As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!

Thanks in advance.

michealb

There might be a few atheists that choose to be so because of those reasons but certainly not any large percentage. Most don't believe in god in the same reason you don't think Santa Clause is real. Simply the evidence for god just isn't there. It's one of the reasons that as education increases so does the number of atheists in a society, many religions such as the Amish limit the amount of education that there members get so that they can better control them.

BMI

Interesting topic.

Sadly enough my view is on the agnostic or atheist is that of their own life experience. I mean many people who do not beleive are people that have had hard times and blame GOd for their misfortunes. I have had a hard life and nothing comes to me but goes to everyone else and it is not fair, well few people live a life these days consistent with what the bible teaches us. I truly beleive that if followed strictly the Bible leads to happiness we never knew possible, including the parts about giving what you have away, the more you practise the more the existence of GOD becomes evident, the further you are away from "good" the further youmove away from GOD. I think the unbeleiver struggles with that, God does not move away from us, we (by our own decisions and actions) move away from him and then the blame game begins. Whew, got a little carried away

NeedKarma

Actually I find that it quite the opposite. Most ardent believers seem have had some form of trauma and/or abuse in their lives and religion is their coping mechanism. People who have had a great childhood and a good education are more likely to be atheist/agnostic in my opinion.

BMI

That may require an explaination. I do beleive we all question faith when we fall on bad times, thats normal. HOWEVER, personal events go a LONG way in determining how you view God. I doubt the truly happy beleive in nothing, i just can't accept that.

jillianleab

Sorry bud, gotta disagree with you here. I'm truly happy, my husband is truly happy and we don't believe. Same with a lot of my friends. I can honestly say that aside from superficial things (bigger house, nicer car), I wouldn't change a single thing about my life. I'm proud of what I've done, I'm proud of what I'm doing, I have a family who loves me, I have a really, really great life. I've doubted the existence of god since I was a kid; I remember being really young and thinking, "this just doesn't make sense to me". It took a few years to realize that had a name, but I never subscribed to the religious line of thinking. It had nothing to do with tragedy in my life, not at all. It just never added up, even in my 5-year-old brain.

You seem to think atheists are people who hate god; maybe some do, but most don't. It's hard to hate something you don't believe in... I mean, do you hate the Tooth Fairy?

BMI

I cannot prove whether you are at a level of happiness in relation to the level one would feel by just knowing there is a GOD and so there's where our debate can go no further. I DO not think atheists hate God, I guess it seems likea crazy idea to them, thats all. My point was that when you do beleive the more reasonable the existence of a God becomes, to the point where you cannot imagine anyone NOT beleiving, thats all.

As for you last question, yes I do hate the tooth fairy, the stiffed me on my wisdom tooth

NeedKarma

That's the vexing part, we can understand the other side (believers) but you refuse to understand anyone who is not like you. Why is that?

BTW my family is truly happy, so are millions of others who are not like you.

BMI

LIKE ME??????

What a beleiver, actually there are more "of us" than there are "of you".

Who's to say i do not UNDERSTAND YOU! If your argument is that logically there is no God than thats one thing, I can logically conclude there is. I have no issue with you not beleiving, not sure where you got that from.

excon

Hello:

Well, I'm an athiest and I'm not happy at all. I guess that proves it.

But, I don't think I'd be happier if I started pretending about things, though. Do you know how silly I would feel if I started pretending? No, you don't, do you?

excon

NeedKarma

You say:

But earlier:

What's up with that?