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J_9 · Mar 4, 2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

That's why I don't go to doctors or hospitals.

This is your choice, but if you were stricken with a curable illness, would you die even though you know that it could be cured?

Wondergirl · Mar 4, 2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

For every 100 jobs here in Ohio on the net that I can access, 85 of them are for medical this or medical that.

And President Obama's been in office how long?

Skell · Mar 4, 2009, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by J_9

Skell, every time I have to deliver a fetal demise I cry, for days, as if it were my own. I can't imagine Nobama telling me that I have no choice but to participate in a late term abortion.

I have no doubt of that J9. Im sure it is horrible and upsetting experience. Just as it would be for 99% of nurses out there whether they have willingly participated in an abortion or not. But Twinkie seems to think that some nurses actually enjoy it and therefore aren't 'good'.

inthebox · Mar 5, 2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Skell

Poor comparisons. If a Dr or nurse did any of the above they would be breaking the law. Not immoral.

But what are laws based on but morals.

Now the question is whose morals are you going by.

If at the local Catholic hospital, Catholic doctors and nurses know abortion is killing the unborn, do you advocate a government that telling them what their behavior will be despite their morals?

When did the government get into IMPOSING one set of morals over another?

[ and you can't compare gay marriage to the killing of the unborn ]

G&P

Skell · Mar 5, 2009, 07:17 PM

Im not saying anyone should be forced to anything. Of course they should have a choice. But if that choice means they are no longer employable in their current position then so be it.

Your comparison to instances of doctors / nurses deliberately breaking the law still makes no sense to me.

And the Catholic Church is probably at the lower end of the scale when it comes to morals. They're outraged that a nine year old girl who was raped had an abortion even though it is perfectly legal.

Church hits out after nine-year-old's abortion | smh.com.au

inthebox · Mar 5, 2009, 10:32 PM

The rape is a crime, everyone agrees. The un born child, what was its crime?

G&P

inthebox · Mar 5, 2009, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Skell

Im not saying anyone should be forced to anything. Of course they should have a choice. But if that choice means they are no longer employable in their current position then so be it.

Your comparison to instances of drs / nurses deliberately breaking the law still makes no sense to me.

And the Catholic Church is probably at the lower end of the scale when it comes to morals. They're outraged that a a nine year old girl who was raped had an abortion even though it is perfectly legal.

Church hits out after nine-year-old's abortion | smh.com.au

YOu never answered the question though. Just used a diversion.

Do you think the government, by its power to make laws, should impose its morality on its citizens? What if you were a slave in the early 1800s?

G&P

George_1950 · Mar 7, 2009, 01:02 PM

Elections have consequences, as the beat goes on: "A proposed bill promising major changes in the U.S. abortion landscape has Roman Catholic bishops threatening to close Catholic hospitals if the Democratic Congress and White House make it law. Blog: Will Obama's nominee for HHS be able to present herself for Holy Communion?

"The Freedom of Choice Act failed to get out of subcommittee in 2004, but its sponsor is poised to refile it now that former Senate co-sponsor Barack Obama occupies the Oval Office.

"A spokesman for Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., said the legislation "is among the congressman's priorities. We expect to reintroduce it sooner rather than later."

"FOCA, as the bill is known, would make federal law out of the abortion protections established in 1973 by the U.S. Supreme Court's Roe vs. Wade ruling."
03/06/2009 - Could St. Louis lose its Catholic hospitals under new federal abortion legislation? - STLtoday.com