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Old Apr 18, 2009, 11:26 AM
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skin whitening/lightening.THE SAFE WAY! Join the natural movement.

Ok this thread is for all people using safe and natural products who are willing to keep the board members updated with their results. If you use Bio Claire or anything that contains hydroquinone, mercury, or any other harmful ingredients, this thread is NOT FOR YOU! If your are using a product and you are unsure about the ingredients, post the ingredients here and I along with other concerned members will do research on the ingredients. People are tired of using products that are puting their health at risk unknowingly (amazingly some dont even care, they just want to be white/lighter) and today we are going to end this!

After my sitaution with Bio Claire I decided to go natural and I'm glad I did!
Starting Monday I will be using gluta-blend soap (a soap that is blended with kojic acid, glutathione, and rosehip oil. It is also good at exfoliating and micropeeling) and istant skin whitening effect lotion ( a lotion that contain high dosage of kojic acid and glutathion aswell as rosehip oil and other safe ingredients) and will update you on my progress. I was kinda concerned about the high dosage of kojic acid in the lotion but I searched for reviews on the product and users have seeing amazing results. Although the results were not instant ( 1 1/2 weeks before they seen results) they seen amazing results. And the bottles last 3 weeks if used all over. ITs actually the bet seller on the amira website I orderd from and I must say the amira website is amazing because it only sells natural safe products! Goggle amira majic for the website.


So feel free to post ingredients that your unsure about or comment/review on safe products you are using or have used.

HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE! JOIN THE NATURAL MOVEMENT!


*MODS PLEASE DONT DELETE THIS THREAD BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THIS THREAD WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE*

 
     

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Old Sep 2, 2009, 08:44 PM   #271  
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Here's a link with reviews about the products Fair & Flawless ruined my skin!!, maybe you should be mad at the skin bright forum, not me.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 2, 2009, 11:30 PM   #272  
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No need to lie Nikki and if you are offering to purchase F&F's expensive cream for two people that you are friendly with and then go to every skin forum and promote the product how honest are you? In another post you said that a moderator asked you to get free samples of the product for her and you refused and that is why she banned you from the skin bright forum, may I ask who are you to fair and flawless to have free samples to give away just laying around? At first when you PM'd me I knew I got a bad vibe from you and now I see why. Everything else someone recommends to me I try because I am in such a desperate situation but, for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to try your product or the product that you are affiliated with. I will give you one piece of advice though that I see has been given to you on many other forums if you change your attitude you may get more sales! You've now just officially lost a customer.

ANYONE WHO LOOKS AT THE LINKS THAT I FOUND FOR YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE!

It clearly says here on November 17, 2005 http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-li...ss-8507-2.html that you have been banned from dozens of forums for promoting fair and flawless and I think that's sad! I haven't been banned from anywhere I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem, I don't sit around on the computer all day posting on every forum on the internet, trying to get a sale.

NOW THAT'S SAD
I don't come to these boards to argue with anyone.
I was just answering a question as to why Indian Princess thinks your a scammer. Indian Princess called you out, not me. I was thinking the same thing she was. Not in the lines of you being a scammer but of you sounding familiar. But I did not post anything to you so why would I PM you?

You could have came on the board and said, "nikki I don't know what your talking about, a friend of mine told me about this cream and I'm just trying to look good for a wedding, I don't know who those other people are, I'm just want to lighten up and look nice, I don't know why Indian Princess would say that about me."

You could have least played innocent, you could have least played like you had no clue what was going on, like why am I being accused of this?

Instead you came on here, LIE and posted I PM'd with a Fair and Flawless discount Are you kidding me? You messed up!! You gave yourself away. Because you know full well I NEVER offered you anything!! You speak of someone who just got caught and you know this to be true.
You don't speak of someone who's friend just mentioned a cream you should use to lighten up your complexion. You've got more at stake than that.
Your fighting way too hard, like you've got something to lose.
Perhaps a wanna be Fair and Flawless business? hmmm I don't know....

Nice try though....
Silly girl tricks are for kids!!!

Let's face it, I posted something that hit a nerve with you, so much so you had go to all the waaaaay back to 2005? Really? Anyone who has been on boards long enough knows all about it. Honey your not revealing anything new. But since you want to turn the hands of time. Let me see.....2005

Yes, I did purchase two people the facial cream.
What can I say? I'm a nice person.

