[samoore]

I have recently acquired a White Family Rotary sewing machine. Can anyone tell me about the machine. The only markings I found were the model number

[Fr_Chuck]

And what are the model numbers before I do a web search

But if you merely put in White Rotary sewing and the serial number you should get lots of info

[samoore]

Fr252864

[Clough]

I did find some date ranges for serial numbers on the following site. whites If what is below is correct, then it would appear that the date of manufacture would be either 1908 or 1909.

FR 238519 1908
FR 256000 1909

Also, below is some other information from the site above. There is more information on the site, as well as some pictures. The site is worth it to go and have a look at it.

White was, next to Singer, perhaps the largest and best known of the US sewing machine companies. Unlike Singer, they did not offer many different models, or change models very often. Their engineering was extremely good, and their products stood the test of time. The introduced their VS machine in the late 1870's and manufactured it with minor improvements into the early 1900's. They introduced a new model, the Family Rotary, or FR, which was a very well designed and strong machine, in the late 1890's and manufactured this design, with some variations, up until WW II.

Unfortunately, there is nowhere near as much information on the White Company as on Singer. The company was founded by Thomas White, who had some prior experience in sewing machine manufacture. He located in Cleveland, Ohio (down a main street from where I lived as a child, actually). The company was formed in 1876. White was a large and prosperous company, giving Singer a run for their money. White took over the Domestic and King sewing machine companies and eventually became White Consolidated Industries. They ceased manufacturing in the United States sometime after WWII, probably the late 60's or early 70's. After that their machines were made in Japan.

The White machines found today are very usable. There is one serious consideration as to the VS machines... the shuttle and bobbin are unique. The shuttle has a post in it, and the bobbin has a hollow core. The bobbin is loaded into the shuttle by sliding onto the post. These shuttles and bobbins are not available and somewhat difficult to find. Should you locate and consider a White vibrating shuttle machine, be sure it has it's shuttle and a bobbin or two.

The White FR or Family Rotary is the most common White. They are a truly outstanding machine. If you find a good one, don't pass it up. One caution on this model... I always tell people that "White is Singer spelled backwards...". Everything about the White is the reverse of the Singer... the handwheel rotates away from you instead of toward you, and the thread rolls off the bobbin in the favored, or easy, direction, not cutting back over a lip as on Singer round bobbins. One of the more common "help" calls on Treadle On is from new White owners who can't get their machine to stitch because they are trying to make it turn the same direction as a Singer.

If you go to the Treadle On Links Page (scroll down the main index page till you find it) you will find links to other sites with information on White. Alan Quinn's site at: http://www.demon.co.uk/quinn/manuals/white/index.html has a copy of the White Rotary manual.

White owned their own forests and operated their own cabinet factories, rather than contracting this out. They were noted for having the highest quality of cabinets. Their library table and Martha Washington sewing cabinet model electrics are classics, as is the Mission or Arts and Crafts treadle.

White Numbers/Years

The White company (still in business) has some serial number records and will date machines. Their record and numbering system is/was not as organized as Singers, so there are some problems. However, we are assembling a record of known dates to provide a rough comparison ability.

[Clough]

Below, are some sites that also might provide some helpful information concerning dating, manuals and parts, etc. for old White machines.

AllBrands.com - White Sewing Machine or Serger Instruction Book or Operating Manual - Specify Model Number UPS GROUND ONLY

http://www.sew2go.com/manual.htm#operating


http://www.demon.co.uk/quinn/manuals/white/index.html

[Clough]

Fr_Chuck agrees: looks good, no need for me to do a search

Thanks Fr_Chuck! You didn't appear to be around, so I thought that I would have a try at finding the information. You are correct that there is a lot of information available on the Internet concerning those particular sewing machines. Very easy to find.

[samoore]

Thanks so much for the info, I really appreciate it.

[fireftnchick]

Try this site, Katie has been doing an extensive research project of White sewing machines. She has authorized info on the site.

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