic in the thinking "one blonde treated me poorly, so all will"... I don't believe that at all, and I have found some attractive for sure... its just I somehow became wired to look at the brunette first.

You say you've had a bad experience w thinner men, or at least better experiences with heavier men. OK. Now maybe there is more reason there... in that a person who is heavier might be more forgiving about body type... but still... all it took was one good experience to shape your thinking, right?

Honestly, no matter the size, hair, or whatever features you want to talk about... one of the sexiest things a woman can have is self confidence. And whenever I knew a woman was interested in me, she usually became more interesting herself... some kind of return of admiration and wondering what exactly do they like about me...

As for tying into the original question... I think a lover who can get into your head and who is attentive, while also being more than a sexual maid or butler, is always best.

Why my cousin is attracted to bigger women, I don't know. He just is. Even though he's as fit as the next guy running several miles every day on the treadmill.

Inner beauty is certainly important, but we still have our general likes and dislikes for the most part where physical interest is concerned.

LMAO... thats hilarious!!

What about the biological drive to reproduce? It makes sense that a guy is attracted to a very young appearing woman. A young woman is more likely to have many (of his) babies. Younger women are often thin, many have long legs. Magazines and porn cater to this. Big breasts, I think that's learned as opposed to biological. The average mammary gland is about the size of a small fried egg, everything else is fat, skin and nipple. It's no wonder they start to sag.

Large breasts do not ensure good milk production. Big enough and they guarantee stares and an aching back. I love my double As. Guys have suggested, many times, that I should buy myself some big ones. But then I couldn't go jogging with no bra. If you have ever worn a bra in the summer time, you would surely understand.

Anyway, I think that most of sexual attraction is biologically driven. As much as we would like to think that it's our choice. It's probably as much taste and smell as appearance. Have you ever asked someone out, who didn't smell good to you? Ever wanted to continue making out with a person who's saliva wasn't great? Blondes taste milder than darker-haired people as a rule. But if someone looks OK and tastes and smells great, isn't that part of the chemistry?

I agree that attraction to one type or another can be based on just one positive or negative experience. People are funny. They were totally weird way back when, when a thin woman was scorned as a poor baby-maker.

[QUOTE=kp2171]deep breath... OK...

My cousin likes "bigger" women. Its his thing. His opinion. His preference.

I've usually dated women who were fit. My preference. My opinion.

I understand about our preferences but I am curious: what is your idea of fit? Or anyone's for that matter--there is a nebulous place between heavy and fit. What if a woman with a large frame is indeed fit but bigger? Do you mean you like petite women? Petite women that are fit? What does constitute fit? Someone who looks like she is but can't run a mile without stopping? When you say fit do you mean thin? What if a woman is thin--seemingly fit but doesn't have a sculpted tone look? Do you look for a woman that has muscles or curves? I know this is insane but a conversation I've always wanted to have and have been very curious about...

I get what you are asking. Fit means a lot of things depending on the angle.

I've usually dated moderately athletic women with curves... not skinny waifs who couldn't name their last meal. Not necessarily women who had "optimal" weight or bmi's. My wife, for ex, is strong, fit, a runner... she works out 5+ times a week. That said, her bmi drives her mad cause its "too high"... and personally I think it's a crock much of the time.

so what is fit when I talk about my own personal attraction? Probably someone who you wouldn't look at and say that person is especially overweight, maybe you'd say they could lose a little (like most of us can at least)... someone who moves their body and considers physical health a priority. Fitness is about a lifestyle and a mindset, not just a form.

my wife is a long, lean, curvy italian girl, but before her I dated a different italian girl who was shorter, bigger, curvier, a little "softer"... she was sexy as sin too. She might not have fit the strictest visual description of being really, really fit... but she was fit, in my mind. Active physically, reasonably healthy, energetic.

so... my point wasn't my trying to state any ideal... PLEASE... before I get a bunch of disagrees thrown around... that wasn't the spirit of my original post.

I might be a loudmouth from time to time, but read between the lines before I'm called superficial...

the original post was to state diff people like many diff things, such as my "fit" cousin (reasonably athletic) who loves heavier women. Doesn't mean he doesn't find "skinnier" girls attractive from time to time.

and likewise, I know one woman friend most would call "overweight" whom I think is also sexy and attractive. A confident woman is about the sexiest thing there is.

so yeah, I've tended to take a narrower range... but there are women who are attracted to taller men only, and on and on.

one of my wife's fav greeting cards had a "hunk" in a bathing suit on the front and the words "no matter how good he looks...."

and on the inside said "someone, somewhere is TIRED of putting up with his crap"...
=)

so you need balance. What catches your eye and what satiates your mind.

I LOVE the card you referred to! Ah!

and likewise, i know one woman friend most would call "overweight" whom i think is also sexy and attractive. a confident woman is about the sexiest thing there is.

Awwww... KP, I had no idea you thought so! Thanks! ;)

Mmm... if there is a big woman... I would love it. I mean big - I don't say plump. And with them its heaven. Mmm. The look of a nude big woman is instant arousal... as I type this I am getting aroused just by the thought of a big woman.

I know plenty of men who find large women attractive, and I think you need to lower your standards if you are anything like smoothy, because its people like him that depress large people, and that causes them to overeat, and get even fatter, where as if you were to encourage, and not judge, they'd be a lot better off. I think broad shoulders are repulsive, and I think men under 6 feet are too short, but I would not be mean to you about it.

I don't belittle large women... or even ignore them... but they are not what turn me on. That's never stopped them from being my friends. They just were not my lovers.

Trust me, there are plenty of women that put down short guys, big guys... all sort of guys because they aren't what THEY happen to like. And that is NO different. And trust me... most of them were nothing special themselves.

Everyone likes something different. If you like large rather hairy women? More power to you, you are welcome to them... me, I'm entitled to what I like just as everyone else is.

Listen to certain women on the board complaining about how their partner makes love, the fact he wants to hang out with his friends, or likes to watch porn... or Ohhhhhh and Ahhhhhhhh because they think Brad Pitt is so hot but do you see them flocking to guys like Jack Black? Noooooooooooo. If people spent a little time looking at themselves rather than pointing fingers and blaming others they might see where their problems originate. And if what that is isn't clear, They can get the same answer of who is at fault by looking in a mirror.

Funny how certain people think they feel its perfectly fine to pig out on Haggen Daz and take little effort to stay in any sort of shape yet get offended and blame men because we find that unatractive. How many of you igore the buff good looking guy and go after the ugly little troll? Not many right. Why is that different? I'd bet many of those "trolls" have a more pleasant personality than the Buff young guy with an ego enough for 10 people, and a bad attitude to match.

I have to say this. I am a bigger woman. I am 5"10 300lbs. I am married to a 6'2 220 lbs man, that loves me for who I am. We have sex damn there everyother day, and he can't get enough of me.
All I really have to say is that it is the person. Some like big some don't.
It is all in the way that you carrie yourself, I think that I'm sexy so I act that way, I dress nice when we go out, and I try to take care of myself.
But I don't know this question just kind of hit a nurve. Man why can't you pigs just leave the bigger girls alone, we have never done anything thing to you. Just stop, we need some loven to.

If you think you can handle big... I guess??

On Jerry Springer their claim is more pushin' for the cushion.