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Old Jul 20, 2007, 12:22 PM
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Atheists do not believe,How?

As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 12:27 PM   #2  
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They just don't...they see things in a more logical sense or whats logical to them perhaps. Some people just don't feel the need to believe in god...once we die we die and that's that.

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 02:14 PM   #3  
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Here's the way I see it:

You either have the capacity for religious faith, or you don't. Either your brain says "Sure, this thing sounds good, let's go with that." or it says, "Are you nuts? No way!" Most atheists rely on PROOF of things, evidence, science, and so on. To believe in a god, you must suspend that desire for evidence and let yourself go, so to speak. To me, that's what the "capacity for faith" is.

This of course can bring up the argument of who is right, who's belief is better, blah blah blah. To me, it doesn't matter. Religion works for you? Great, go for it. Atheism works for you? Great, go for that.

Then there are also the people who "lose" their faith; perhaps a loved one dies, they lose their job and their dog gets run over all in one day. For some people, when too many bad things happen in a row, they lose their faith because they think god wouldn't do this if he exists.

For me, I was born without the capacity for religious faith. My brain just won't let me accept it - it seems to illogical and irrational. I also see the horrible things people do to themselves and others in the name of religion, and I want no part of that.

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Why would you believe? There have been so many gods over the course of humanity that we can't even keep count. Why does anyone of them deserve your worship more than the other.

Religion was invented by man to control large amounts of people. Humans evolved to live in groups of up to 150. With the invention of agricultural humans were able to live in larger groups and the leaders had trouble keeping tribes under control. So they did what every great human leader does when loosing control; he invents an enemy. He invents a reason to hate and with the absence of other reasons, you hate for ideals and religion is born.
 
 
     
 
 
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As for me (this is nauticalstar420's husband) I believe more in black and white, what i can see, and what can be proven. I do believe Jesus Christ walked the earth, but i believe after the years of the story being passed on generation to generation it was altered to what we have today.

If i have offended anybody, i do apologize. I just dont believe that a bibliological being created the entire universe and us as human beings with no proof or no hard physical evidence, but yet it can be proven by a scientific analysis and data of evolution.

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Einstein thought it was possible that there is a god involved in creating the Universe.

All the embellishments about the nature of god(s), motives of god(s) and so on found in Bibles, holy scriptures and "revelations" are purely *human fantasizing*, and where humans are involved there are always open or hidden agendas.

Enlightnement and wisdom is the result of human minds.


Cordially,

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever
As a believer in The Creator of the worlds, I have always wondered how an atheist comes to the conclusion that God is non existent ?
Please do not think that I am going to argue your points,just curious!!!

Thanks in advance.
The way I see it, it demands the inconsistent application of the scientific method and violation of basic logic. For example, complex coded messages would be imediately attributed to intelligemt sources. But the coded instructions or messages in the DNA aren't.

Is DNA a Code?

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Not seeking a debate merely giving my opinion as requested by poster.
 
 
     
 
 
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Einstein thought it was possible that there is a god involved in creating the Universe.
Every good scientist thinks this, no need to bring Einstein into it...
 
 
     
 
 
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BTW
Not seeking a debate merely giving my opinion as requested by poster.
Y'know no one here debased the other side until your post.

"inconsistent application of the scientific method"
"violation of basic logic"

Indeed.
 
 
     
 
 
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I read this somewhere and personally enjoy the idea. It might help or it might not. Still worth a read though.

Imagine This....

God is a potato! Sounds funny and even sacrilegious, but its true!

2000 years ago the Roman and Greek empires had as the supreme being in their religious pantheon, Zeus, today the Zeus and all the other Gods of this long gone religion are called 'myths' and in about 2000 years our view of God will most likely have died out and become a 'myth' also. Disney will make a movie about God (like Samson and Hercules).

The point is even if in the future we are worshiping a giant potato as the supreme being/divine creator (God) it will still be the same 'thing' - by any other name a rose will still smell as sweet. And by any other name 'God' will still be as powerful. It is still the same 'Thing' no matter what you call it, or how you envision 'it.

This thing this 'God' is within you. It is within all of us. call it what you will, visualise it anyway you want. Call it 'He' call it 'She' call it 'It'. It makes no difference it is that same thing no matter what name you give it. Even if you say you don't believe in it, it doesn't matter - that won't make it go away. It is a part of you, a part of all of us, a part of the whole. I'm not a religious person, I don't think of 'It' as 'God' but I know it is there cause I can feel it working in me - I ask for what I want and 'It' delivers. It is also known by other labels - The Law Of Attraction, Universal Law, Universal Mind, God, Ghosts, Spirit etc. Labels! Just labels! Call it what you want. It's real!

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