[JudyKayTee]

I'm setting up a new aquarium. Everything is stable and fine, it's been several days. Now I'm looking at fish.

I LOVE angelfish. I know there are both miniature and regular size. I'm told the miniature aren't as hardy but they don't need all the room the regular size need. I'm told no more than one "angel" per 10 gallons (for the larger size).

Anyone have any luck with them? I get all sorts of conflicting information.

Or am I back to the "standard" fish?

[Stratmando]

The ones we have in south Florida are over 12 inches, 10 gallons may be cruel. I think smaller fish with more room would be better? My opinion?

[Alty]

My dad always had angel fish. He had a lot of luck with them. His were about the size of a grown mans palm, not including the fins, by the time they were full grown. Beautiful fish, but very aggressive.

It was hard to have any other fish in the tank with them, unless they could fend for themselves. My dad loved neon tetras but they were just the right size for the angel fish to eat. The other fish that were big enough to not get eaten usually had their fins bitten, or died because the angel fish would fight with them.

My dads favorite angel fish lived 10 years.

[Helli]

I have a 33 gallon tank and had 4 Angel Fish for quite a while. Actually years (8) do best with no other fish in tank. I gave them regular flake food and mixed it with some blood worms, they loved it! Good luck!

[shazamataz]

I also found out the hard way that Neon Tetras and Angels don't mix.
Sorry I don't remember the specifications of the tank (I was about 10 when we had them) but I think it was around 2 foot wide and we had 3 medium sized Angels in there with a few other smaller fish...
Before long we only had the 3 Angels.

[Aurora_Bell]

I have an angel fish in a 21 gal high. He is getting bigger, and I am looking at bigger tanks. He's a bit bigger then the palm of my hand. Gouarmi's are beautiful fish, and the dwarf species generally doesn't get too big, unless you get a pearl gouarmi, they are part of the cichlid family and can get to giant sizes.

So how big is your tank?

Here is a pic of the Rainbow Gouarmi (these one's are the dwarf gouarmi's).

TrekLens | Flame Gourami Photo
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JWAFZxs4Wo...lue+gurami.jpg

Here is a picture of the pearl Gouarmi's, these tend to be more aggressive and need more space and ample plants for hiding.

http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/People/hurley-pearl.jpg

[Aurora_Bell]

Oh yes, the reason I was telling you about the Gourami's is because they are fairly hardy fish. Much more so then an Angel Fish, which with my experience need to be in a well established tank, at least 6 months or so. I started with 3 Angel Fish and had lost all 3 within a month. Received one about 7 months into my tank and he/she is doing amazing.

Also Phantom tetra's are really unique. They change colour as they age. They start kind of transparent and black, and end up being neon green or purple and black. Also hardy (most tetras are).

[shazamataz]

My parents use to breed Discus, they are beautiful fish. They grow quite large but they're quite hardy. Put it this way, they had not much clue when it came to fish, bought 4 discus and they started breeding as soon as they were big enough.

Only down side with them is you are looking at around $50 for a baby... closer to $500 for an adult.

[JudyKayTee]

The tank is 40 gallons. I did all the testing and bought 8 Gouramis on Tuesday. Today there are 6 but no bodies. I suspect these 6 murdered the other 2 and buried their bodies in the gravel - or something.

The good news is that I have no time to get into trouble - between counting fish, testing the water, going to the fish store my hands are full.

LOVE the Discus - fantastic! So, unfortunately, is the price.

My late husband had a salt water tank in his condo and the "fish guys" came in and took care of it. It was beautiful - but expensive to maintain.

[GZDZ]

I have bred them years ago,and have kept a pair of breeders. With 3 of their offspring I keep 5 large and I mean large ones in a 46 gallon Euro-Bow front tank. They are Veil-tail and koi-angles. I also love cardinals and neon's. In order to keep them with angles, I grow them in a separate 20 gal tank till they don't fit in the angles mouth. Every now and then one will be missing. I'm sure eaten, but that's the risk you take. There is nothing like color in the tank. They all come from the Amazon region, so the water parameters are the same for tetras and angels.
They are territorial when they breed other wise they don't bother anyone. I agree with Shazamataz Discus are great, however they are docile and should be kept alone. They also get larger than angels, but the colors and choices are worth the money.
Also, don't forget angles and discus require tall tanks over long ones. With their fins they are quite tall and therefore need the extra room.
P.S. I always recommend to overkill on your filter, it makes maintenance a lot easier. I use a Fluval 405 on the 46 gal. It needs a cleaning maybe 4 times a year.

[Aurora_Bell]

Judy, check your filter. Mine have gone "missing" and found them during regular cleaning. What types of Gouarmi's did you get? I've always loved salt water fish, but I hear they are not for the novice fish owner. Good choice by the way with the Gourami's. Beautiful fish In my opinion.