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Jun 18, 2009, 03:34 PM
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I think this should be here. Scotts Bay Nova Scotia. Type of fish?
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Jun 18, 2009, 04:20 PM
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That might be a young Alligator Gar from the shape of the jaw. Those things get 5-6 feet, though. I'm not sure, but it's a place to start looking
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Jun 18, 2009, 05:46 PM
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Awwww we missed the target on that one... an alligator gar is fresh water. This is in Salt water. Which I think I forgot to mention silly me... The alligator gar usually inhabits places like bayous etc.. And are found in the usa in warmer waters... I'm in atlantic Canada Also the alligator gar`s mouth is completely different. Hence the alligator in its name... this fish had a mouth like something out of the ray family (located at the bottom of the mouth, on the underside. Small.. ) Every person I have shown the picture to today (total of three people but hey it's a start) NONE of them have ever seen anything like this.. two were in their late 20`s and one was in her fiftys
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Jun 19, 2009, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by binx44
Awwww we missed the target on that one... an alligator gar is fresh water. This is in Salt water. which i think i forgot to mention silly me... The alligator gar ususally inhabits places like bayous etc.. and are found in the usa in warmer waters... I'm in atlantic Canada Also the alligator gar`s mouth is completely different. hence the alligator in its name ... this fish had a mouth like something out of the ray family (located at the bottom of the mouth, on the underside. small..) Every person i have shown the picture to today (total of three people but hey its a start) NONE of them have ever seen anything like this.. two were in their late 20`s and one was in her fiftys
Why I qualified it. Other thoughts were Dogfish or one of the Catfish family.
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Jun 19, 2009, 03:33 AM
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Sturgeon of some kind I suspect.
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Jun 19, 2009, 10:04 AM
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After googling sturgeons I found a picture of a baby one that looks identicle to it. The only thing is the dangly things abouve the mouth are not there but that could be because it was partially dried thanks everyone I think I've found it
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Jun 19, 2009, 12:03 PM
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One for flyakker
Good Job!
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Jun 20, 2009, 03:41 PM
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Yes. Thank you very much... I'm a curious gyal so if I find another weird thing I'll be sure to post again in the proper forum area :D. Saw a brown backed, orange bellied small snake the other day. But it resembled a tree snake so I'm guessing that's what it was lol... wonderfully behaved though when I picked it up, showed the hubby and released it
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Jul 11, 2009, 06:49 AM
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I grew up in your area Been to that beach a million times have never ever seen a sturgeon in Nova Scotia let alone in salt water. I would have to say someone threw it away there. I am huge into the fishing thing an am almost certain there is none in Nova Scotia.
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Jul 11, 2009, 06:59 AM
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Sir Matt.. I have a degree in forestry and wildlife.. with a minor in aquaculture. Though the only thing they didn't go into much information about was the sturgeon.. I did find out after much researching that Yes indeed there are sturgeons around here... there are Atlantic, Lake, White and shovelnose sturgeons(these are the only kinds of sturgeons in the world.) The atlantic sturgeon is the one found in our waters. Their range is The Atlantic Coast from George River and Ungava Bay in QC, Central Flordia, Gulf Coast from FL to LA and Possibly in Texas. Though upon looking at Pictures and descriptions of Atlantic Sturgeons and White Sturgeons it actually Looked more like a White then an Atlantic... Color, Bony protection plates and all look like it's a white sturgeon.. I am pretty sure that someone did not just Place this fish on the beach as there is no way to get a white sturgeon in this area at all. You don't see sturgeons often in Nova Scotia Because of the fact that They usually don't appear so close to the coast. . though I did find out they will live in fresh water lakes, costal waters and tidal fresh waters. I am a huge fisher but I usually only go for stripers, trout, and bass
*note... I just completed my minor in aquaculture after this post... we had not gotten to sturgeons when I posted this in class*
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Jul 11, 2009, 07:58 AM
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Binx44 Cool I didn't know that there were anything like that around here. Even in the rare veriety. Many of my family are fishermen from the fundy / valley area for well over 60 plus years and they have never seen one.
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Jul 11, 2009, 08:12 AM
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Ben I just ran over to my grandfarther's place and showed him a pic he actually grew up in Scott's Bay and fished from there. He told me they used to catch them all the time up until the 1960's up to 11 feet long or so.
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Jul 11, 2009, 09:00 AM
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Sir Matt.. You may call me B if B is easier then Binx LOL. Everyone else does I don't mind.
Everyone I have spoken to in my area ( I live in the valley. But I think you can already tell that LOL) said they have never seen one either. That is why it took so long to identify it. I didn't think there were any around here any more either. And they are protected in some states in the US. Matt. It was nice of you to go to your grandfather and show him a picture of it. I think I'll have to research them some more. Maybe changing water temp or some other reason is why their numbers have declined so much. I could see them finding them around 11 feet long or so because By the description White and Atlantic Sturgeon range around 12' 6" to 14' Long. The one I found was around 2 feet long. Figuring the age to be between 2 and 4 years of age. They do not reach sexual maturity until age five or six so sadly this one will not be able to produce any offspring thus lowering the chances for them even more then it already is (even though the one fish would only contribute only a minute percentage of offspring)
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Jun 21, 2011, 05:09 AM
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Sturgeon without a doubt. I've seen them caught in nets in scotts bay and watched them jump ( 6ft long and bigger) clear out of the water. Going to try to catch one this year with rod and reel.
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Jun 21, 2011, 12:00 PM
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Never seen one of those in my neck of Nova Scotia Binx! But wow, that is one cool looking fish. When my dad comes over tonight I'll get him to have a look at it and give his guess. I've seen some pretty weird looking things washed in with the tide on this side of the Fundy as well. Up towards Bass River and Five Houses.
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Jun 21, 2011, 12:02 PM
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Oops sorry! Just saw this was an old thread. Never the less, cool fish!
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Nov 18, 2011, 05:15 AM
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I do a lot of fishing along the Minas Basin and have ssen many sturgeon. On one tide at a fishing weir we counted 30 with 2 of them over 6 feet in length. There are shovelnose for sure, the White I can not speak of as I have not seen any. They are a really interesting fish and amazing watch.
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