Yes, yes, a Mod did ask me to get free samples for her because when she asked Fair and Flawless they told her no. So she asked me, I told her no, so she banned me. You think that was right?

Who am I to get free samples from Fair and Flawless? I'm the one who talked about Fair and Flawless because I was so excited I thought it was the IT cream (and I still do) that we've all been waiting for. I called the company and asked lot's of questions, for some odd reason maybe it was stupidity others did not call. So I was the one with the most information on the cream.

How does Nikki know this?
How does Nikki know that?
Nikki must work for them how else would she know so much?
Like they couldn't call and ask questions themselves?

Oh they called alright!!!
They actually called Fair and Flawless and complained about me!!!!
Who is this Nikki? Does she work for you? My husbands a lawyer I could sue you!! On and on and on about Nikki.

This all went down before they even had a website. So when their first website came up instead of calling I e-mailed them about their products.
Somebody over there saw my e-mail name and said this must be the Nikki everyone is calling about. They e-mailed me saying please call us, we need to talk.

My heart is racing, I'm thinking did I do something wrong?
Why would they want me to call them? What did I do?

That's when she (Linda) says we have had many phone calls about you.
(at this point I"m thinking aww dang I'm in trouble!!!) She ask have you been talking about our products, I said umm yeah, why what's wrong?

She said THANKS!!!
On behalf of everyone here at Fair and Flawless we just wanted to say thank you for saying such nice things about us!! I would like to send you some free samples as a way of appreciation. You think I'm going to turn that down? She asked me what would you like? I said a facial cream would be nice.

I posted the picture right here at askmehelpdesk of what she sent me. It was not a sample, all those products were full sizes, cleanser, toner, another facial cleanser with little scrubbing beads in it, facial moisturizer that smelled like it had benzoyl peroxide in it, maybe that was for acne and the facial cream. 5 free products all for me!!

And it was do to all the haters out there who thought I worked for the company, who called and complained about me only for it to turn around on them and I ended up with free products. And that's the story of how Nikki got her first jar of Fair and Flawless.

The end....

Your right, anyone who does reads the posts, who really reads post can see the truth, not skip over only to find the negatives.

You've never been banned?
How could you?
Once your found out you leave.

You need several ID's to lie.
I only need one ID/screen name for the truth.
I'll change my attitude has soon as you stop you changing screen names.
Do we have a deal?

Oh please stop the "I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem" routine. Sweety you can't retract those claws now. You put them out there for all to see. Too late to play naive, aww chucks I was just looking for a cream. Game over, the gig is up!!!

I don't need any link to reviews to the bright skin forum.
I have no problem with any members of that forum.
You brought them into this, not me. You leave them alone!!!

This is between me, you, abbycute, whiteandlight and shantifive. LOL!!!
In fact you had no business bringing me into it like you did. You didn't play your cards right girl.

You know what's really sad? Your the one sitting at your computer trying to make a sale of your wanna be products in the forums and your doing it in such a way that it's almost embarrassing. I am truly embarrassed for you.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 3, 2009, 01:28 AM   #273  
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I don't come to these boards to argue with anyone.
I was just answering a question as to why Indian Princess thinks your a scammer. Indian Princess called you out, not me. I was thinking the same thing she was. Not in the lines of you being a scammer but of you sounding familiar. But I did not post anything to you so why would I PM you?

You could have came on the board and said, "nikki I don't know what your talking about, a friend of mine told me about this cream and I'm just trying to look good for a wedding, I don't know who those other people are, I'm just want to lighten up and look nice, I don't know why Indian Princess would say that about me."

You could have least played innocent, you could have least played like you had no clue what was going on, like why am I being accused of this?

Instead you came on here, LIE and posted I PM'd with a Fair and Flawless discount Are you kidding me? You messed up!! You gave yourself away. Because you know full well I NEVER offered you anything!! You speak of someone who just got caught and you know this to be true.
You don't speak of someone who's friend just mentioned a cream you should use to lighten up your complexion. You've got more at stake than that.
Your fighting way too hard, like you've got something to lose.
Perhaps a wanna be Fair and Flawless business? hmmm I don't know....

Nice try though....
Silly girl tricks are for kids!!!

