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Is it allowed for us to debate over the creation/evolution? Or if there is a God, or if Allah is God?
If not, post your personal beliefs and why you believe that.
I thought I Was Lutheran-Christian, but when I was confirmed, I truly asked myself "Why do I believe this?" And my only answer was "Because my parents told me to" I couldn't find any true reason for my belief, or anything compelling me into thinking there is a God.
I am not saying there isn't a God, or anything out there, I would like to say that there is, but I am not going to put all my hopes into something that I can't know is there, and I certainly won't worship or claim belief in anything that isn't proven to be there.
I am not arrogant of religion, I have read the bible, and I want to learn hebrew to read the Torah and Arabic to read the Koran because you can't always trust translations to a degree of 100%.
Though an interesting fact (NOT SAYING YOU ARE WRONG) there are many things about the past of the Bible that many Christians don't know, here are two.
1. The bible that is used today is one that was translated from Latin. In Latin, there is no "the". Therefore you cannot accurately say "Jesus is the son of God".
2. The bible used today also is not the full. In the 2nd century many priests sat down and picked out snipets of the bible from the full text and then compiled those small segments to form the bible we know today.
But what do you guys believe, and why?! I am interested in other peoples views.
I believe in all gods for every one has a right to believe. If there is something out there are we wrong for believing? Well I think we will find out when we get there. Maybe it will be nice maybe it won’t. I believe, do not think me stupid. People say there is no Santa Clause but I will tell you this. In my home we live pay check to pay check some times barley hang on, but every year I find a way to put present under the tree for my daughter, so let ad to list the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy. All this question will do is make people argue, and I hope that they have the sense their good god gave them to look past the argument and just answer yes or no. My answer you your question is yes I believe.
The bible we have today is not translated from Latin.
It was translated from Greek, Hewbrew and Aramaic.
Their was a Latin bible and some translations come from it, but most are from the early text.
And again, no, the writting of the text by hard was sarcred, to alter anything would have been punished with death. So not much of a chance of change. And what you had was not one place doing all of the copies,
Some made copies here. others there.
Actually the Latin adj had nothing to do with the bible as we have it.
Only the Latin bible that used to be used by the Catholic Church.
But the greek and the Hewbrew does not have all of the adj or words as English does, but the usage of words and thier orders is what gives the meaning, so yes phases can be understood if correct understanding of the lanague is known and studied.
Sorry but your arguement shows very lack of knowledge and understanding of modern Bible translations
You know I have often asked my self the same thing. Because my parents did sort of pound the jesus and God stuff in to my head as a child. I do however believe the bible is fake. There are so many contradictions and things hidden in that book and evils that are over looked and covered up. Im not the only one who thinks this way. Greenberg wrote some books on the subject. I feel a strong urge sometimes to become wicca but then I feel like if i do that Im being disloyal to god. Anyway go to this site and tell me what you think or just read the bible for yourself and actually read it. http://ggreenberg.tripod.com/david-book.htm
Is it allowed for us to debate over the creation/evolution? Or if there is a God, or if Allah is God?
If not, post your personal beliefs and why you believe that.
I thought I Was Lutheran-Christian, but when I was confirmed, I truly asked myself "Why do I believe this?" And my only answer was "Because my parents told me to" I couldn't find any true reason for my belief, or anything compelling me into thinking there is a God.
I am not saying there isn't a God, or anything out there, I would like to say that there is, but I am not going to put all my hopes into something that I can't know is there, and I certainly won't worship or claim belief in anything that isn't proven to be there.
I am not arrogant of religion, I have read the bible, and I want to learn hebrew to read the Torah and Arabic to read the Koran because you can't always trust translations to a degree of 100%.
Though an interesting fact (NOT SAYING YOU ARE WRONG) there are many things about the past of the Bible that many Christians don't know, here are two.
1. The bible that is used today is one that was translated from Latin. In Latin, there is no "the". Therefore you cannot accurately say "Jesus is the son of God".
2. The bible used today also is not the full. In the 2nd century many priests sat down and picked out snipets of the bible from the full text and then compiled those small segments to form the bible we know today.
But what do you guys believe, and why?! I am interested in other peoples views.
You are correct the holy books of the world have been altered and changed as a way to keep its followers believing and to follow the faith.One thing I do believe is we all have a right to whatever faith that we understand be cause the preacher won't be there to defend you when God passes his judgement on you,
the bible is real in that you can see and hold it yes. but its what is written inside that is not. like why does it say in one place that david killed goliath and then in another that someone else did it. and there are several different versions to the ten commandment story. maybe those things all happened but who ever wrote that book needs to get their story straight.
Air though, we can prove through science, it is seen as O2(though that is a subscript '2').
I said I wouldn't worship anything I cannot see, I do not worship air.
I don't believe in God, but I do believe we need religion. I think a lot of people stop and really think "What would God do to me if I did this?" and that it would stop a lot of crime.
No, that older man is wrong. God is essentially love, he loves you no more than he loves those rapists, those child molesters, those bigamists. There is no one group or person he loves more than another. Theoretically.
I am not ignorant of your belief, I have read the bible on my own, I have researched it and numerous other religions. I do know there are a ton of contradictions in the bible that seem to lean that it is not real, and that it was there.
It is said that religion was made up to fill in the gaps science could not yet explain because there were tons of civil uprisings because the people were scared.
Say there is an invisible hippo behind you. Is it there? I said it was, you say God is there. You can't say "well hippos can't be invisible, that's stupid" and maybe this one is. You can say "it needs to eat" well once again, this one doesn't. the special thing is that you cannot touch it or see it. But it is there because I said so.
Does that make sense? No, but I can contradict anything you say about it not being there, as you can do with God, but you oculd be accepting of other views too. I think people are pretty ignorant these days, and need to loosen up and learn some stuff.
the bible is real in that you can see and hold it yes. but its what is written inside that is not. like why does it say in one place that david killed goliath and then in another that someone else did it. and there are several different versions to the ten commandment story. maybe those things all happened but who ever wrote that book needs to get their story straight.
That is not true the only holy book that has been changed is the bible! The Holy Quran is a perfect book all muslims if they are shehi, ahmadiyya, suni they all read from one book and one book only and that is The Holy Quran. to put The Holy Quran in the same catogory as the bible is an insalt to all Muslims! If you look at history the bible has what 23 diffrent versions and none of them say the same thing. How can you believe in a religion that is hideing the truth a religion that has 23 diffrent books, your comment is Ignarent and those are the kinds of things that people are teaching other people and that is why they run from Allah!