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For his own sake, I wont say his name, but he is a retired corrections officer, now working as a security officer with me. No, I'm not his boss, I'm just someone who works with him, he and I are more or less at the same level in terms of "authority" on the job.
Any way, one day, I went on the computer in the office, while it was incredibly slow, and got some information I needed, and instead of printing it out, I wrote it down and set it off to the side. When I went to another portion of the building to relieve the other guard, I forgot about the papers, and left them in the office, however I figured it was fine, because at the end of the day I would be going back to the office anyway.
The end of my shift came, and this other guard I mentioned before (I'll call him Mr. Doe if I refer to his name again) came to the part of the building I was at so as to relieve me so I could go home. He was a little later in showing than usual, but I really didn't care. Anyhow, I got back to the office and went to get the papers I had set off to the side, but they were gone, so, naturally my first thought was, he saw them, figured it was garbage and tossed them out, so I checked the garbages, and they weren't in them. After that, I checked my mailbox, again, not there.
Know how Mr. Doe is, I looked in another mailbox and sure enough, they were there, in my bosses mailbox , with Mr. Doe's handwriting, my name written in the corner. So, naturally because it was information I needed I took MY papers back.
Basically my question is, what is his deal, is he really so bummed that he aint got any special authority anymore that he has to be the company's "rat"? Or, is he simply trying to get me fired, cause in my oppinion, no matter what was on that paper, it was none of his business, if he absolutely HAD to move the papers, the most he could have done, was put them in MY mailbox , and come to me about them like a man.
I'm not sure if Mr. Doe has the internet, or if he goes on this site, but if he does, and he is reading this message, he knows who he is, the message below is for him. Just incase there is another situation like this, his first initial is "T".
**A message for "Mr. Doe", if you are on this site and know who I am, You know who you are, could you at least come to me like a man, not a mouse**
My question is, when you sat at that computer and looked for information, were you within your boundaries? Was it information you had a right to look at and was the information considered needed for your job? Or were you at a site you had no business on, getting information that was not lined to your job?
You wrote the information down on a piece of paper and left it at your desk. Why would you think that piece of paper is privileged? Yes, it was on your desk (is this your private desk or one you share with other shifts), and in your handwriting, but you knew this Mr. Doe was someone who would be browsing. Some people just cannot help but look what is on another's desk. Fact of life. You should understand that no one leaves things on a desk that someone else could come along and take. If the information was that important, you should have put it in your pocket.
Without Mr. Doe here to defend his actions, I am not going to say if what he did was wrong. I don't know what was on that paper. To say Mr. Doe is a "rat" - I do not know that either. I have worked in places where that kind of action is allowed and encouraged - the looking over other employees shoulders to catch them doing something not quite kosher.
Am sorry I am not really on your side here and I am not on Mr. Doe's side either. I just wonder what all really transpired.
Thank you for the response, and I do appreciate your honesty. To go a little more in depth, I was told by my boss that we may go on the internet, even if seeking information for our selves, as long as its not an innappropriate site, he gave examples such as myspace/chat rooms, pornographic sites, or any site that depicts and/or promotes violence. And I was completely within the boundaries, it wasn't a chat room, or myspace, it wasn porn, and it had no violence relating to it at all. The information were a few spells I was looking for, and I'm thinking maybe Mr. Doe didn't like it, or wasn't into that stuff, so he decided to give it to my boss. However, I know my boss isn't really into that kind of stuff either. As for the desk, its the same desk for all three shifts.
Did your boss ever write that computer policy down? Not sying that he would go back on what he said, but it has been known to happen to people before. I had a supervisor who would tell her regional office heads something and would never back her staff up on it. Her famous words, "you can't quote me on that." It got so that we started to refuse to comply with her until she wrote it all down on an offical memo, so at least we had some paper trail on her.
Mr Doe sounds like someone who might not really like his job and is looking for ways to increase his value there. Why else would he take it upon himself to be the bearer of news to your boss? It could well be because of the nature of the information. Spells can be considered part of a religious practice. Work and religion don't mix, unless you work for a church or company (you know what I mean).
You can bet that Mr. Doe will follow up with your boss and ask if he got the piece of paper you wrote on. Can you beat Mr. Doe to this? Explain to your boss what happened and how you handled it. Ask your boss how he would have wanted you to handle the situation. That opens the communication and tells your boss that you are willing to learn from him and keep the lesson for future needs. I would do it that way and try to diffuse Mr. Doe. If there is a lump to be taken by your boss, take it and go forward. It shows you are not trying to be deceitful.
