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    Oct 9, 2006, 08:39 AM
    Septic odor backup from first floor shower drain
    There is a terrible septic odor increasing daily in my shower drain for the past week. Prior to this, I have never had an odor from this or any other drain in this five year old house. I do know that the closest entry point to my septic system is this first floor shower. One time a few years ago, the water from the upstairs washing machine backed up and poured out of that shower drain flooding my bathroom. I have read the threads on this topic, but have not seen a proper solution posted that has really worked for anyone. Please help.
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    Oct 9, 2006, 08:43 AM
    There is a built of bacteria in your septic tank go to a home care supply store and find the necessary bacterial eater... and then use is monthly...
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    Oct 9, 2006, 08:56 AM
    I have added a yeast product in the past just as a preventative... is that what you have used?
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    Oct 9, 2006, 09:56 AM
    Hey Albert,

    "I have read the threads on this topic, but have not seen a proper solution posted that has really worked for anyone."

    Then you must not have read too far. That's why there are trap seals in the drainage system. So the odor and sewer gas doesn't enter your home. Unless you have a faulty trap a more plausible explanation would be the rotting hair matted up with rancid grease from soap is causing the smell. Try this. Remove the strainer from te drain and take a hooked wire and fish out any hair that may be down there. Tonight before you go to bed pour a 1/2 gallon of bleach down the drain and let it set overnight. Next morning,( and this is important) flush it out with a few large pans of boiling water. The bleach will start to dissolve the hair and make it slippery and the boiling water will melt the grease and flush the mess away. Smell better now?
    Because I am no fan of pouring harsh chemicals down your drainage system or septic additives that I consider unnecessary let me add a bit about septic tanks. Since the septic tank is such an essential part of a sewage system, here are some points to remember about the "care and feeding" of that part of the onsite sewage treatment system.
    A "starter" is not needed for bacterial action to begin in a septic tank. Many bacteria are present in the materials deposited into the tank and will thrive under the growth conditions present.
    If you feel that an additive is needed, be aware that some may do great harm. Additives that advertise to "eliminate" tank cleaning may cause the sludge layer to fluff up and be washed out into the drainfield, plugging soil pores. Some additives, particularly degreasers, may contain carcinogens (cancer-causing) or suspected carcinogens that will flow into the ground water along with the water from the soil treatment unit.
    Send all sewage into the septic tank. Don't run laundry wastes directly into the drainfield, since soap or detergent scum will plug the soil pores, causing failure.
    Normal amounts of household detergents, bleaches, drain cleaners, and other household chemicals can be used and won't stop the bacterial action in the septic tank. But don't use excessive amounts of any household chemicals. Do not dump cleaning water for latex paint brushes and cans into the house sewer.
    Don't deposit coffee grounds, cooking fats, wet-strength towels, disposable diapers, facial tissues, cigarette butts, and other non-decomposable materials into the house sewer. These materials won't decompose and will fill the septic tank and plug the system. To use a 5-gallon toilet flush to get rid of a cigarette butt is also very wasteful of water. Keep an ash tray in the bathroom, if necessary.
    Avoid dumping grease down the drain. It may plug sewer pipes or build up in the septic tank and plug the inlet. Keep a separate container for waste grease and throw it out with the garbage.
    If you must use a garbage disposal, you will likely need to remove septic tank solids every year or more often. Ground garbage will likely find its way out of the septic tank and plug up the drainfield. It is better to compost, incinerate, or deposit the materials in the garbage that will be hauled away. As one ad says, "You can pay me now, or pay me later."
    Clean your septic tank every 1 to 3 years. How often depends on the size of the tank and how many solids go into it. A rule of thumb is once every 3 years for a 1,000 gallon tank serving a 3-bedroom home with 4 occupants (and with no garbage disposal).
    Using too much soap or detergent can cause problems with the septic system. It is difficult to estimate how dirty a load of laundry is, and most people use far more cleaning power than is needed. If there are lots of suds in your laundry tub when the washer discharges, cut back on the amount of detergent for the next similar load. It's generally best not to use inexpensive detergents which may contain excessive amounts of filler or carrier. Some of these fillers are montmorillonite clay, which- is used to seal soils! The best solution may be to use a liquid laundry detergent, since they are less likely to have carriers or fillers that may harm the septic system.
