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Old Jul 20, 2007, 12:22 PM
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Atheists do not believe,How?

As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!

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Old Nov 2, 2007, 09:11 AM   #611  
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I never said that I didn't. But comparing apples to dump trucks doesn't make a logical argument to the alternative.
I agree. Comparing the matter that the big bang and the universe was born from with a fictional character doesn't make sense. I guess I'll just start acting like some of the people here and refuse to see that while somthing isn't important to me, it may be to someone else.

Hey I can think of other people who saw things they didn't like as inferior. They were called nazis.
 
 
     
 
 
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Even Darwin agreed that if there was one thing that proved him wrong he'd throw out the theory. He was always puzzled by the complexity of the eye and the peacock's feather. He wrote an essay stating that he could not account for these things, yet this is not common knowledge.
Like all good scientists, Darwin was happy to entertain contrary evidence. All (good) scientists consider that their hypothesis may be wrong and they look for facts that could prove it wrong. But while Darwin spent years looking for holes in his own theory, he believed that it was fundamentally correct, which it was. It has been confirmed over and over again. Darwin wanted to know how inheritance works--because DNA and genes hadn't been discovered yet. But he did not think the peacock's tail or the eye disproved his theory. If you are saying he doubted his own theory, that's not true.

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Evolution explains nothing. The sooner you realize that, the better.
the sooner you realise that it does make sence when you think about it the better, but i think we both know that you wont even consider the possibility, tell me im wrong
 
 
     
 
 
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And maybe you will as well.
Sorry, I don't worship anything. What am I meant to realise about worshipping nothing? That nothing is not a true God? What are you trying to tell me?
 
 
     
 
 
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Have you ever read the origin of species? He goes on to suggest a way that the eye could have evolved a few pages after suggesting that it might be puzzling. He uses the same kind of asking a question then giving an answer throughout the whole book, it's the way he wrote. He was not puzzled by the eye.
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Sorry, I don't worship anything. What am I meant to realise about worshipping nothing? That nothing is not a true God? What are you trying to tell me?
Obviously your blind devotion to science as the end-all/be-all of answers is a form of worship. So now you're saying science is nothing?
 
 
     
 
 
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the sooner you realise that it does make sence when you think about it the better, but i think we both know that you wont even consider the possibility, tell me im wrong
And the same can apply to you, once you consider how little sense it actually makes.
 
 
     
 
 
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I agree. Comparing the matter that the big bang and the universe was born from with a fictional character doesn't make sense. I guess I'll just start acting like some of the people here and refuse to see that while somthing isn't important to me, it may be to someone else.

Hey I can think of other people who saw things they didn't like as inferior. They were called nazis.

Comparing people who don't believe in evolution to nazis....that is absurb for one but childish. It seems to me you are the one that can't handle differentiating opinions?

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silentrascal : Very much in agreement. Good response!
 
 
     
 
 
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Obviously your blind devotion to science as the end-all/be-all of answers is a form of worship. So now you're saying science is nothing?
Scientists are committed to thinking things through based on evidence--information that can be measured accurately and verified. That is, everybody sees the same thing. So if I go outside and measure how bright the sky is today and 50 other people measure it and get the same number, we can all agree on how bright the sky is. This is the same way everybody operates normally every day.

If every time you take a certain freeway, you get caught in heavy traffic, you'll conclude that it's a bad way to go and take another route. It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian or an atheist. So science is just taking that way of thinking and formalizing it. You can call it "worshipping" science, but it's not any different from the way other people think in their practical day to day lives.

Where scientists differ from believers is in NOT taking some things on faith. If a friend tells us that the freeway is always clogged at 4 o'clock but it never is when we go on the freeway, we'll ignore their assertions instead of taking it on faith, EVEN if the friend says that God told them it was true.
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Capuchin agrees: Not worshipping is not a form of worship.
silentrascal : And denying it doesn't mean it's not worship.
 
 
     
 
 
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And the same can apply to you, once you consider how little sense it actually makes.
i rest my case
 
 
     


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