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    Aug 14, 2017, 07:17 AM
    Trump, in Silence, Grovels to the Support of the Nazis
    The white nationalists, Nazis, KKK denizens and the alt-right united in Charlottesville Saturday killing one and injuring dozens as they attacked those counter-protesting against their evil. They wore their Make America Great Again caps and bore signs supporting Trump. Make no mistake - this is the core that Trump so dearly loves.

    In response to this horrendous action, Trump gave the world woosy platitudes in his comment about the confrontation and the killing. Not once, NOT ONCE, did he call out the evildoers by naming them. The Nazis were vocal in their love for Gropenfuhrer Trump. And the Gropenfuhrer blew kisses to his Stormtroopers by his silence.

    To see Trump promote a moral equivalence between good and evil in his comments has shocked even die-hard Republicans. Tens of millions died during WW2 fighting the very thing Trump has refused to condemn by name.

    How much longer?
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    Aug 14, 2017, 09:31 AM
    yup Trump should've named those involved in the violence ,the Nazi's the KKK denizens , the alt-righ..... Antifa;,BLM .Who told the police to stand down ?
    Law enforcement was on hand at the dueling demonstrations on Saturday, decked out in riot gear and looking prepared for the worst. Except they weren’t allowed to do their job. Police on the scene were reported to have been ordered to “not intervene until given command to do so,” according to the ACLU .That kept them from suppressing the numerous scuffles that broke out.
    When police were ordered to disperse the alt-right rally, that act directed the white nationalists into the antifa demonstrators, leading to further street brawls. Police didn’t seem to try to get in between the two groups or suppress the fights.
    As ProPublica reported , state police and National Guardsmen mostly stood aside and watched as the violence grew worse.
    This appears to be a direct result of what appears to be a stand down order from higher-ups.
    Were Police Held Back In Charlottesville? | The Daily Caller
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    Aug 14, 2017, 11:08 AM
    After widespread pressure from all sides, Trump is forced to go before the cameras again and this time he names the hate groups who are responsible for the killing and injuring in Charlottesville.

    Trouble is, he's a day late and a dollar short. Nobody is fooled.
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    Aug 14, 2017, 11:45 AM
    and he failed to name Antifa or BLM ;both were mixing it up in Charlottesville also .

    Yes he dropped the ball in a number of ways .Mostly he's allowing the left to define his base and he needlessly gave them a victory that they will use and exploit .
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    Aug 14, 2017, 11:57 AM
    Law enforcement was on hand at the dueling demonstrations on Saturday, decked out in riot gear and looking prepared for the worst. Except they weren’t allowed to do their job. Police on the scene were reported to have been ordered to “not intervene until given command to do so,” according to the ACLU .That kept them from suppressing the numerous scuffles that broke out.
    Why this? Did the top order come out of the WH?
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    Aug 14, 2017, 02:57 PM
    let's see now ;it was the local government in Charlottesville that decided to remove the Lee statue .....and the Governor of the State ,Democrat Terry McAuliffe who is the commander of the State National Guard . As far as I know there are no reports that Federal forces or law enforcement was involved .


    This is what you need to know about Mayor Signer of Chalotteville .

    http://www.newsplex.com/content/news/Mayor-Mike-Signer-to-declare-Charlottesville-Capital-of-the-Resistance-412093663.html
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    Aug 14, 2017, 10:09 PM
    A storm in a tea cup
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    Aug 15, 2017, 03:25 PM
    In one of the strangest press conferences from Trump yet, he defended his initial mild response re Charlottesville by stating he wanted to have "all the facts" before specifically condemning "one side or the other".

    Yeah, in case Nazi slogans, KKK signs, and killing a woman by running her down were really signs of love and peace.

    4 CEOs resign from his business council. Trump personally attacks the black CEO. Twice the Feds sued him for denying apartments to African-Americans.
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    Aug 15, 2017, 11:08 PM
    Twice the Feds sued him for denying apartments to African-Americans.
    The great expose', Trump is selective about who he rents to. In a country where racism abounds, someone found evidence of racism, it is the scoop of the century, no the millennium, So he has an attitude to women, he has an attitude to blacks, does any one believe he just has attitude? Anyone who is not Trump is a dill, right?
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    Aug 16, 2017, 05:17 AM
    His attempt to equate the hate spewing racists with the people who stand up to them was despicable, disgusting, and indefensible, and not at all surprising given his known history as a liar, cheat, and racist. FACTS have no meaning to this Dufus, and we all knew ALL that before he was elected. The surprise is those that say NOTHING, and continue to support him. One wonders what else they need to shed their cowardice, and do the right thing and DUMP TRUMP!
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    Aug 16, 2017, 05:39 AM
    Oh I can equate the Nazis with Antifa easily . Both use violence to support their intolerance . I'm not just talking about Charlotte .....they busted people up in Berkeley also to deny the ability to hear opposing views .
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    Aug 16, 2017, 05:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    The great expose', Trump is selective about who he rents to.

    I don't know about your country, but in this country (the USA), there are laws against discrimination in housing based on the color of the applicant. What you call "selective", we call racist.
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    Aug 16, 2017, 05:46 AM
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    Oh I can equate the Nazis with Antifa easily . Both use violence to support their intolerance .
    Of course, you can because you are an enabler of Trump and the Nazis. The Allied nations used violence to fight against Hitler's Nazis. Using your logic, they were equally to blame for the Nazi horrors.

    It is time for you and others of your ilk to SPEAK OUT against Trump and his lackeys. To remain silent is to support and encourage the Nazi element in America.
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    To remain silent is to support and encourage the Nazi element in America.
    And how do you not encourage the communist element in america?
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:10 AM
    Communism is not the cancer that racism is here Clete. You cannot equate the two.
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    I don't know about your country, but in this country (the USA), there are laws against discrimination in housing based on the color of the applicant. What you call "selective", we call racist.
    Yes we have those laws too, but, you can set multiple criteria, past experience, ability to pay, number of occupants
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes we have those laws too, but, you can set multiple criteria, past experience, ability to pay, number of occupants
    Trump's ONLY criteria for not renting to people of color was their color.
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:32 AM
    Trump turned away those that could pay because of their skin color, now what?
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    And how do you not encourage the communist element in america?
    When you have no coherent reply, just say something absurd. You must be reading The Art Of The Deal.
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    Aug 16, 2017, 06:38 AM
    Of course, you can because you are an enabler of Trump and the Nazis. The Allied nations used violence to fight against Hitler's Nazis. Using your logic, they were equally to blame for the Nazi horrors.
    And you are making a false comparison . The Nazi's in Wiemar Germany were thugs who also battled against equally goonish communist thugs .

    But I'll end this conversation with you at this point . Calling me a Nazi enabler is an unwelcome ad hominem insult .

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