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    momincali Posts: 641, Reputation: 242
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    Jan 3, 2007, 03:35 PM
    Water Heater pilot keeps turning off
    I have a Whirlpool water heater that is only about 3 years old. About a year after we installed it, we had to replace the thermal couple (I think that's how you spell it) because the pilot was not staying on.

    Well, it's happening again. When we notice there is no hot water in the house, we go outside and sure enough, the pilot is not on. We go through the procedure of turning it on, it does with no problem, but will later turn off. It may stay lit for an hour, or if we're lucky, overnight. Can't figure it out so we're assuming it's that little thermo couple again... Whirlpool customer service has us on hold forever, so I thought I'd turn to my buddies here at AMHD

    Help...
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    Jan 3, 2007, 06:55 PM
    It sounds to me like "dirty gas"... yeah, I know, that's an open invitation for a reply...
    Seriously, it sounds like there's an interruption on the pressure, or trash (very FINE particles) that are causing the pilot light to go out or clog-up.
    You need to be in contact with your natural gas supplier, not Whirlpool about the problem first.
    You should have them check everything that leads to the water heater first,(and possibly the ENTIRE house), then contact Whirlpool about a possibly faulty product.
    Just my humble opinion...
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    Jan 4, 2007, 05:31 AM
    Hi Mom,

    While it could be the thermal couple you replaced has gone bad and "dirty gas" that has trash in it I have yet another explanation. Look next to the gas meter and see if there isn't a short piece of pipe that's pointing down from a tee in the gas line. This is called a "drip loop" and is there to trap any moisture in the gas before it enters your house.
    This drip loop can load up with water until it spills over into the gas entering your pilot light causing it to go out.
    The solution is to shut the gas off at the meter and drain the drip loop. Sometimes the drip loop will have a petcock at the base but more ofter there's just a pipe cap that must be unscrewed. Good luck and let us know. Tom
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    Jan 4, 2007, 06:46 AM
    I have also seen a situation where a little bit of soot or ash formed on the tip of the jet that the pilot light gas comes out of, and cleaning the tip solved the problem. If it happens repeatedly, talk to the gas company about dirty gas.
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    momincali Posts: 641, Reputation: 242
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    Jan 4, 2007, 09:58 AM
    Thanks guys, my hubby is at work so I'll have to do this stuff myself since he doesn't get out until way after dark. I will look into the dirty gas (uh, yuck), the drip loop and checking for soot or ash on the tip of the jet.

    I'll let you guys know what happens...

    Again thanks a ton for the quick responses!
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    Jan 21, 2011, 05:51 PM
    I was told it's the thermocoupling went bad on my gas water heater I change it but have the same problem pilot light just keep turning off
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    Jan 21, 2011, 09:16 PM

    Hello Cchanilall,

    This is a 4 years old post, Please start your own thread that it will have more visibilty for the experts to respond.

    Before you post follow Tom's instructions in post #3, Thanks.

    John
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    Jan 21, 2011, 09:55 PM

    Thermocouples usually work or they don't work. If they don't work you can't light pilot light. Newer water heaters (at least some) have sealed combustion chambers with fresh air inlets. If you have this type make sure screens over air inlet is clean.

    As a test for a combustion air problem you could temporarily leave the inner cover off.
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    Jan 22, 2011, 08:17 AM


    Hmmm... not so easy to work with these newer heaters.

    If you do have a closed combustion chamber water heater (see image) then I would advise you to call the water heater manufacturer and chat with the technical department about your issues...

    Could be a VAPOR SENSOR, a THERMOSTAT (gas valve) issue, a flame sensor, a combustion air make-up issue, a clogged flame arrestor plate issue, even a battery in the thermocouple connection if you have an AO smith water heater... ;)

    Finally, if you do open the combustion door to double check for an air make-up issue then the manufacturer requires that you purchase a new GASKET KIT so that the seal to the door can be replaced to maintain the integrity of the closed combustion chamber and keep it safe from explosive vapors entering the combustion chamber, OK?

    If you don't have a closed combustion chamber type water heater, let us know that and we will advise on that.

    Let us know your thoughts here...

    Mark
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