Let's face it, I posted something that hit a nerve with you, so much so you had go to all the waaaaay back to 2005? Really? Anyone who has been on boards long enough knows all about it. Honey your not revealing anything new. But since you want to turn the hands of time. Let me see.....2005

Yes, I did purchase two people the facial cream.
What can I say? I'm a nice person.

Yes, yes, a Mod did ask me to get free samples for her because when she asked Fair and Flawless they told her no. So she asked me, I told her no, so she banned me. You think that was right?

Who am I to get free samples from Fair and Flawless? I'm the one who talked about Fair and Flawless because I was so excited I thought it was the IT cream (and I still do) that we've all been waiting for. I called the company and asked lot's of questions, for some odd reason maybe it was stupidity others did not call. So I was the one with the most information on the cream.

How does Nikki know this?
How does Nikki know that?
Nikki must work for them how else would she know so much?
Like they couldn't call and ask questions themselves?

Oh they called alright!!!
They actually called Fair and Flawless and complained about me!!!!
Who is this Nikki? Does she work for you? My husbands a lawyer I could sue you!! On and on and on about Nikki.

This all went down before they even had a website. So when their first website came up instead of calling I e-mailed them about their products.
Somebody over there saw my e-mail name and said this must be the Nikki everyone is calling about. They e-mailed me saying please call us, we need to talk.

My heart is racing, I'm thinking did I do something wrong?
Why would they want me to call them? What did I do?

That's when she (Linda) says we have had many phone calls about you.
(at this point I"m thinking aww dang I'm in trouble!!!) She ask have you been talking about our products, I said umm yeah, why what's wrong?

She said THANKS!!!
On behalf of everyone here at Fair and Flawless we just wanted to say thank you for saying such nice things about us!! I would like to send you some free samples as a way of appreciation. You think I'm going to turn that down? She asked me what would you like? I said a facial cream would be nice.

I posted the picture right here at askmehelpdesk of what she sent me. It was not a sample, all those products were full sizes, cleanser, toner, another facial cleanser with little scrubbing beads in it, facial moisturizer that smelled like it had benzoyl peroxide in it, maybe that was for acne and the facial cream. 5 free products all for me!!

And it was do to all the haters out there who thought I worked for the company, who called and complained about me only for it to turn around on them and I ended up with free products. And that's the story of how Nikki got her first jar of Fair and Flawless.

The end....

Your right, anyone who does reads the posts, who really reads post can see the truth, not skip over only to find the negatives.

You've never been banned?
How could you?
Once your found out you leave.

You need several ID's to lie.
I only need one ID/screen name for the truth.
I'll change my attitude has soon as you stop you changing screen names.
Do we have a deal?

Oh please stop the "I am just a normal, everyday person looking for a solution to my problem" routine. Sweety you can't retract those claws now. You put them out there for all to see. Too late to play naive, aww chucks I was just looking for a cream. Game over, the gig is up!!!

I don't need any link to reviews to the bright skin forum.
I have no problem with any members of that forum.
You brought them into this, not me. You leave them alone!!!

This is between me, you, abbycute, whiteandlight and shantifive. LOL!!!
In fact you had no business bringing me into it like you did. You didn't play your cards right girl.

You know what's really sad? Your the one sitting at your computer trying to make a sale of your wanna be products in the forums and your doing it in such a way that it's almost embarrassing. I am truly embarrassed for you.
WHO YOU SHOULD BE EMBARASSED FOR IS YOURSELF because you can't even admit to the discount that you offered me (and I thought you were just trying to be nice). If you didn't offer me or anyone else any discounts why would you be banned from dozens of sites? You never said that any moderator first asked F&F for free samples and they said no that was never in the original post in 2005 so, what are you talking about affiliate/owner of F&F?

Here is a quote from the actual post by nikkicute:

"The other mod from the now gone lighterkskin proboards was as I written before greedy. She wanted free samples of Fair and Flawless and wanted me to get them for her, I refused. I was banned. Just like that. I ask you, was that fair? I was banned for no other reason than her wanting to get her hands on those products, which she is still trying to do."

SOUNDS SUSPICIOUS TO ME!

Please don't be mad at me because I was still in school in 2005 earning my masters and could care less about your products even though PEOPLE HAD BAD REVIEWS OF YOUR PRODUCT ALL THE WAY BACK THEN!

