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Okey.. when I found the snake today he was like a dead fish.. and I sat by the fire with him haning around my neck and a lot of his "bodyjuice"/pee or something ran out of him... I thaught he was dead for sure.. but I put him back in his cage because I din't want to throw him out just yet.. after a while he got harder and I thaugh deathstiffness or something had caught to him, and he was not moving.. but when I stroke my finger over his body it was like his body reacted to it and I could see he was sort of beathing.. but rarely, like he's heartrythm was slowed down, like they do when they hibernate..
I'm sorry if my english is bad but I'm norwegian.. I'm sure he is not dead.. it feel that was at least when I touch him.. Thanks a lot for answearing me :-) |
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Well, something must have worked.. last two hour before I went to bed last night he started breathing more often and heavylier and he responded more to my touches but he hadn't moved at all yet.. but when I woke up this morning and checked on him he had moved.. :-) but I can't see any sign that he has been drinking and water though.. I'm sure he will get back to normal when he get a bit time.. :-) maybe he was in a koma? Is that the right word? Or he had been braindamaged or something.. anyway, it's a miracle he's alive.. because when I sat by the fire with him haning around my neck yesterday he was so ice cold my neck got numb.. I know I would be dead for sure if I had that bodytemprature.. |
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I think that your snake got too cold. As you know, snakes are cold blooded animals and for it's body functions to work properly (the chemicals to work at the right speed), it has to be at a certain temperature. Lower than that, your snake would be 'slowing down'. I'm not a specialist in snakes (I'm even afraid to touch one :o) but try keeping it warm. Don't give it sudden warmth, but more gradually. I know for instance that it's been extremely cold up there, in Norway and try not to lose it again, OK? I don't know if it was in coma (that's how we write it :)) or something else. Maybe it was hypothermia. |
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He seemed fine this morning but now he has rolled up and is lying more up-side down.. that not a good sign is it? :-S I tried to give him some water though.. not sure if he responed and drank any of it... and it not like I can call the vet and get helt since snakes and retiles are illegal here in norway.. He looks pretty braindamaged to me.. :-( just hopes he survive... |
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Vix-x-xen, Snakes do hibernate, even if it's a species that's from a Tropical, sub-tropical region, and has not been known to hibernate due to a climatic advantage. Hibernation is a defensive mechanisim that occurs due to a chemical change in their system brought on by unfavorable temperatures that threaten it's ability to survive. The metobolisim begins to slow down-to conserve calories. Then all calories and system functions are directed to life support. A multi-spectrum light placed in one area of it's habitat will help, or a heat rock you can purchase from a pet store is also useful-however, there have been some reports of burn injuries, watch your settings on them, and make sure it isn't shorting out or over heating. Once your animal GRADUALLY warms up, see a Vet that specializes in Reptiles, familiar with your species-before introducing food!
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 Originally Posted by Wildlife007
I realize you are trained in Wildlife Vet care. My research (starting with the site I posted) says that ball pythons do not hibernate (although they can enter a and strongly discourages "hot rocks" due to reports of burns and death. They can go into a state called Brumation in anticipation of breeding or for self preservation. Can you post another, more reliable source than what I have posted? |
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My 'research' is hands on and years of experience. I understood this to be a site that is meant to be of useful assistance to people who care enough about our natural world to ask questions and expect a truthful explanation in terms they can understand. Iguanas are from S America, their species being from a Tropical (south of the equator)zone- DO NOT, and are not KNOWN to hibernate-due to the region (biological climatic zone) however, we have them falling out of trees like rain-due to sudden HIBERNATION as temps fall to unfavorable conditions as low as 32, as well as Cuban Night Anoles and Turtles all suffering from the COLD, yes, EVEN the BURMEESE PYTHONS that have invaded The Everglades, hibernating to survive. Many of these species coming into the wildlife hospital by the dozens. Hibernation is NOT a species specific technique, but is a defensive mechanisim that occurs due to a chemical change in their system brought on by unfavorable temperatures that threaten it's ability to survive. The metobolisim begins to slow down-to conserve calories. Then all calories and system functions are directed to life support. As for the heat rocks, we have several of them, and are quite useful-when monitored-as I mentioned above. I stand by what I said, and have no inclination to compete or 'prove' myself in this forum.I am a Trained Wildlife Vet Asst. as well as a Master Naturalist, with years of experience-I have nothing to prove here-and desire only to help
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Originally Posted by Wildlife007
I wasn't insulting you or asking you to "prove" anything - I was asking why an Internet site was different from what you posted. I have no knowledge of about the care of snakes and only know what I read. Internet sites are very often wrong. Did I refer the OP to an incorrect site? I asked for clarification. If I had challenged you I wouldn't have been as polite and pleasant. No one here has anything to prove, by the way. Again - I'm sorry and surprised you took offense. |
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JudyKayTee-I am or was not insulted. I have answered up to 200 calls a day at the wildlife hospital from the general public. Although with this weather I glad it's not me up there this weekend. I am a direct straightforward person, I do not rely on the internet as the last word, only a reference point for guidance of further research. Therefore, I do not have anything but my experience 25 years, and my schooling to depend on. Although I am a new member here, I am far from it where the biological science is applied. I don't very often have spare time to answer questions on here-but felt that this individual made an honest mistake-that may prove to be fatal, with his pet.Therefore, in a few short words, I was simply trying to stress to them that the animal needs medical intervention, and that although it may not be known for THAT species to hibernate in it's NATIVE climate, it's not about the SPECIES, it's about how the anatomical system works under duress, such as extreme temps. & self preservation.
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