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For his own sake, I wont say his name, but he is a retired corrections officer, now working as a security officer with me. No, I'm not his boss, I'm just someone who works with him, he and I are more or less at the same level in terms of "authority" on the job.
Any way, one day, I went on the computer in the office, while it was incredibly slow, and got some information I needed, and instead of printing it out, I wrote it down and set it off to the side. When I went to another portion of the building to relieve the other guard, I forgot about the papers, and left them in the office, however I figured it was fine, because at the end of the day I would be going back to the office anyway.
The end of my shift came, and this other guard I mentioned before (I'll call him Mr. Doe if I refer to his name again) came to the part of the building I was at so as to relieve me so I could go home. He was a little later in showing than usual, but I really didn't care. Anyhow, I got back to the office and went to get the papers I had set off to the side, but they were gone, so, naturally my first thought was, he saw them, figured it was garbage and tossed them out, so I checked the garbages, and they weren't in them. After that, I checked my mailbox, again, not there.
Know how Mr. Doe is, I looked in another mailbox and sure enough, they were there, in my bosses mailbox , with Mr. Doe's handwriting, my name written in the corner. So, naturally because it was information I needed I took MY papers back.
Basically my question is, what is his deal, is he really so bummed that he aint got any special authority anymore that he has to be the company's "rat"? Or, is he simply trying to get me fired, cause in my oppinion, no matter what was on that paper, it was none of his business, if he absolutely HAD to move the papers, the most he could have done, was put them in MY mailbox , and come to me about them like a man.
I'm not sure if Mr. Doe has the internet, or if he goes on this site, but if he does, and he is reading this message, he knows who he is, the message below is for him. Just incase there is another situation like this, his first initial is "T".
**A message for "Mr. Doe", if you are on this site and know who I am, You know who you are, could you at least come to me like a man, not a mouse**
But cyber-nephew Joe, Lenovo said that "know[ing] how Mr. Doe is, I looked in another mailbox and sure enough, they were there, in my bosses mailbox, with Mr. Doe's handwriting, my name written in the corner." Mr. Doe's argument to the boss might be that Mr. Doe's handwriting is on one of the papers and then he, in fact, put them in the boss's box. It would give Mr. Doe's case a little bit more weight.
If the mailboxes are not "holy", like they are at my workplace, there's no problem with Lenovo's removing her papers from the boss's box.
(I'm beginning to feel like this is one of Sherlock Holmes' cases.)
The thing is, I think that this person should not have put his personal papers in the bosses box in the first place. These were his papers, hand written for that matter. It would be one persons word against somebody elses. There is no proof.
Joe
Exactly, even if he did tell the boss he put the papers their, like I said, I can easily deny it, there's no cameras watching the boxes, no workers guarding the boxes, no one saw me take the papers out, so as J-helper said, its my word against his.
But cyber-nephew Joe, Lenovo said that "know[ing] how Mr. Doe is, I looked in another mailbox and sure enough, they were there, in my bosses mailbox, with Mr. Doe's handwriting, my name written in the corner." Mr. Doe's argument to the boss might be that Mr. Doe's handwriting is on one of the papers and then he, in fact, put them in the boss's box. It would give Mr. Doe's case a little bit more weight.
If the mailboxes are not "holy", like they are at my workplace, there's no problem with Lenovo's removing her papers from the boss's box.
(I'm beginning to feel like this is one of Sherlock Holmes' cases.)
I think you are right.
(I'm beginning to feel like this is one of Sherlock Holmes' cases.)
Yes, they were personal papers and handwritten, but Lenovo left them out in public and in plain sight, so they were fair game for anyone to trash or read or take home or whatever. Of course, the honorable thing for anyone would have been to hand them to Lenovo and say, "Hey, are these yours? I found them near the computer." Lenovo should have been more responsible with personal stuff. (But then, how many times has each of us done the same kind of thing????)
Sorry that I made you a "her", Lenovo. "Lenova" would be a "her".
I also think you should take all of the advice here given. Whether you agree with it or not. We all have different opinions and takes on it. I think you should look at all the advice and figure out what would be the best outcome in your situaiton.
You did nothing wrong. Therefore, you have nothing to deny, and no reason to ask for forgiveness or mercy.
You DO have a political problem, however. Since, you have nothing to hide, I would do the opposite of hiding and disclose everything. Here's what I would do:
Put the papers back along with your own letter explaining what you did and what you found, and WHERE you found it. Mention that you expressly did NOT want to remove them from his mailbox. (I think wondergirl is right!) He'll figure out who the good guy is. If he doesn't, it's time to move on.
You're always gonna have snitches and back stabbers around. You've just got to be one step ahead of them. Don't let yourself get embroiled into their trap. Act - don't react!
I would say be a man an own up to what you did if asked, but you have people that will try anything to hurt someone else. Maybe this Mr Doe is a very depressed person and feels that he needs to be in charge. When you are in corrections you tend to be bossy telling the inmates what to do and when he retired he feels less than a man when it comes to authority. I would say talk to Doe and see if he has a problem with you and what have yu done to him for him to be so spiteful towards you.
Yes, they were personal papers and handwritten, but Lenovo left them out in public and in plain sight, so they were fair game for anyone to trash or read or take home or whatever. Of course, the honorable thing for anyone would have been to hand them to Lenovo and say, "Hey, are these yours? I found them near the computer." Lenovo should have been more responsible with personal stuff. (But then, how many times has each of us done the same kind of thing????)
Sorry that I made you a "her", Lenovo. "Lenova" would be a "her".
Exactly my point, I would have liked him to either put the papers in my box, or give them to me. Not go behind my back and put them in my bosses mailbox. What if I completely forgot about them and my boss saw them? Then I certainly would have gotten an a** reaming. I really think he is going out of his way to try and get me fired. I dont know, maybe I'm just paranoid.
if I refer to his name again) came to the part of the building I was at so as to relieve me so I could go home. He was a little later in showing than usual, but I really didn't care. Anyhow, I got back to the office and went to get the papers I had set off to the side, but they were gone, so, naturally my first thought was, he saw them, figured it was garbage and tossed them out, so I checked the garbages, and they weren't in them. After that, I checked my mailbox, again, not there.
, with Mr. Doe's handwriting, my name written in the corner. So, naturally because it was information I needed I took MY papers back.
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