Personally, I think if your husband's a lawyer he needs to sue all the people who are telling the TRUTH about what happened to their skin as the result of the products you are hawking to every skin whitening forum!

YOU SHOULD BE EMBARASSED FOR YOURSELF if you remember I didn't ask for any advice from you, I didn't PM, and I really wasn't talking to you. I was already getting good advice from the OTHER members here because I had already done a search for all your posts and realized what you're up to and after this I am sure all the other members here will too!

THE TRUTH IS IN THE PUDDING SWEETHEART all that needs to be done is for someone to read the links that I posted. Wow, you really think people are dumb, don't you?

I guess everyone has been LYING since 2005 http://excoboard.com/exco/archive.ph...006&t=602208-1!! coincidentally when you joined the forum to talk about F&F!!

Sounds like nikkicute=SPAMMER to me!
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 3, 2009, 04:48 AM   #274  
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Gotcha!!!

Your slipping!!!
Part of my post page 14 post #138 after Father Chuck's discovery:

Still no answer from AbbyCute in pm and no answer from Tonquie to my second question I asked 6 days ago. WhiteandLight and I were chattnig in pm. Now WhiteandLight and AbbyCute no longer except private messages and Shantifive came in not excepting private messages.

I still think Shantifive is also another id. Notice only one post praising a product and posting her continuous support "to your company".
Who's company is she talking about? Don't know because as you can see
(page 13 post#122 #123 ) she did not answer my question to which product she was referring to.

Oh well...it's all over and done with for this vendor in this forum.
I know for a FACT this company has nothing to do with Fair and Flawless.
I suggest being more honest when trying to sell your wares.


You see? You see what you just did?
I pm'd abbycute, I pm'd whiteandlight. I NEVER pm'd beautifulskin.
You remember me PMing when YOU were Abbycute and WhiteandLight!!! That's why you keep bringing up private messages!

Ooooops!!
I told you...I told you, keep talking.
The more you post the more you give yourself away!!
You've got your screen names all mixed up!!
And you've got a Masters Degree right? LOL!!!

Never said I had a husband, re-read the post and you will see I was talking about the haters calling Fair and Flawless with that silly little threat.

Ooooops!! You did it again!!
beautifulskin:
YOU SHOULD BE EMBARASSED FOR YOURSELF if you remember I didn't ask for any advice from you, I didn't PM, and I really wasn't talking to you. I was already getting good advice from the OTHER members here because I had already done a search for all your posts and realized what you're up to and after this I am sure all the other members here will too!


You did ask for my advice!!
Never said you pm'd.
You just can't seem to get those pm's right, now can you?

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Nikki is there any one particular product you are a fan of? I was reading your posts and it seems like you liked Fair & Flawless but I had a friend try it and she said it doesn't work and is too expensive is there anything else you recommend?

Is that not you addressing me BY NAME asking for advice?
Doesn't take a Masters to see that!! It's pretty simple really.

And you said you were already getting good advice from the other members here because you had already done a search of all my posts? LIAR!!
That post above was only your SECOND post!!

Your FIRST post was Hello all nice to be here, I'm a fan of Tonique,
The above post is your SECOND post asking me which cream I'd recommend.
Between your first post and your second where are the others already giving you advice?? Show me!!!!Where? Wait a sec, I know, let me guess, they pm'd you this advice? LOL!!! And by this time out of ALL the members here you supposedly went back and looked at all of my posts? When? In June? Yeah right!!

You only started looking back at my posts last night after I posted why Indian Princess thought you were a scammer, and you know it!!!

Not only can you not get your screen names straight, you can't get your story straight. Your time line is all wrong Ms. Masters Degree!! I repeat,
I'm embarrassed for you.

Come on!!
Just give up already!!
It's done. Your done!!
Your a LIAR!!!
And that should not be a surprise since Tonique is a liar too, with pictures (that were later removed) that did not belong to them, with fake testimonies all sounding like the same person, paragraphs taken from the Fair and Flawless website, along with the copy cat naming of products also claiming to be in business since 1999. Now you know that's a lie!!!

All of us who have been in the skin lightening game know just about every product that is out there. Never heard of this cream until this year.

