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As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!
As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!
Thanks in advance.
It is a very strange point of view, athiesm, considering there's no logic behind it. Nobody would say "there's no Creator" if they happened to come upon a fully-stocked, temperature controlled home during a walk through the woods.....so why would someone say "there's no Creator" when you take a look at this planet, or look closer at the various cycles of the planet, or even the various systems of the human body. How can someone logically say that there was no intelligent creator or designer behind these things? It's a point of view that people ARE entitled to have, but it really doesn't appear to be any kind of logical rationale behind it.
Logic and religion do not go hand in hand, and they never will. If you choose to not get educated in evolution and physics and chemistry then that is your choice of course. Not understanding something does not logically mean that there is a god.
It is a very strange point of view, athiesm, considering there's no logic behind it. Nobody would say "there's no Creator" if they happened to come upon a fully-stocked, temperature controlled home during a walk through the woods.....so why would someone say "there's no Creator" when you take a look at this planet, or look closer at the various cycles of the planet, or even the various systems of the human body. How can someone logically say that there was no intelligent creator or designer behind these things? It's a point of view that people ARE entitled to have, but it really doesn't appear to be any kind of logical rationale behind it.
On the contrary,I see it as;
Science has proven the changes in human physiology,adapting to environmental needs,from eating fruits and nuts, to red meat.
Science shows,humans adaptation to survival in the arctic as well as the tropics,and succeeding in both places.
Are these an act of a higher power?A believer will think so,an atheist will say no its just evolution.
Look at the Milky way Galaxy and say this is a creation of a supreme being,and the atheist says,its natural evolution,science can show this.But religion asks to accept on words or preachings that this is creationism,Science is factual,religion is concept, Where is the logical thinking you are lost on? Facts are facts, Concepts are interpretation.
Science has proven the changes in human physiology,adapting to environmental needs,from eating fruits and nuts, to red meat.
Science shows,humans adaptation to survival in the arctic as well as the tropics,and succeeding in both places.
Are these an act of a higher power?A believer will think so,an atheist will say no its just evolution.
Look at the Milky way Galaxy and say this is a creation of a supreme being,and the atheist says,its natural evolution,science can show this.But religion asks to accept on words or preachings that this is creationism,Science is factual,religion is concept, Where is the logical thinking you are lost on? Facts are facts, Concepts are interpretation.
Sure, science can back up the facts of creation, but it cannot back up guesses as to everything coming about by chance, by the ridiculous theory of evolution, or by some big bang. Fact is that all of these things discussed CANNOT come about by mere chance.
Sure, science can back up the facts of creation, but it cannot back up guesses as to everything coming about by chance, by the ridiculous theory of evolution, or by some big bang. Fact is that all of these things discussed CANNOT come about by mere chance.
Have you tried to create life by mere chance over several billion years? I can tell you that nobody ever has, and so what you state as "fact" is in fact nothing of the sort. It's your own assertion, an assertion that I suggest is logically inept.
Have you tried to create life by mere chance over several billion years? I can tell you that nobody ever has, and so what you state as "fact" is in fact nothing of the sort. It's your own assertion, an assertion that I suggest is logically inept.
I have common sense and intelligence, and those things along say that you can have something come out of nothing all by itself. Pure impossibility. Logically inept would be to claim that life, this planet, and the universe came out of some chance combination of chemicals or "ooze" over billions of years and simply discounting that an intelligent creator made all things because the idea is too easy for arrogant scientific "experts" to accept.
It annoys me when people think they have a religion that only applies to them.
Have you thought about why it annoys you? Could it be because you want to apply your conclusion that you are "a fortuitous arrangement of salty water" to everybody else as well? Doesn't it give you pause to find yourself in bed with mountain man on this one?
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If there is one true religion, then it will apply to all of us, and if there is no true religion, then the fact that we are nothing more than a fortuitous arrangement of salty water applies to all of us.
How can you (and mountain man) be so very sure that these are the only two possibilities? Of course, the logical mind loves unambiguous distinctions and mutually exclusive alternatives, but reality is often messier than that. I see a vast continuum between these two extremes.
I have common sense and intelligence, and those things along say that you can have something come out of nothing all by itself. Pure impossibility. Logically inept would be to claim that life, this planet, and the universe came out of some chance combination of chemicals or "ooze" over billions of years and simply discounting that an intelligent creator made all things because the idea is too easy for arrogant scientific "experts" to accept.
Where do the theories of the big bang, or evolution, or abiogenesis state that something comes out of nothing?
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