    Each septic system has a certain capacity. When this capacity is reached or exceeded, there will likely be problems because the system won't take as much sewage as you want to discharge into it. When the onsite sewage treatment system reaches its daily capacity, be conservative with your use of water. Each gallon of water that flows into the drain must go through the septic tank and into the soil absorption unit. Following are some ways to conserve water that should cause little hardship in anyone's standard of living:
    Be sure that there are no leaking faucets or other plumbing fixtures. Routinely check the float valve on all toilets to be sure it isn't sticking and the water isn't running continuously. It doesn't take long for the water from a leaking toilet or a faucet to add up. A cup of water leaking out of a toilet every minute doesn't seem like much but that's 90 gallons a day! So be sure that there is no water flowing into the sewer when all water-using appliances are supposed to be off.
    The most effective way to reduce the sewage flow from a house is to reduce the toilet wastes, which usually account for about 40 percent of the sewage flow. Many toilets use 5 to 6 gallons per flush. Some of the so-called low water use toilets are advertised to use only 3.5 gallons per flush. Usually the design of the bowl hasn't been changed, however, and often two flushes are needed to remove all solids. That's 7 gallons! Toilets are available which have been redesigned and will do a good job with one gallon or less per flush. Using a 1-gallon toilet rather than a 5 gallon toilet will reduce sewage flows from a home by about a third. This reduction may be more than enough to make the sewage system function again. While prices may vary, 1.6 gallon toilets can usually be purchased in the $200 range, far less than the cost of a new sewer system. Baths and showers can use lots of water. "Setting up camp" in the shower with a shower head flow of 5 gallons per minute will require 100 gallons in 20 minutes. Shower heads that limit the flow to 1.5 or 2 gallons per minute are available and should be used. Filling the tub not quite so full and limiting the length of showers will result in appreciable water savings.
    Is the water from the faucet cold enough to drink? How long do you let it run to cool down? Keep a container of drinking water in the refrigerator. Then it won't be necessary to run water from your faucets in order to get a cool drink.
    There may be other ways to conserve water that you can think of in your home. The main idea is to consider water as a valuable resource and not to waste it.
    Following a few simple rules like not using too much water and not depositing materials in the septic tank that bacteria can't decompose should help to make a septic system trouble-free for m, too! Any years. But don't forget the septic tank does need to be cleaned out when too many solids builtreatment system.
    With a water meter you can determine how much water your automatic washer uses per cycle. Many washers now have settings to reduce the amount of water used for small loads. Front loading washers and suds savers use less water than top loading machines. If your sewage treatment system is reaching its maximum capacity, try to spread the washing out during the week to avoid overloading the sewage system on a single day. Septic tanks need tender, loving care too.
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    Oct 17, 2006, 07:03 AM
    A "starter" is not needed for bacterial action to begin in a septic tank. Many bacteria are present in the materials deposited into the tank and will thrive under the growth conditions present.
    If you feel that an additive is needed, be aware that some may do great harm. Additives that advertise to "eliminate" tank cleaning may cause the sludge layer to fluff up and be washed out into the drainfield, plugging soil pores. Some additives, particularly degreasers, may contain carcinogens (cancer-causing) or suspected carcinogens that will flow into the ground water along with the water from the soil treatment unit.
    Be warned! Tom
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    Sep 4, 2012, 07:05 AM
    I had this happen to me a few weeks ago. I could not get anything that I bought myself to work, so I just decided to call in a plumber. I would hate to make the problem worse on a project like this. It seems like everything in my home is starting to fall apart right now.
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    Sep 4, 2012, 09:40 AM
    Welcome to The Plumbing Page.
    I had this happen to me a few weeks ago. I could not get anything that I bought myself to work, so I just decided to call in a plumber. I would hate to make the problem worse on a project like this. It seems like everything in my home is starting to fall apart right now.
    I'm looking for a question or specific complaint here and can't find any. Would you care to repost?> Regards, Tom
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    Feb 6, 2013, 12:02 PM
    I actually had a similar thing happen a few years ago. We eventually had to have a professional come do the plumbing from Colorado Springs, because the scent became too much to handle.
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    Feb 7, 2013, 08:50 PM
    I had a <a href="http://www.cincinnati-plumbers.com/our-services">cincinnati oh plumbing</a> guy come and tell me this too, and the suggestion to not use too much coffee grounds is a good one.
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    Feb 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
    I had a Cincinnati oh plumbing guy come and tell me this too, and the suggestion to not use too much coffee grounds is a good one.

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