Define God

Wondergirl · Sep 3, 2007, 03:38 PM

The Bible writers didn't wear leaves in their hair (but wearing sandals and leaves in one's hair is still a fashion today).

You can believe what you want about God. We won't put down your beliefs if you don't denigrate other belief systems and others' ideas about God. "Not putting the bible OR your God down, now mind you..." -- yeah, right.

No one has the full truth. We are all searching for God in our own ways.

firmbeliever · Sep 3, 2007, 04:52 PM

I believe in an Almighty Creator, who created all things in this universe and beyond.
I believe He is One,He begets not nor was He begotten,He is unique and unlike any of His created beings.

And yes I do belong to what most call an "organised religion", a "monotheistic faith" and it has guidance for humans his/her whole life.

I do believe in the teachings of the original book revealed to Jesus (alaihi salaam),but I am not a Christian.

chek101 · Sep 3, 2007, 07:05 PM

Wondergirl ... Show me where I put down your religion. I gave you MY opinion about my belief which I am entitled to as you are, yours. So ... Show me where I said something bad about yours. I did not attack now ... You did. Odd, but I have encountered many church-goers who behave this way. What does that say about your religion? At least I'm not a hypocrite. I don't have to pretend to abide by any dogma.

Wangdoodle · Sep 3, 2007, 07:30 PM

I define God as omnipotent, omnipresent, immutable, and infinite, and there can be only one infinite being, only one God. If several were to exist, none of them would really be infinite. I get this definition from what has been observed in His creation, from what He has reviled to his chosen people, and what has been written by those who, I believe, to be under the inspiration of God.

Yes, I am one of those who trust those who have gone before me. I am not afraid to “stand on the shoulders of giants”, for it does not leave me cold.

inthebox · Sep 3, 2007, 08:25 PM

Chek101:

I believe God created everything, is perfect, righteous, and loving.

I believe God gave mankind freedom to obey or disobey Him.

I believe God wants each and everyone of us to have a personal relationship with Him.
He did this through His son, Jesus Christ, who was humiliated, suffered, crucified, died, and resurrected, for the salvation of mankind.

If you desire a different angle to look at God, consider reading

Amazon.com: The Jesus I Never Knew: Books: Phillip Yancey

Grace and Peace

deist · Sep 5, 2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chek101

Once I was asked if I believe in God, I replied "Define God!" A reply that elicited a look of surprise. I, personally, don't buy much of what I've read in the bible since the bible was written by man. Man as you know is a cunning creature, loaded with vanity, and a war-like, pitifully God-like nature. Back when men wore thongs: sandals and leaves in their hair and where The Today Show show featured feeding folks to the lions, well ... Why would I believe text written by people of such a barbaric era? My opinion of the bible is that it was just another way to pen people in, keep them under control. I certainly couldn't have met any of these writers in perosn. I have to tell you, I place a whole lot of credence on body language and eye contact. Words alone don't do it for me. I need to see with my heart's eyes what's behind the words.

As to "Do I believe in God?" Yes, I do! Just not the one written about. My God is an "always was" and "always will be" kind of entity for lack of a better word. Take the universe for example: what a realm of magnificence that is ... A design fully far and away above "perfect" even in the sectors where utter chaos rules. Everything about the way it works suggests a master plan, and behind every master plan, there has to be a master. Reality doesn't work any other way. At least not for us mortals it doesn't. We are limited by a myopic mortal scope. Which is why the masses NEED to believe in something "less work" like maybe ... The bible - where credos are laid out for you. I am renegade in that. I believe more in what I hear coming from inside me and what I pick up in the air.

I equate the writers of the bible to modern day paparazzi or reporters; taking events, shadowing resemblance to the truth, and shaping it so it jells with their own belief system. When it is then pulp-fed to the public by the truck loads. I think I'll stand with the gut on this one. What about you? Do you really believe the stories in bible? Is that how you imagine your God? I am curious about the people who abide this typical wide-spread acceptance. Not putting the bible OR your God down, now, mind you ... I'm just stating my own views on this. What's yours?

As my name indicates I believe the tenets of deism. I don't believe God can be defined. The only thing I can surmise about God,is only, that God Is wise & powerful enough to create a universe, nothing more about God can be known. All religions, & perhaps even all philosophies are based on faulty assumptions, even myths, But personally I go by deism.

Fr_Chuck · Sep 5, 2007, 07:44 PM

I don't define God, God is not ours to "define" in doing that you are either putting limits or some tag on God that is man made.
God is more than that, more than I could think. God made all and is all, he is everything to us and has allowed us to know parts and bits and pieces of his extreme and his absolute power and might.

Wondergirl · Sep 5, 2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chek101

Do you really believe the stories in bible? Is that how you imagine your God? Not putting the bible OR your God down, now, mind you ...

These are put-downs -- "do you really believe...?" (i.e., you are that stupid to believe...?) "Is that how you imagine your God?" (i.e., that's sure a dumb way to imagine God, the way you do it...") "Not putting the bible OR your God down..." (i.e., "Actually I am because I can't imagine how anyone can believe..."

You don't know what I believe or if I even go to church. Please don't jump to conclusions in your haste to prove your point.

Fr_Chuck · Sep 5, 2007, 08:03 PM

And I will agree with Wondergirl, your comments about "do you really believe the stories" is an insult and from your comments appears you intended it to be. And then to futher insult her with the dogma attack was uncalled for and unjustified.

I will tell you up front, you are viewed by your posts and your interaction with others. If you want to have future discussions with people, then asking about something you don't believe in, only to demean those answering will soon get you with no one answering your posts.

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