My question is, when you sat at that computer and looked for information, were you within your boundaries? Was it information you had a right to look at and was the information considered needed for your job? Or were you at a site you had no business on, getting information that was not lined to your job?
You wrote the information down on a piece of paper and left it at your desk. Why would you think that piece of paper is privileged? Yes, it was on your desk (is this your private desk or one you share with other shifts), and in your handwriting, but you knew this Mr. Doe was someone who would be browsing. Some people just cannot help but look what is on another's desk. Fact of life. You should understand that no one leaves things on a desk that someone else could come along and take. If the information was that important, you should have put it in your pocket.
Without Mr. Doe here to defend his actions, I am not going to say if what he did was wrong. I don't know what was on that paper. To say Mr. Doe is a "rat" - I do not know that either. I have worked in places where that kind of action is allowed and encouraged - the looking over other employees shoulders to catch them doing something not quite kosher.
Am sorry I am not really on your side here and I am not on Mr. Doe's side either. I just wonder what all really transpired.
I have worked in places where that kind of action is allowed and encouraged - the looking over other employees shoulders to catch them doing something not quite kosher.
You know what. I work in a place like that every single day. It is not nice having to look over your shoulders all the time and workers trying to kiss the bosses butt just to make themselves look better.
I would try that only, the thing is, like I said I know my boss isn't into that stuff, and maybe he might justify that as a reason to get rid of me, I just dont want to set myself up. My origional plan was to simply not say anything, and if my boss asked me, deny everything, and act like I dont know what either one of them is talking about. Then, hopefully, my boss would think its some type of spirit or something playing a trick on the co-worker.
I would try that only, the thing is, like I said I know my boss isn't into that stuff, and maybe he might justify that as a reason to get rid of me, I just dont want to set myself up. My origional plan was to simply not say anything, and if my boss asked me, deny everything, and act like I dont know what either one of them is talking about. Then, hopefully, my boss would think its some type of spirit or something playing a trick on the co-worker.
Maybe it is not your co worker.
Maybe it is a spirit or something playiing a trick on you???
The possibility is there especially where you work and the things your interested in???
Wow, I didn't even think of that, but then why would HIS handwriting be on the paper saying its mine? I'm almost positive it was him, hes done similar things before. For example, I printed out the weather report, and I forgot to pick it up from the printer, and he turned it to my boss saying I was "misusing th printer".
But I didn't think a spirit would be playing the trick on me becasue I didn't just haphazradly jump into this, I've been practicing this kind of stuff for a little over a year. I feel I have become quite friendly with the spirit world, then again, maybe the spirit world is just having some casual fun with me, showing spirits do have a "sense" of humor.
Another thing to think about--You removed your papers from your boss's mailbox. At the place where I work, the rule is that no one removes anything from anyone's mailbox unless he/she has explicit permission from the owner (and can prove that later). If Mr. Doe tells the boss that he put those papers into the boss's box and you later removed them from the boss's box, will that be a problem?
I agree with someone earlier who said that you should beat Mr. Doe to the boss and throw yourself on the boss's mercy.
Another thing to think about--You removed your papers from your boss's mailbox. At the place where I work, the rule is that no one removes anything from anyone's mailbox unless he/she has explicit permission from the owner (and can prove that later). If Mr. Doe tells the boss that he put those papers into the boss's box and you later removed them from the boss's box, will that be a problem?
I agree with someone earlier who said that you should beat Mr. Doe to the boss and throw yourself on the boss's mercy.
The thing is, I think that this person should not have put his personal papers in the bosses box in the first place. These were his papers, hand written for that matter. It would be one persons word against somebody elses. There is no proof.
if I refer to his name again) came to the part of the building I was at so as to relieve me so I could go home. He was a little later in showing than usual, but I really didn't care. Anyhow, I got back to the office and went to get the papers I had set off to the side, but they were gone, so, naturally my first thought was, he saw them, figured it was garbage and tossed them out, so I checked the garbages, and they weren't in them. After that, I checked my mailbox, again, not there.
, with Mr. Doe's handwriting, my name written in the corner. So, naturally because it was information I needed I took MY papers back.
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