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    #21

    Feb 2, 2019, 10:12 AM
    Instead of wasting my time knocking down your post, and it's fallacies and inaccuracies, let's just compare Obama's record, flaws included, with that of the lying cheating dufus. Want to start with the lies? They number a lot more than 13 on any given day just in tweets.








    No telling what else the dufus will screw up the rest of this year, let alone the rest of his first term.
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    #22

    Feb 2, 2019, 10:57 AM
    When he starts lying about what caused an armed assault that resulted in the deaths of 4 Americans, and the lies just happen to help his reelection chances, then come back and talk to me. For that matter, since lying seems to concern you so much, if you can even point to any posts you made at the time referring to him as a "dufus" and being critical of his lying, that would also be nice to see. I suspect you won't because those posts don't exist. For that matter, you won't even be critical of him now.

    Might add that posting mindless cartoons doesn't aid your cause.
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    #23

    Feb 2, 2019, 11:55 AM
    Naw, back then I was blasting the loony right wing fringe talking points. Like I do now, but from the opposition side of the administration. They are still there if you want to get caught up. Don't like me expressing my feelings on the matter with cartoons? It's my way of sharing.
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    #24

    Feb 2, 2019, 12:45 PM
    Naw, back then I was blasting the loony right wing fringe talking points.
    Well, at least you are consistent in that regard, but when it comes to being outraged about lying, you are predictably selective. That's why your rants about Trump ring so hollow. As I am fond of saying, it generally just comes down to politics rather than genuine ethics.
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    #25

    Feb 2, 2019, 01:53 PM
    This lying cheating dufus in office transcends politics, and borders on immoral criminality. Him and his sycophants.
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    Feb 2, 2019, 02:10 PM
    As I said, oh for the days of Saint Obama.
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    Feb 2, 2019, 02:38 PM
    I would put him on that kind of pedestal, but he done good over all. The dufus lies even when his lips ain't moving.
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    #28

    Feb 2, 2019, 02:44 PM
    Tal you really need to get over having more than 50% of the country not agree with you at least once
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    Feb 2, 2019, 05:43 PM
    I would put him on that kind of pedestal, but he done good over all. The dufus lies even when his lips ain't moving.
    You would put a repeated liar on a pedestal. Hmm. Politics first, ethics second.
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    #30

    Feb 2, 2019, 05:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I would put him on that kind of pedestal, but he done good over all. The dufus lies even when his lips ain't moving.
    Typo, that should have been wouldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tal you really need to get over having more than 50% of the country not agree with you at least once
    Most voters agreed with me and rather have Hillary, but that darned electoral college picked the dufus, but it's legal so..
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    #31

    Feb 2, 2019, 08:24 PM
    Tal- your cartoons are beautifully to the point - every time!

    You can measure their effectiveness by how much they are disliked by the other side.

    Nice work.
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    #32

    Feb 3, 2019, 08:28 AM
    Thanks Athos, I love it when the right wing noise machine has no rebuttal, but it's much more gratifying when their heads explode, because someone dares oppose the flawed logic of the arguments they present.







    Makes my point based in FACTS!
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    #33

    Feb 3, 2019, 01:00 PM
    Makes my point based in FACTS!
    You must have a different definition of "FACTS" than the rest of the world.
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    #34

    Feb 3, 2019, 01:19 PM
    "The greatest tragedy to me isn’t [Trump]. It isn’t that the person supposedly leading our country lacks a single benevolent impulse, that he is impervious to compassion, incapable of nobility, and mortally allergic to simple kindness.

    I know that he is just a mirror, and the greatest tragedy is how many Americans he now represents. ~John Pavlovitz
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    #35

    Feb 3, 2019, 02:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You must have a different definition of "FACTS" than the rest of the world.
    I think overall I am in the mainstream of what the facts are by a significant majority in THIS country, depending on the subject of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    "The greatest tragedy to me isn’t [Trump]. It isn’t that the person supposedly leading our country lacks a single benevolent impulse, that he is impervious to compassion, incapable of nobility, and mortally allergic to simple kindness.

    I know that he is just a mirror, and the greatest tragedy is how many Americans he now represents. ~John Pavlovitz
    That is a tragedy, that so many support and follow this LYING, CHEATING, DUFUS!
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    #36

    Feb 3, 2019, 02:55 PM
    That is a tragedy, that so many support and follow this LYING, CHEATING, DUFUS!


    Then it might be time for you to stop ranting and ask yourself why?, What is it about the demonrat agenda they don't like? Is it the the health care plan that is a draconian tax system? Is the the confrontational foriegn policy? Is it the debt? Is it taxation? is it pandering to the AGW wack jobs?
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    #37

    Feb 3, 2019, 03:24 PM
    No it's the desperate loonies who hate themselves and everybody else. I hope they are a minority, but they have subverted a political party, and control an agenda that's DESPERATE in my humble opinion. Another election may well diminish their influence though.

    Expect more ranting and railing against such views until then!
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    #38

    Feb 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
    What is desperate, wanting to build a border wall? Wanting health care without state enforcement? Wanting out of foreign wars? Wanting not to have to pay the levy for AGW?
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    Feb 3, 2019, 03:38 PM
    No, what's desperate is the few controlling the many. The loony right and the agenda they desperately push is the minority if you ask me, and doomed to fail with the dufus as it's champion. What? You thought our Civil War was over because the shooting stopped? No, it continues more civilly, but as noisy as ever. Evolution before your eyes, and quite messy.
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    #40

    Feb 3, 2019, 03:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No, what's desperate is the few controlling the many. The loony right and the agenda they desperately push is the minority if you ask me, and doomed to fail with the dufus as it's champion. What? You thought our Civil War was over because the shooting stopped? No, it continues more civilly, but as noisy as ever. Evolution before your eyes, and quite messy.
    Tal you live in a democracy, although Tom wouldn't agree. This is the nature of democracy, control is handed to the few by means of elections to avoid anarchy. Your nation had a choice before them, and like it or not, they chose Trump. Now some of us cannot understand why they would chose such a person, but obviously to continue the same path wasn't the preferred option. When faced with the choice of the devil you know and the devil you don't know some people won't choose the devil you know, but devil you did choose. For two years you have ranted and now the electorate has neutered him

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