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Old Nov 20, 2005, 06:54 PM
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The Unforgivable Sin?

I know there are many different nominations and beliefs and opinions about the subject of sin. So here goes. Have any of you heard about the UNFORGIVABLE SIN? If you have exactly what is this unforgivable sin. At the same time I thought all sin can be forgiven?

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Old Feb 6, 2006, 09:04 PM   #11  
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okay i don't know if im stupid or just can't read properly, but after reading the question then the answers i still don't know what the unforgivable sin is .
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Denying God, Denying Jesus, Denying the Holy Ghost. By denying a connection by unbelief. I think that is what it is. Although there is one person that is saying suicide is an unforgivable sin because your throwing life back in Gods face. Meaning God gave you live and you decided to take it away prematurely and that is unforgivable because you are denying the gift of life that God gave you. It is all in the interpretation though.
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Yes, thats the one. Denying the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin. Not suicide. Only God knows the heart.

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Okay maybe I sound dumb here, but I don't get the unforgivable part. By unforgivable does it mean that even if a person asks for forgiveness later on they can't get it? Like are they doomed or cursed no matter what? I'd never heard of this unforgivable sin, it's kind of interesting.
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Denying God as the creater. Unbelief..
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God is the only judge, the final judge. Your right orange if there was no forgiveness for a certain sin it sounds as if somebody is doomed. Is it actually Gods law, or human law to keep people in line?
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Denying God as the creater. Unbelief..
Okay I understand that. But couldn't you change your mind later and believe in God again? Or is God going to say "sorry you had your chance... now scram!". That's the part I don't get. Or is it unforgivable because of the person themselves, that they never get to the point of changing their minds? Kind of like the people in the "grey town" in C.S. Lewis' book "The Great Divorce". Assuming anyone has read that, haha. It's one of my favorites.

Actually it kind of reminds me of the old Jewish warning/sin not to speak the name of God, YHWH, out loud. It's supposed to bring down a curse on you or something... almost sounds like a remnant from an old tribal religion, that!
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Maybe it is. I need to read up my bible again. I read it daily growing up and as a teenager but now that I am focused on other things I spend less time reading it. I do not always go by just what religion says. So I should investigate it ,but quite honestly I think a worse sin would be commiting suicide because you are throwing your life away that God gave you as a gift. What do you think?
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Yes I agree, I think suicide is really wrong, and very tragic. But I personally think that most people who commit suicide are actually not in their "right mind" at the time. I mean usually they're very distressed, depressed, desperate, psychotic, etc, and therefore not thinking clearly. In those cases I believe they don't really want to die; they're just using death as a very extreme way to get out of what they perceive as a hopeless situation. I've talked to people who've made serious attempts at suicide, later on when they're well again, they're glad they didn't go through with it, because they weren't thinking rationally at the time.... it wasn't "really them". I think that God would would make an allowance / have mercy on someone who committed suicide because they were very ill at the time. Humans usually have a strong will to live, so wanting to die seems quite abnormal to me.

Now if someone was completely sane and balanced and committed suicide... that's a different story. That does seem like taking your life into your own hands and going against the laws of God, nature, etc. Jewish tradition actually holds that you must protect your life above all else, as it is sacred.
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I remember having this very discussion with my father when I was young(er). He still teaches in a Church to this day.

What it comes down to is what is in your heart. Yes, it is true that denying Him is unforgivable. However, only He knows when you truly mean this or not. He knows what is in your heart.

Once you have truly denied Him, you will never change your mind. Maybe because the conviction is that strong or maybe because God has removed His hand from your heart.

If you DO change your mind then you must have held Him in your heart still... even if it was in the deepest recesses of your heart.

At least that is what we had come up with

The subject of suicide is interesting. Many people would say this is unforgivable because you cannot ask for forgiveness once you are dead.... but can you ask for forgiveness of a Sin PRIOR to committing the Sin?
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