Anyway, the concept stuck with me because it made sense. God IS perfect and so is His plan for mankind and the world. By saying that His creations must be a "do over" then WE are insulting Him in so many words that He is NOT perfect. I, as a Christian, reject that statement.
So therefore all people are perfect, especially Christians! Hmmm, that explains a lot of things.....
And if people are perfect, but slow to learn, then why is it not feasible that God himself invented reincarnation as a means of teaching those slow-to-learn-but-perfect creatures? It is rather ingenius if you think about it!
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The Bible was "penned" by man but God-breathed AND had many witnesses. Can't claim that about the "holy books" of any of the other "religions" if you read the author's claims.
Have you ever had to speak on the spot and knew the Holy Spirit gave you the words at the most important time?
I thank God I do not doubt my faith. The Bible was inspired by God. AMEN.
PPS- Val- You started off with a statement of prejudice. That is entirely your own(about Christians)
No one said MAN was perfect. Only God and Jesus. Man was blameless until Adam sinned. This is the reason man NEEDS God. Because he is not perfect.
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What is there to figure out? You put your tooth under your pillow. Next morning it's gone and you get $100.00 in its place. Who but the Tooth Fairy ............
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Hey man, can you send your toothfairy over to my house -- I put a whole set of dentures under my pillow!
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The Bible was "penned" by man but God-breathed AND had many witnesses. Can't claim that about the "holy books" of any of the other "religions" if you read the author's claims.
Have you ever had to speak on the spot and knew the Holy Spirit gave you the words at the most important time?
I thank God I do not doubt my faith. The Bible was inspired by God. AMEN.
Its not very 'Christian' of you to negatively point out these other religions and faiths.
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Why not point it out? If its wrong, its wrong! Source:
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That is my point since many believe for whatever reason but the bottom line is it is only in the eye of the beholder and there is no proof one way or another that reincarnation even exists or that the reason given here throughout this thread is its conflict with the bible.
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Why is there talk about the bible when the OP was asking what we thought about reincarnation
There are some here that have used the bible to refute reincarnation as a belief, and I refute the bible as an imperfect product of mans attempt to explain his beliefs. No side has evidence for or against just conjecture and BELIEF!
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I don't care if someone devoutly reads The Bible, Koran, Torah, etc. And slams it in my face when they want to prove something, because deep inside MYSELF I know what is MY belief, MY opinion, MY way. Not saying that I haven't had a good influence; being surrounded by different religions as a kid I learned to accept diversity, and not persecute it because it didn't fit 'me'.
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By saying that His creations must be a "do over" then WE are insulting Him in so many words that He is NOT perfect.
Though I can not speak authoritatively for reincarnation, as this is not a part of my belief system, the doctrine of rebirth states that we are in fact already perfect. It is only through our ignorance of our true nature that we continue to perpetuate in limited existences characterized by suffering. Whereas Christianity is said to regard "knowledge" as the original sin, Buddhism could be said to believe that it is "ignorance" that is the original sin.
And yet, at the same time, looking only to be whisked of into the Heavens, do you not greatly disregard the Earth, also one of God's greatest creations. Buddhism also teaches that Heaven and hell are not separate, only reverse sides of the same valuable coin. Samsara or Nirvana, it's all dependent on your view.
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Though I can not speak authoritatively for reincarnation, as this is not a part of my belief system, the doctrine of rebirth states that we are in fact already perfect. It is only through our ignorance of our true nature that we continue to perpetuate in limited existences characterized by suffering. Whereas Christianity is said to regard "knowledge" as the original sin, Buddhism could be said to believe that it is "ignorance" that is the original sin.
And yet, at the same time, looking only to be whisked of into the Heavens, do you not greatly disregard the Earth, also one of God's greatest creations. Buddhism also teaches that Heaven and hell are not separate, only reverse sides of the same valuable coin. Samsara or Nirvana, it's all dependent on your view.
Thank you for that clarification, Thomas. More and more, I think I am becoming a buddhist.
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The Bible was "penned" by man but God-breathed AND had many witnesses. Can't claim that about the "holy books" of any of the other "religions" if you read the author's claims.
Have you ever had to speak on the spot and knew the Holy Spirit gave you the words at the most important time?
I thank God I do not doubt my faith. The Bible was inspired by God. AMEN.
PPS- Val- You started off with a statement of prejudice. That is entirely your own(about Christians)
No one said MAN was perfect. Only God and Jesus. Man was blameless until Adam sinned. This is the reason man NEEDS God. Because he is not perfect.
You have no proof this is true, that just what you believe, which is cool
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I thought the new ignorance was radical Islam! Seems others like to use the word ignorance for EFFECT. It shines the light on them themselves. I don't know what college y'all went to, but if you did go, you wouldn't hang your hat on such a negative word. Oh I forgot -you got a degree in what?
I don't know whether you are a believer or not Sentra- so by playing safe & generic faithwise, does that give you the go ahead to say I speak negatively of Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, any other false religions or cults I believe are out there? Yes, I can defend Christianity. But I too have to live in a world with diversity. I choose to interact (mostly in person) with all different faiths & cultures, and base that interaction on the persons themselves and how they treat me- and expect vice-versa, and what is the purpose or objective for that interaction? That is what is important. It bears very little on my own private backround or theirs(as far as what we believe our faith to be) Does that make any sense?
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