Stop with the 2005 post!!
You expect me to remember some post I wrote 4 years ago?
I don't have to explain 2005 to you, I know what happened and why do you care about what went down with me and mod from 2005. That's old news!!!
I think I know. Let's keep bringing up 2005 to distract from the fact that you can't explain away your 2009 posts. ohhhh I got it now. You just might not be that dumb after all.
 
 
     
 
 
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Anywho Nikki, Allison, or whoever you are it is obvious that you know a lot about the skin lightening game almost too much! I am sure you remember posts from 4 years ago because it got you banned from all the sites, I know you remember that!

JUST ACCEPT IT THE JIG IS UP!

I DON'T WANT YOUR DISOUNT OR YOUR ADVICE YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE ALTERIOR MOTIVES!

WHAT HAPPENED NOT THREATENING LEGAL ACTION ANYMORE???

HAVE YOUR LAWYER HUSBAND SUE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO USED YOUR PRODUCTS AND BROKE OUT AND ENDED UP DARKER THAN WHEN THEY STARTED ALLISON!
 
 
     
 
 
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ok im lost
its all a bit wierd on here now :S
 
 
     
 
 
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ok im lost
its all a bit wierd on here now :S
LOL!! Sorry about that.
Don't worry about being lost it's not worth following.
Silly isn't it?
Arguing over skin lightening?
That is weird but it happens.

I'll get back to the subject at hand.
Poor, poor Weezing sometimes her thread get's hijacked!! lol
 
 
     
 
 
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Hey Nikki.... I dont know either of the two of you here .... But I am on your side girl and i have sen you post more genuine posts than that tonique lover..............


I know how people want to defame the others when their products or their authenticity is being questioned..


That silly btcih ANATOLA tried those games with me too... I wrote her a mail on mono regimen help and she came up with FAKE SNAPSHOTS which could be TAMPERED WITH and stated I was in the United States of America and that ANil from Monobenzone was actually ME !


hahaha


I even asked Father Chuck to take action.. Fortunately he had track of all the IP addresses ( he counted as TEN.. i wouldnt be surprised if they were more coz i access various comps in my University Library ) and confirmed to me in pm that I was actually in the UK and all my addresses were traced out of the UK..


That silly ANATOLA ... were all out at me.. with ANATOLA saying that OH GOD WHAT A LIAR and crap .. I cant believe the limits she went to to lie about me just becuase her favourite product monobenzone from her supplier ( or is she the supplier herself ) ) never worked for me.

or wait ! maybe she was a part of the benzylarbutin team which never worked for me either. And all I did was say that both the products werent working for me.... So she had to concoct this HUGE story about how she tracked

my IP THROUGH HER GOVERNMENT JOB hahahaha .....

I sailed in the same boat once upon a time NIKS ... DOnt worry I trust ya more than this stupid TONIQUE lover !

Oh BTW ANATOLA how is your GOVERNMENT WORK OF SUBSTANDARD PRODUCTS OF ORIENT TOWN .. going ? And what happened to that fake ID person COMPUTER GEEK who wanted to confirm my IP Address and then dissappeared once the thread was closed down ? As far as I remember I even gave my telefone numbah and my email id to mail me and check...

One big comp wiz that comp geeek thought he ( or she ??) was !

And using the fact that I didnt know much about IP addresses and trying to make it sound as if I was lying !


Bloddy hell... Dont bother about all these crapster NIKS.... they are ridiculous people ... to hell with them.. just continue on our quest for lightening .. No one cares what they try to say ... they are scamsters !


Well innit

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Golden_Girl agrees: I should have believed you from the startNo one has heard from Anatola yet so she must have been untruthful.
 
 
     
 
 
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TONIQUE???

HELLL that sounds even shadier than BIO CLAIRE.... although I know bio claire still works... with all the africans purchasing it in black beauty stores in UK...

But TONIQUE??????? The shadiest name for the shadiest product!
 
 
     
 
 
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TONIQUE???

HELLL that sounds even shadier than BIO CLAIRE.... although I know bio claire still works... with all the africans purchasing it in black beauty stores in UK...

But TONIQUE??????? The shadiest name for the shadiest product!
I just don't understand the logic. How can you look at the linkss and evidence that I've provided that NIKKI IS A SELLER and deny the truth. I think that you need to go over the posts again and actually take a look at the evidence and see that Nikki is going to all the skin lightening forums saying the same thing and was banned from several due to the PM'ing. How can you deny that?
 
 
     
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