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    preveyk Posts: 2, Reputation: 1
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    Mar 6, 2009, 12:44 AM
    Sewer Lining or Pipe Burst or push PVC to riser?
    I have an aging sewer pipe. Just so happens that the aging part goes under a main artery/road. Pipe under road is the infamous concrete pipe that is showing aggregate on the bottom. :eek:

    I had my share of backups but thankfully they all went out the clean-out. I kept it open just for that occasion but had a cover over it so no one could throw stuff down it. I had it jetted recently and probably 3 or 5 cameras down it for sewer quotes.

    The city came in and fixed the riser since no camera ever made it to the main. So now I have a new riser and 30 feet of aging concrete pipe. Now for the questions:

    1. Is pipe bursting better than lining? I know the difference by the way the two, but nothing definitively says one is better than the other.

    2. Is there any way at all, to insert a PVC pipe, in increments, all the way to the riser? It is a crazy idea but if I have a concrete pipe that is 7 inch for example, logically a 6 inch would go inside of it. Poor mans pipe burst. I can't see why it wouldn't be possible, as long as there are no crazy bends and nothing in the concrete pipe that I am going to hit... broken piece etc.
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    speedball1 Posts: 29,301, Reputation: 1939
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    Mar 6, 2009, 05:52 AM
    1. Is pipe bursting better than lining? I know the difference by the way the two, but nothing definitively says one is better than the other.
    Please explain, "pipe bursting".
    2. Is there any way at all, to insert a PVC pipe, in increments, all the way to the riser? It is a crazy idea but if I have a concrete pipe that is 7 inch for example, logically a 6 inch would go inside of it. Poor mans pipe burst. I can't see why it wouldn't be possible, as long as there are no crazy bends and nothing in the concrete pipe that I am going to hit... broken piece etc.
    Let me explain a bit more about my drainage problem and how I repaired it. 54 year old house. The builder used sub standard cast iron in the drainage. The 4" house main was completely ate up on the bottom of the pipe , blocked with roots and welling up in my living room floor. I was sure that the main had broke in two and I would have to jack hammer up the floor and tunnel under the foundation to transition to PVC, pick up the back bath and move the main outside the house but I had to know what was going on under the slab so a friend suggested running a camera down there. There was no distinct break in the main, however,it was completely ate up on the bottom. That's when Rooter Man of Sarasota and Gulf Coast Florida suggested relining the main, (see image). It took a day to clear the roots and pressure jet clean the main. Next day they came back and relined the main with epoxy. I now have a sewer main that will out last me, (50 year guarantee) and the best part is that I didn't have to, tear up my house and the cost was under half of what I figured to take the main outside around the house. Another bonus was that it was done without tearing up or disturbing my house. When they were finished I kept a piece of the epoxy liner to check it out. It was white and had the same thickness of Schedule#40 PVC.
    I was amazed at the equipment RooterMan had outside my place. The equipment he had cost upwards of $100,000.00. Hi tech stuff that took a technician to run it. There were 3 men and 2 trucks to do the job. And it was completed in two days. Lottsa difference from the old days when I went out on a sewer call with a Ridged K-60 Sewer Machine and a ladder to get to the roof vent. I just wanted to point out that there's another option besides replacing drainage that the years have ruined. If your pipes are a candidate for a reline job I strongly suggest you look into it before you decide to replace the drainage pipes. I did and saved a bundle in addition to keeping my home intact. Just thought I would share that with you all. Regards and thank you for rating my answer, Tom
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    Mar 6, 2009, 09:51 AM

    Preveyk: what city are you in ?
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    Mar 6, 2009, 02:26 PM

    Tacoma Washington south of Seattle

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