Originally Posted by Vahid

I'll be the first to confess. That I am more likely to talk to a guy who I find attractive (yeah im gay...) But in terms of how I treat people.. it's only how they treat me.. how they talk to me, and how they act/behave that matters. Like if they are a respectful person, who cares about others, or if they are more typical and conceited. As far as colour goes, I don't get why people can't appreciate people of all colours. Because we are all the same on the inside.. just some of us were handed down bodies in different colours. My best friend has had racism in her life because she is quite dark, but she found someone who loves her the way she is.

Still she does still want to change, and im helping her to do that. Because I beleive how we look should be chosen by us and no one else. And yeah living in a western culure has come to the point that we have to change to fit in as sad as it is. We are noticed more and found more attractive if we have fairer skin. Although I don't ever want to lose my tan.. I think it's sexy. Why Would I wanna be a white boy with blonde hair and fake blue eyes? Gosh ewe.. no thank you!!!

Those skinactives products look promising. But the best way to permanently change your pigment, is through monobenzene. You see lovely these products you use may not be as effective on everyone else. We are different and some skin tones are less prove to change. But monobenzene will always change your skin colour no matter. And unlike other products, its permanent and if you stop using it your skin wont go back to its original colour and you won't go dark again if you go int he sun. It's a permanent skin depigmentator. But can be quite expensive and can have some serious side effects for some people such as patchy or streaky skin.

Still you wanna turn light fast? Monobenzene is the way to go. It's rumoured that it is what Michael Jackson used. And many african people have completely depigmented their skin.. from black.. to snow white!!! Anything is possible in the realm of beauty. (And I hope I can look 19 forever..) hahahahaha!

MUAH!

The Crazy And Slightly Drunk Vahid...

Originally Posted by lovely101

NO THANK YOU MONOBEN...whatever. THat's a real desperate move right there. I just want to GLOW..not turn into an albino.. I think tan is sexy too..and so is dark..But attractiveness stems from GLOWINGNESS i believe and it's not about how light youa re..just about how good looking your skin is. The only products that seems to make me radiate is lightening products..i guess because of all the good for your skin ingredients that are not in our everyday moisturizer. I used to look so DULL..now i look like..POP..because my skin is looking great..all the marks are going away..that's all I ever wanted.

Pretty sad WE ALL including white people have to conform to european beauty. Keep in mind that not every white person is sweet valley looking..they too are VERY MUCH pressured to look like what is seen on TV. Minorites arent the only ones who are pressured..just that we are not as close to the european beauty as they are...But I mean if u take a look at california..its basically a whole bunch of clones walking around. People who move there end up getting so caught up in looking like this big star. Most of them have had atleast 2 plastic surgeries. Some are addicted. Almost everyone has a boob job..everyone has to conform to that.

Pretty sad really..but I think they'll b a day when DARK is in..and every1 will be scurrying to be dark. Then Indian..everyone will scurry to be indian. Hispanic..every1 willl scurry to be hispanic...Brazilian and so on. they'll be a day when small boobs are..just like how big butts are now in. I guess its just a FAD..that will pass like everything else.

And youare very right that not every product works for every1..def. know that..just trying to give a little idea of what worked for me!

But anywho, you are an aussie?? I've always wanted to go there..love the accents. How is it like?

Originally Posted by Vahid

lol actually lovie its very hot here! And what you were saying about darker skin... well in most Western countries people are so used to pale skin people that they rarely recognise those with darker skin tones. But of course darker skin is hot! There will always be someone out there who will think you look dynamite whatever your colour is. And I think it's more worth waiting for that person that trying to impress others.

And also.. its not just your colour its how you use it, for example. My best friend is Indian, she has quite dark skin... but... she wears clothes that stand out, and she died her hair brown... making a really nice contrast between her skin colour and hair. It makes all the difference. So I guess what im saying is that instead of confirming to a certain colour.. we can experiment with our own.. and see what hair colour and accessories match it.

Though im still curious as to what I would look like with pale skin, but I love my skin colour and want to be able to go back to it sometime in the future.. arrr... decisions decisions.

And those other products do work.. pills and such.. I thought it didn't work.. but I noticed my skin colour is the same as my big sister.. and she has always been two shades lighter than me.

Still I don't know where this lighter skin obsession came from?? I think it's that a few people cracked jokes on it.. that and people used to always ask me what my background is. It's annoying and makes you feel segregated. But now the sun here is so potent that people are getting my colour... so it's becoming the norm to have quite tanned skin.

Still the curiosity never quite dies.. does it... what if???

Originally Posted by lovely101

TOTALLY! But I think, why can't we experiment with our skin color the same we do our hair..or our eyes. We can always go back that color. I feel like its such a STIGMA for colored people to get LIGHTENING PRODUCTS. We often have to hide it..get condemned for it..it is just looked at as WRONG WRONG WRONG! But, then there's nothing wrong with getting a tan..

What I don't understand is how things are said to be sooo hideous and bad when a person of darker complexion has something..but as soon as the lighter complexion person has it..it's WOW. For example, Big butts were originally a black thing..a bad thing...then JLO and beyonce comes out and then big butts are great! Then Thin lips were only sexy..all of the sudden JOLIE comes out..and EVERY1 thinks big lips are sexy. Maybe becuz they are confident with it..which in turn makes them sexy..or mayb becuz fair people decide whats sexy or not sexy..don't know

I just wish..I don't know..that color was not so judged. Meaning, you are looked down on for being a color, and looked down for CHANGING your color. i don't think alot of people hate themselves..just feel like they are curious or just want bright skin!

i wish i can leave my bleaching cream out in the open without someone comming in my room and judging me for it. As if i've turned my back on something. Like who cares..this is not my "natural" hair, those are not your "natural" eyes..why can't I just experiment with my looks like someone experiments with there hair color. Why really gives a damn right?

I'm taking breast enhancement pills now..so I wonder if it'll work!! LOL..i am purely experimenting with myself but my boobs won't ever go back to it's small size..thats if it even works! LOL

Originally Posted by muna

Hello lovely101
can you tell me what was your origin color (can you send me private pic, before and after) what are you using , pills and creams and so forth. thanks for all the info you posted before, they are great, I just want to know step by step,

Originally Posted by Vahid

Im not ashamed of it.. I tell people everything Ive had done. Yeah you are so right. People get tans all the time.. but when you get lighter skin its looked down upon. I guess it's up to the individual. Well I got my heart brocken today... so Im going to take it out on some major monobenzene hah... it might not heal my heart... but I guess it will get my mind off thing's. Listen lovely if you ever wanna chat feel free to msn or Y me or whatever. Take care. x.

Originally Posted by whitebutterfly

I just hope in all forums in this website sellers should be banned - it confuses us buyers and users. Let just do the research.

Originally Posted by whitebutterfly

I was not comfortable telling all the negative things-

I'm not trying to make trouble here and I’m not pertaining to people who are very informative - i know you are just sharing your positive insights and experiences. I'm just talking to other people here....THE SELLERS...if they want to share please tell real experiences happened to them and not PROMOTING or ADVERTICING...that's all thanks.

Originally Posted by whitebutterfly

I just hope in all forums in this website sellers should be banned - it confuses us buyers and users. Let just do the research.