have you ever noticed,
when watching a *good video clip while tired,
you can't close your eyes,
well,
you can actually,
but you don't want to because of the video?

have you ever tried to visualise the physical concept of the
the earth,
the sun,
the moon,
and trillions of other things in a 3d idealisation while looking up on a clear day,
or a dark, stary night?

have you ever forgotten how much it hurts to get injured,
then gotten injured,
and found out it wasn't so bad,
infact,
slightly usefull for when trying to stay awake?

have you ever tried too understand how,
not what,
but how someone else thinks,
only too find out,
it's how nearly everyone around you thinks?

have you ever believed in something sooooooo much,
too the point you feel it actually makes logical sense,
to find you were partially wrong,
not entirely,
but partially?

have you ever thought so hard your physical brain hurts?

have you ever known something that others didn't,
only too be pushed out of the picture when opposing their obviously wrong ways,
only too find out they all got hurt all in someway
because they didn't do "it" the way you said?

have you ever had a conversation with someone,
only to find out,
they only wanted to talk,
and not listen to you?

have you ever destroyed something,
only to find out you want it back,
you don't actually "need" it as such,
but want it?

have you ever sat there (where ever "there" is) and watched two different groups of ants fight each other too the death,
but felt really sad,
depressed and/or angry when too groups of humans fight too the death while only using melee type attacks?

have you ever felt sad when, say, your grandad or mother died, mabye even a sibling or parent.
but felt safer when a "dangerous" animal dies fitting the same description above thats nowhere near you?

progunr

No, No, No, No, No, No, Yes, No, No, and finally No.

Clough

Hey, coogiez! You came back! I'm glad that you did!

That's a very insightful reflection that you have written. Excellent job! I can identify with many aspects of it.

Please do keep on sharing!

Thanks!

firmbeliever

I liked your writing,much of it is true.

Just not the destroying something and realising I shouldnt have is not something that happens to me.I let go of things only after years and years of it and sometimes end up with so much junk I should actually have gotten rid of earlier.

Thank you for sharing.

coogiez

clough,

i'm glad you *seem impressed about what i wrote down in under five minutes.
although i can't deny it's ability too encapture some people, it's hardly made out of usable wood,
let alone gold,
pointless stuff that is

i was actually looking too see how many people would write like progunr.



thanks for poking me in the eye and helping me come too the realisation that the world isn't entirly full of ignorant, arrogant, abusive, foolish, naive [edit].

only most.

yeah, could have a lil clan of theorist-type people

jrebel7

coogiez, abstract thinking, which is what I classify your type of writing, (it isn't of course really abstract but it sort of sets it apart in my mind to think of it that way as opposite of pragmatic.) is understood by some and totally off the wall for others.

I am not sure you would say people are ignorant, arrogant or foolish if they read what you wrote and do not take something from it. I have friends who have had their children ask me their questions because the parent had no clue how to answer and further more, could see no reason to answer to what they considered an absurd question. The parent was a more pragmatic thinker so could not relate in anyway to the child's questions. They would answer, "Who cares?" or perhaps, "Who even thinks about those things!" I would listen and respond the best way I could. The child was satisfied after asking a kzillion more questions and the parent sat there saying, "I had no clue how to answer them." The child would feel frustrated, as would the parent. I was a child like I mentioned. My parent would look at me like I was from another planet. It made me feel displaced, like I didn't even fit anywhere. My parent was one that would say something like, "Oh, don't be silly." If I insisted on an answer, I was to my parent being even more silly. Some people have said, "What does it matter?" I tell them, it matters to the person asking the question!!!!!!!

(Perhaps your reason for posting was not for any serious purpose but I believe, whether intentional or not, you have touched on a subject that is rarely discussed and I for one am glad you posted.)

Clough

Excellent post by jrebel7 above!

Since you did post in the Writing topic area, it would hopefully be unlikely that you would get responses simply as answers to the questions that you asked. Had you posted in another area that was not so much about the arts of some kind, you likely would have just simply got answers to your question, because people would not understand that you were being expressive and artistic in some way with what you wrote.

I hope that you do appreciate that there are some people here who do appreciate the art with what you wrote, no matter how quickly it was conceived and then written down.

I did need to edit your post just a bit in order to keep within that rules of this site. Self-expression is definitely okay here. But, this isn't an "anything goes" kind of site.

We do look forward to further postings by you! I do know that I speak for a number of people concerning that.

Thanks!

firmbeliever

I am not sure why,but you seem to make the questions you asked in your poem/writing as if it doesnt mean anything or as if they are not important.

As Jreb said,there are questions that we think about,not neccessarily ask because we feel someone will think less of us for asking it.

You would be surprised to know what thoughts pop up in my head now and then,some may even call it foolish but to me they are important like some of the things you mentioned in your post.

Imagining physical hurt is not the same as feeling it in real life.For example giving birth was just a concept I used to imagine and sometimes see on TV or movies.Never saw anyone give birth in real life.Then to go through that experience by myself,it was a whole new knowledge to actually feel it.And forever after we are changed because of it.

To sit quietly and listen to the world is something we normally do not do,but I like to do that now and then.Just to listen to the world beyond the hum of electrical appliances,beyond the sounds of humans,to listen to the wind,waves,rain etc.

Maybe a surprise to you,but your post does reflect some of the things I do think about in real life.

coogiez

towards jrebel7:

from what you wrote,
i can see frustration,
and i went through that same feeling myself,
it was increasingly hard too make my parents, siblings, friends and even teachers
too see my point of view (that being "abstract" if you will).

the *fun this was, and still is for me,
is that now, when ever i think up a question,
i can answer it just as easily,
even easier then it was too think up the question itself,
which i (personally) find quite comforting,
knowing that i know most things,

subconciously.

the thing is,
even when i ask people the question i know the answer too,
they can't/don't come to a conclusion at all,
let alone care that much about it,
and the irratating thing is,
even when i tell them the answer, with logical, reasonable physical proof,
they just look at me in some sly way,
supposedly too help the keep their (higher than mine) social level from deteriorating,
and then i have all the lower class,
foolish people chasing me around and,
not worshiping me,
but trying too bring me down too their level,
so they can dissect my thoughts.

that is a more "detailed" reason why i keep too myself,
because you arn't what you eat,
but you are who you are because of others.
so i built my own standards,
and left the ignorant, arrogant, abusive, foolish and naive people out of the picture.

towards firmbeliever:

my answer to jrebel7 will help with this,

the reason why i *try too make most of my statements like,
say, jokes,
is because then all the "other" people just dismiss them as though they are,
not too attack progunr's answer in anyway,
the first post is a valuable thing, progunr used it well, (i think)
but for the other people,
they see through that cover of "simpleness" and ask me why i made the post so,
odd.

then i know they really think, obviously not even partially like me,
but close enough for me too know they have that ability too answer in an abstract way too some things.

and clough,
i can see why you edited my first post,
it's okay,
i won't make that "mistake" if you will, again.

ordinaryguy

I agree. To formulate a good question is great fun, and takes more creativity and insight than answering questions, whether good or bad, that someone else thought up.