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    dudleyn Posts: 1, Reputation: 1
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    Jul 26, 2003, 10:12 AM
    Desktop goes black and restarts by itself
    My Gateway computer, Pent II 350 Mhz is acting strangely. When booting, it looks ready for me to proceed -- but then the mouse is frozen and when I move the mouse the screen goes black and goes to Restart. It takes 2 or 3 tries to succeed. Sometimes it does this when working in email or on the web.

    I bought it in 1998. In 2001 the computer crashed and a new hard drive was installed.

    Any ideas?
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    heliotrope Posts: 57, Reputation: 3
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    Jul 27, 2003, 07:45 AM
    Desktop goes black and restarts by itself
    Dudelyn:

    Have you been maintaining your PC on a regular basis? Defrag, scan disk, checking for parasites (spy/adware), making sure you don't have every program in your PC starting by default, emptying your Recycle Bin, clearing your temporary internet files,etc.

    Not maintaining your computer can put a real strain on it; so much so that it can have problems like you're describing.

    Here's a list of things that should be done on a regular basis:
    • Scan disk - at least once a month
    • Defrag - at least once a month
    • Clear your Temporary Internet files - at least once a week
    • Scan your system for parasites - at least once a week
    • Make sure your anti-virus software is kept up to date - whenever your automatic update feature has new info/files
    • Make sure you install all the Critical updates, for your O/S - whenever they become available
    • Repair/defrag your registry - at least once a month.
    That's the short list, but it should keep your PC running smoothly. Here's where to find/what to use to accomplish the above tasks:
    • Scan disk and defrag should be located in Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools
    • Clearing your cookies, history, web cache should be located in your IE browser in Tools > Internet Options... > General tab
    • Programs to clean/prevent parasites (spy/mal/adware) can be found at AdAware, Spybot Search & Destroy, and Spyware Blaster (all are free; the first 2 clean & repair, the 3rd prevents).
    • Your anti-virus software should be set to automatically notify you, usually once a week, when new files are ready for download.
    • If you haven't set your PC to automatically notify you when critical updates are ready, you can go to Microsoft Windows Updates to download them.
    I saved the Registry for last, because I wasn't sure how to do it without specific software. I searched this site and found the answer in another post. Fredg's Win95/98 instructions are:

    ]Registry Repair should be done maybe every month.
    To Repair the Registery:
    Turn off the computer; or reboot; then immediately press F8, (or, could be F5) located on top of the keyboard. Keep it press down until an options window comes up, then release it.
    (If F8 or F5 doesn't work, then re-boot, and immediately press down the CTRL key, hold down until it comes up to the options screen).
    Use the up and down arrow keys on the keyboard to select "Command Prompt Only".
    Press Enter
    You will now see C:>
    Type in SCANREG /FIX (there is a space between the G and the / ).
    You will now see C:>SCANREG /FIX
    Press Enter
    This will take about 5 minutes or so.
    When finished, press Enter for OK.
    Manually, turn off the computer, wait a few seconds, the turn it back on.
    If you don't have the "Command Prompt Only" option, then re-boot the computer normally.
    Go to Start/ShutDown, then choose "restart in ms-dos mode".
    It will come up to C:\windows.
    Type in CD C:\
    It will look like C:>windows CD C:\
    Press Enter.
    It will then be at the C:> prompt.
    Then type in SCANREG /FIX
    Press Enter
    When it returns to the C:> prompt, then manually turn off the computer, and turn it back on.
    He lists a number of other things, in the same post, that you might want to check out: internet explorer question. If you need help with a different O/S (WinME or XP), I'll post back later.

    Hope this, and fredg's post, help. I just remembered I'd forgotten a couple things... like limiting your start-up programs, but this should keep you busy for a bit. I, or some other kind soul, will post the instructions for reducing your start-up load a bit later (I'm off to church).

    Rose
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    psi42 Posts: 599, Reputation: 13
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    Jul 27, 2003, 09:10 PM
    Desktop goes black and restarts by itself
    Hmm...

    So it freezes up and then reboots by itself at random times? That's not good.

    First of all, do all of the windows "upkeep" tasks as specified above, and see if that helps.

    If not:

    Could it be an overheating problem? Some BIOSes will shutdown the system if the motherboard gets too hot.

    It crashed in 2001? What happened, exactly? When you reinstalled to the new hard drive, did you use the gateway restore discs or new windows discs?


    What I would suggest you do is go to http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html and get a Knoppix CD. Knoppix is a bootable GNU/Linux operating system CD that will autodetect your hardware and won't touch your hard drive. It is an excellent troubleshooting and diagnostic tool, especially in enigmatic situations like this. If you can use the CD without a problem, then it is a good bet that windows or windows drivers is to blame. If the problem still occurs, you probably have a hardware issue.

    Note you will probably want to pass the desktop=icewm option to the kernel at the knoppix boot prompt, or else it will load a complex desktop environment that will not run acceptably on a 350 Mhz machine.


    Good luck :)

    ~psi42

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