The Unforgivable Sin?

Jesushelper76 · Nov 20, 2005, 06:54 PM

I know there are many different nominations and beliefs and opinions about the subject of sin. So here goes. Have any of you heard about the UNFORGIVABLE SIN? If you have exactly what is this unforgivable sin. At the same time I thought all sin can be forgiven?

What is your take?

Joe

RUBLUE · May 1, 2006, 10:50 AM

Pumpkin yes the word has been spred for 2000 years. But that fact is, there ARE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD who never heard of Jesus Christ. There ARE INDIGENT RELIGIONS were the men go into the water & dance. They believe that is how children are born. There are NO MISSIONARIES to go to the small villages in China & spread the good news of Christ. And other countries as well. I am not trying to argue this with you. It is a FACT. I do not believe God will condem or punish the good & decent people. Anymore then the American Indians who for centuries were not aware of Christ. Thier Belief goes even before Christ came to this earth. I believe God just want's people who basically follow the Golden Rule. Love others as yourself. And put God, or whatever thier concept of God is First above all.

31pumpkin · May 1, 2006, 11:10 AM

I don't know RUBLUE. The Bible is more explicit on salvation and sin. I know that those who were before Christ (as seen in the old testament) will be judged based on their belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.( I didn't say that. I heard my Pastor say that.)

And there are missionaries in Chinese villages tooo. In fact, I heard something yesterday on the news related to that. I didn't pay close attention but it was regarding a disregarding for papal influence coming to the Chinese. Maybe I could find it in the archives and get back with you later.

aqua@home · May 1, 2006, 11:47 AM

Just a thought: Is it not possible that a soul can continue to learn after death? If you have missed God's message on earth, isn't it possible to have opportunity after death? I think it is, because as rublue says, not everyone will have the opportunity here on earth. Isn't that only fair from a just and fair God? Who says judgement happens immediately after death?

31pumpkin · May 1, 2006, 01:53 PM

While I have heard that babies are justified just b/c of their innocence and to what age a child is deemed "saved" for the same reason is something I don't think anyone knows, and maybe that's up to God only.

While your thoughts are nice......

Now who are we to Question God?

Revelation 21: 1-8
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, " Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. HE will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said," Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
He said to me: " It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magical arts, the idolaters and all liars- their place will be in the in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

So, by you saying Aqua@home that goodness be a requirement for heaven.....I think that is going to be a matter of Faith.

aqua@home · May 1, 2006, 02:01 PM

Touche...31pumpkin, I will have to get back to you on this one. Boy, this group really makes you think. LOL

Youngthoughts · May 31, 2006, 09:47 AM

I believe that commiting Blasphemy. When doing this you are turning your back complete on God. Someone who loves God want turn their back on God even during hard times. Also, I believe that suicide is wrong. Someone who ends their own live is just wrong. If you truely love and live for God, you will know that God will fix what ever you are going threw in due time, and that you have a reason to live.

Youngthoughts · May 31, 2006, 09:48 AM

I believe that commiting Blasphemy is an unforgiviable sin

RUBLUE · May 31, 2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 31pumpkin

I don't know RUBLUE. The Bible is more explicit on salvation and sin. I know that those who were before Christ (as seen in the old testament) will be judged based on their belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.( I didn't say that. I heard my Pastor say that.)

And there are missionaries in Chinese villages tooo. In fact, I heard something yesterday on the news related to that. I didn't pay close attention but it was regarding a disregarding for papal influence coming to the Chinese. Maybe I could find it in the archives and get back with you later.

It is all intresting conversation. But until we pass, no none will no for sure. Also intresting is what you said about people being judged by the Old Testament, living in that time. I know from the book of John. It is said to some effect, Jesus was by the side of God in the beginning of of creation. So he was with God when Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob were doing their teachings. I just don't know!!! The way I read & understand my bible, all God fearing Jew's will go to Hell. Not accepting Jesus Christ as their lord & savior. Not accepting Jesus, the only unforgivable sin. (???????????) The only way for eternal life. And you are right about missionaries teams in China. I will admit a lot of the information I share comes from different reliable sources, such as the History Channel. But I believe there are people who never have been exposed to the teachings of Christ. Therefore will not be condemned by God. All I can do, is the best I can do. Have strong faith, read my Bible, lot's of prayer, & TRY to be the best person I can be.

Starman · May 31, 2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aqua@home

Just a thought: Is it not possible that a soul can continue to learn after death? If you have missed God's message on earth, isn't it possible to have opportunity after death? I think it is, because as rublue says, not everyone will have the opportunity here on earth. Isn't that only fair from a just and fair God? Who says judgement happens immediately after death?

You are right, God doesn't eternally condemn people because they lack crucial knowledge necessary for salvation and have behaved wickedly due to making uninformed decisions.

Luke 23:34
Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” ....

These unjust ones will be given learning opportunities after death via the resurrection.

Acts 24:15
KJV: And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Conditions will be different then and all those who didn't get a fair chance will be provided with the essential knowledge for salvation.

Habakkuk 2:14
For the earth will be filled With the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, As the waters cover the sea.

Starman · May 31, 2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngthoughts

I believe that committing Blasphemy is an unforgivable sin

Suppose the blasphemer is insane, or grew up in the belief that the God he is blaspheming isn't really God?



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