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As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!
"Many self-described atheists are skeptical of all supernatural beings and cite a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities."
Being spiritual implies belief in spirits (human spirit, human soul) which would be a supernatural being. I personally have never met an atheist who believes in such things. Lots of people say they are atheists when really, they're agnostic. Regarding your comment about the "energy in the universe that brings enlightenment and awareness" again, you're talking about something supernatural. Sure there's energy in the universe, just not the kind you are describing.
And my point was, what does that have to do with religion???
Because to an atheist there's no difference between religion and spirituality. It's all a bunch of hooey with no scientific backing. If you are an atheist, by definition, you CAN'T believe in the human soul or spirit.
If Karma thinks that you can be truly happy without God, than that of course is incorrect, and if offends than so be it.
You can not say this...this is where you are demeaning others ways that are not your own. You got upset at Excon for him saying that it was pretending and then you go and say something like this. You or no one on earth can tell another person that their beliefs are wrong or incorrect. You do not know beyond a doubt that your way is THE way....you BELIEVE it is...as I have said before in this thread. belief and fact are two very different things.
I am not atheist, but my husband is, and I understand their beliefs, even though i do not necessarily agree with them...but I will be the last person to tell them they are wrong. I respect others too much.
In my religion we are open to all forms of religion, beliefs, and spiritual enlightenment.
I was raised Christian and was confused, but happy. I am no longer Christian and lead a very happy life as does my family. I dont think either way can be the root of happiness...our actions are the root to this.
I am philosophically an agnostic, but for all intents and purposes I'm an atheist. One thing I find strange about myself is that I will still knock-on-wood. I do not believe something will happen if I don't, but I do it anyway. My girlfriend, who is quite religious, finds this rather amusing.
Anyway, I agree with the earlier posts, way back on page one, that I simply do not have the capacity to believe. I went to church for 16 years, but never actually remember believing what was preached. Anyway, I just find the whole idea of God (in the Christian sense anyway) absurd. However, I do still knock-on-wood
The post was in response two the two previous, it was A SHOT if you will at the previous posters (ex-con & Karma) you see i combined what Karma wrote with what excon wrote, so technically they said those first and are equally as guilty as myself, actually moreso. Obviously this has been lost on 2 of you, firsty yourself for jumping into conversations without reading the entire structure, and on Karma who obviously did not notice the word play and yet still casts insults "narrow minded" yet goes completely unaware of her own doings. If u want to start arguments than PLEASE PAY ATTENTION, otherwise u just look bad
The narrow-minded comment had nothing to do with the 'wordplay'. It mostly has to do with the impossibilty of understanding how people can be happy for other reasons than believing in your god. I'd like to think we can all get along and my friends and workmates are, well actually I don't know or care what their beliefs are because they are all good, (mostly) happy people regardless of what they believe.
edit to add: your misspelling of the poster's name on purpose was quite immature.
I understand that it is all a bunch of hooey, or whatever, to people who are an atheist. However, just as they are so sure that there is nothing other than the existence they are in, so are those that are so convinced that God created the world. The only difference is what each person believes. Athiests have the faith to say this is it, but what else are they going by? NO different than a religious person. Faith in nothing is still faith.
So, my point is, why does everything have to be either or? Why do people have to label themselves in a particular way, or anyone else for that matter. We know one thing, we just don't know where we go when we die, or what happens to us. Can we agree on that? I wasn't attacking what an atheist believes, simply stating that one could be spiritual, without being religious. (label not included) I myself don't live by such strict standards of defining what I think or believe .That is the danger in religion, or in being atheist in my opinion.
NOthing is definite, we all know we are limited in our understanding of this existence. How we choose to perceive it is what makes us unique human beings. How extraordinary life is, no matter how we got here or where we are going.
Quite funny as well, ALSO, perhaps you should not cast insults or slights and then turn around and suggest others are being immature, start a topic on that!
Once again, did i ever write you can only be happy if you beleive in God, or did i write you can be HAPPIER beleiving in God. All the posts refuting my posts are b/c it seems as if you are trying to make what i'm saying into something you take offence at OR are not reading the structure carefully enough. Either way you are not fully understanding the quite simple point I was saying. AS for this topic, it is over, we will not agree and you will continue to cast insults and mispell peoples names on purpose, so we shall end it here, beleive what you would like b/c i am truly happy for you.
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