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Old Jul 20, 2007, 12:22 PM
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Atheists do not believe,How?

As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 08:25 AM   #31  
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YES, how is that taking issue with the fact you don't beleive. My beleif is that the truly happy are those that belive in God, are u taking offence at the fact that i am saying your not happy, cause thats not what i mean. I beleive spiritually that you reach a happiness through faith which can only be acheived through God. O.k so you are happy great, am i happier than you, I have no clue, were the saints happy, yes they were. This is a spiritual debate, one that cannot determine whether you are happier than say i am or not, it surely goes a little deeper than the previous persons comment about "that proves it". Please see that, and ironically it seems you have a bigger issue understanding my beleif than i have understanding yours.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Aug 14, 2007, 08:28 AM   #32  
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ALSO, to excon:

Saying that would you be happier if you started "pretending" in things is to suggest that those that beleive are pretending, which is very insulting to the many that do beleive in something. I do not cast insults at you beleif system and ask thesame out of you.

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The issue is that you profess only you can only be truly happy if you believe in God. That of course is incorrect. There are a lot in very unhappy believers in God, what the hell happened to them?
 
 
     
 
 
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Hello again, BMI:

Boy, I sure didn't intend to insult anybody. I know that if you did what I was talking about, you'd call it praying. I know you'd believe it too, and I'm happy for you.

But, from MY vantage point, were I to do it, I couldn't call it anything else BUT pretending. If that offends you, so be it.

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Fair enough my man, i guess we can cool it on that point, If Karma thinks that you can be truly happy without God, than that of course is incorrect, and if offends than so be it.

LAST POINT: How ironic is it that your user name would have the word karma in it?
 
 
     
 
 
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Why does everything need to be in black or white? Why does religion have to be included in order to understand a greater existence? Why can an atheist not be spiritual and be connected to the energy in the universe that brings enlightenment and awareness?
I am spiritual, I grew up religious and my sister is an atheist, and so is my best friend. I think that it partly has to do with a fear of the unknown and the mystery of life cannot be solved. So, the answer is to say, there isn't anything after this life. How do they know? How can they be so sure? Just as someone who is religious can't be sure, they go on their faith. So an atheist has "faith" that there is nothing after this life, no continuation into the next existence. (Not including a "heaven")

Ever read a Conversation with God? It is an interesting book, not religious and it puts things into perspective when deciding is God within us and are we really God. Yes, it puts the responsibility on us, to live a life that is loving and compassionate. Not everyone wants that responsibility.

Keep an open mind to what you don't know and don't understand.

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bushg agrees: Neale Donald Walsh, says he has conversations with God, Is this the book you are referring to?
 
 
     
 
 
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I don't really have a point here. I'm not an atheist, but I can understand how they reached their conclusions, and I'm cool with that.

I do want to point out, though, that the only religion that is truly bothered by the idea of atheism is Christianity. At least, the only people I've ever been around that seemed bothered by it in the least were Christians.

I find that interesting.

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Skell agrees: Yes. Alot of Christians seem very offended by it!
 
 
     
 
 
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Why can an atheist not be spiritual and be connected to the energy in the universe that brings enlightenment and awareness?
For the same reason we don't call a boat a fire truck. Because the definitions don't match up. Change "atheist" to "agnostic" and you're on to something.
 
 
     
 
 
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UMM no, what does being spiritual have anything to do with religion? It only does if you yourself are religious.
Yes Synn, you are right. I have nothing against anyone who believes whatever they believe. I just think faith in nothing, is still faith, right??

Religion puts people into categories and makes rules to make people feel safe and to know how to live their life.

Spirituality has to do with being connected to the universe and its energy, yes the Universe has its own natural laws, but they are not religious by any means.

Call it what you want, but the definition of religion and spirituality are NOT the same, so they wouldn't match up.
 
 
     
 
 
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I don't really have a point here. I'm not an atheist, but I can understand how they reached their conclusions, and I'm cool with that.

I do want to point out, though, that the only religion that is truly bothered by the idea of atheism is Christianity. At least, the only people I've ever been around that seemed bothered by it in the least were Christians.

I find that interesting.
I am a muslim I am not personally against atheism (each one is responsible for his own choices),but I do believe in the fact that denial of the Creator will have its consequences on the person (whether in this world or the next).

A muslims main belief being the belief and submission to One and Only God,without associating partners.

This is not a point for arguement,just stating my belief.
 
 
     


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