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    jasonolson Posts: 1, Reputation: 1
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    Jul 30, 2010, 02:03 PM
    100 amp service, add a subpanel
    I'm going to be finishing my basement and needing to look at my current full 100A panel and expanding it. Currently has the following circuits:
    20A kitchen
    20A kitchen
    40A range
    20A water heater
    15A basement lights
    30A air cond
    15A lights
    15/15A furnace
    15A lights
    20A washing machine
    30A dryer
    60A garage
    Isn't the garage breaker fairly large? There is a welder outlet on 30A breaker however it's currently not used. Just a gas furnace, door opener and outlets)

    So with these 12 my panel is full and I'm considering adding a subpanel. I figure the basement lights cct I could put in the breaker to feed the subpanel so I could move all the basement lines to the subpanel.
    However, I'm not familiar enough with what size of breaker I would need to run to the subpanel. The basement finish is going to have 2 BRs (1 legal/other using for storage/closet) a bath and a family/computer room.
    For circuits I figured:
    1 15A for BR1 outlets
    1 15A for BR2 outlets
    1 15A for BR1/BR2 lights
    1 for bath (GFI... size? 20A?)
    1 15A for FR lights
    1 15A for FR outlets
    1 15A dedicated for computer/theater equip

    What size panel would I use for the sub and the breaker to feed it?

    Thank you.
    Jason
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    donf Posts: 5,679, Reputation: 582
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    Jul 30, 2010, 03:37 PM

    Jason,

    You are going at sizing you calculated load backwards.

    You start by getting the outside dimensions of the home and then figuring out the sq. footage and then subtracting out any unusable space. Then the complicated calculations start.

    I suggest that you contact a licensed electrician and have the calculated load study completed. That way you will know whether you have to increase you service to do the additional basement work.

    Also, you would then know the cable size you need to the sub panel in the basement and the correct panel size.

    If the existing service is to small, you will cause more problems than you can imagine.

    Also, as required in the NEC 2008, you are going to have to place the circuits in the basement on Arc Fault Circuit Breakers.
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    Jul 30, 2010, 06:05 PM

    Consider an upgrade to a 200 amp service... expensive, but needed.

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