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Old Jul 20, 2007, 12:22 PM
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Atheists do not believe,How?

As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!

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Old Nov 2, 2007, 05:29 AM   #541  
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Basically "big bang" says that there was a big explosion from gases and whatever.......now how did those gases or materials come about? Were they simply always there? It offers no answers for that, just the blind conjecture that these things were there, they came together, and BANG. Evolution, depending on which person you're discussing it with, says that everyone came together after billions of years of being in some primordial soup......yet it doesn't explain where those elements came from, again assuming they were just always there. People put a lot of stock into these ridiculous theories and push and push and push them as fact simply because scientists word these things in a way so as to make them sound intelligent and plausible.
And the same can be said about religions,Who is pushing what?

By examination,study,factual evidence,and experiences in our lifetimes,documented and validated,even by the non scientific society, we can see evolution in process.Including the 'theory' looked at concerning the 'Big Bang'

Education and research are not 'ridiculous theories',they are based on fact, not concept.

To have bias towards the scientific community is shortsighted,not taking all possibilities into account,again, who is right? the creationist or the evolotionist,one is FACT, one is CONCEPT.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Nov 2, 2007, 05:29 AM   #542  
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Yes it does. Go study it yourself.....and forget the discussion.

I have been studying it for the past 6 years. You're wrong, sorry. I knew that the opportunity for an intelligent discussion would be one that you would happily ignore.

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This is getting fun now
 
 
     
 
 
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And the same can be said about religions,Who is pushing what?

By examination,study,factual evidence,and experiences in our lifetimes,documented and validated,even by the non scientific society, we can see evolution in process.Including the 'theory' looked at concerning the 'Big Bang'

Education and research are not 'ridiculous theories',they are based on fact, not concept.

To have bias towards the scientific community is shortsighted,not taking all possibilities into account,again, who is right? the creationist or the evolotionist,one is FACT, one is CONCEPT.

I think you should realise that both evolution and creationism are theories. Just like Newtonian gravitation and General Relativity are both theories. Just that one fits the evidence more closely, makes more meaningful predictions etc than the other.
 
 
     
 
 
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I completely agree You guys may have differing opinions but at least you have them. Many people dont

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Old Nov 2, 2007, 05:46 AM   #546  
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There you go again. You'd get a lot better reception for your ideas if you could just avoid that word "all" when referring to people. Stick with "I" or "some" and you'll be amazed at how much more receptive people will be. Try it. The next time you're tempted to write "we will all" or "we are all" or "we all have" such and such, just say "I" instead. What you believe goes for you, and those who agree with you. Nobody else.


Thank you for your fantastic insight about how to respond...obviously what I write is what I believe and I believe all will be judged by the one true and just God. I am not going to compromise the use of the word all to not offend you or someone else. That is what I believe and that is how I wanted it to come across. You or anyone else can receive me however they want to.

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There is no need to be nasty to people is there? We're all good people and all deserve respect
 
 
     
 
 
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I have been studying it for the past 6 years. You're wrong, sorry. I knew that the opportunity for an intelligent discussion would be one that you would happily ignore.

No, I'm not wrong, whether you think so or not. It makes no difference to me whether you studied it for 5 minutes, 6 years, or 30 years. Your condescending tone and arrogance do not lend an air of credibility to your statements. It appears you likewise ignore such opportunity for intelligent discussion.

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No, I'm not wrong, whether you think so or not. It makes no difference to me whether you studied it for 5 minutes, 6 years, or 30 years. Your condescending tone and arrogance do not lend an air of credibility to your statements. It appears you likewise ignore such opportunity for intelligent discussion.
do you have to turn everything into an argument

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do you have to turn everything into an argument

I'm sure that question is posed to the wrong individual. My responses are to the one(s) starting the argument.

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Capuchin disagrees: Stating that you are wrong is not a rude remark. It is a plain fact.
 
 
     
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