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I'm an atheist and have been since I was very young. I always had a great argument due to being brought up in a religious home, but never had the answer as to how religion came into play. My friend brought this video over to my house and it seemed a little boring at first, then about ten minutes into it, I realized this may very well be the answer to my question!! I've researched arguments against the facts here and have found none that out weigh the obvious. The thing is, I'm shocked at how it was in my face and every ones face all this time. Please watch this segment and tell me what you think and if you can see another truth. Best regards, Greg Q
just watched a little bit its quite good will watch the rest later its true the beginning why does he need money? god i mean
Why in the world would G-d need money, better yet how dose he get it??? The church has his mailing address and they send it to him so he can fund "Go to H-e-l-l projects" or "Wings for Angels projects"
Really G-d dosen't personally use the money, how would he? The church does. So they can pay their preachers and preists and then give it to the poor. The point is to give money to people who need it so they can buy food, have homes, ect.
I watched the movie, and it has just as many flaws as does the Bible. I think you need to take in to account that it was written well over a thousand years ago, it has changed since it's been translated over and over again...books have even been left out. Just because all of it might not be true, I'm certain that there is some amount of truth. For even in lies there is truth.
Another thing. Some religons don't beleive in Hell. They think that if G-d really loves you then he wouldn't sentance you to eternal pain and misery. (this was in part of the intro)
Beleive whatever you want, I'm not here to stop you. But if your going to allow yourself to be brainwashed by a movie ment to encourage atheism then be warned. Try to make your own assumptions about weather there is a G-d or not, it's easier to truly beleive something if you are the one who makes the asumptions about it...though I think you already have.
Hi. I'm a good Southern Catholic girl - a contradiction in terms it seems. I think that whatever your beliefs may be, especially unpopular beliefs, it takes balls to share them.
Why in the world would G-d need money, better yet how dose he get it??? The church has his mailing address and they send it to him so he can fund "Go to H-e-l-l projects" or "Wings for Angels projects"
Really G-d dosen't personally use the money, how would he? The church does. So they can pay their preachers and preists and then give it to the poor. The point is to give money to people who need it so they can buy food, have homes, ect.
I watched the movie, and it has just as many flaws as does the Bible. I think you need to take in to account that it was written well over a thousand years ago, it has changed since it's been translated over and over again...books have even been left out. Just because all of it might not be true, I'm certain that there is some amount of truth. For even in lies there is truth.
Another thing. Some religons don't beleive in Hell. They think that if G-d really loves you then he wouldn't sentance you to eternal pain and misery. (this was in part of the intro)
Beleive whatever you want, I'm not here to stop you. But if your going to allow yourself to be brainwashed by a movie ment to encourage atheism then be warned. Try to make your own assumptions about weather there is a G-d or not, it's easier to truly beleive something if you are the one who makes the asumptions about it...though I think you already have.
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I was hoping for a better response. I'm not really sure if you did watch the movie, or if you only watched the first 2 minutes. You seem a little angry, the movie does take into account when the bible was written. This documentary clearly shows the mistakes in the translation. In fact, that is what the movie is about. I'm not interested in fighting someone over this, I'm here for a discussion. If you feel you are too busy to watch the video, then move on. My question is directed at people who are willing to view it, and share their views. The joke at the beginning of the movie is the last thing I would have expected come up as conversation after having watched the first segment.
sorry I didn't specify...I watched part of the movie and I may have been doing something else while listening to it. That thing is an hour long!!!
My point was the movie could be biased just as much as the Bible.
Not fighting, just warning that some things are biased. Kind of like you can't trust a politician to tell you the truth about the government because they'll give there version which really isn't the truth. Same with this, you can't be objective about making a movie or a book (Bible) about your own religon.
Sorry if I came off as mad (it's been a horrible day )
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE disagrees: Why do you need evidence to believe in something? Do you demand your girlfreind or wife every night that you need evidence that she loves you? No, and that sounds just darn right silly. She would probably reply, 'You need to have faith that I love yo
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OK... That would come down to "TRUST" not faith. If my girlfriend cheated on me and abused me and showed me so much (EVIDENCE) that she hated me, and then if she were to say "you need to have faith that I love you." that would be ridiculous, she earns my trust everyday based on how I treat her and how she treats me. What a silly uneducated reason to go tossing around your reds. If your liberal views of not needing evidence to believe in something was as broad as the ridiculousness as that statement... there would be a lot more innocence in prison, frankly the entire world would fall apart.
It seems you simply did not like my question and wanted to express it by blindly throwing stones. If people didn't ask questions we would still think the earth was flat. Get on topic or move to the next thread and quit picking at straws in mine.
OK... That would come down to "TRUST" not faith. If my girlfriend cheated on me and abused me and showed me so much (EVIDENCE) that she hated me, and then if she were to say "you need to have faith that I love you." that would be ridiculous, she earns my trust everyday based on how I treat her and how she treats me. What a silly uneducated reason to go tossing around your reds. If your liberal views of not needing evidence to believe in something was as broad as the ridiculousness of that statement... there would be a lot more innocence in prison, frankly the entire world would fall apart.
It seems you simply did not like my question and wanted to express it by blindly throwing stones. If people didn't ask questions we would still think the earth was flat. Get on topic or move to the next thread and quit picking at straws in mine.
I think they did answer your question though. The point was to get an opinion about if we could see a different truth and well they answered with the truth they saw. Maybe not what you personally wanted to hear, but all the same an answer.
Personally I think trust and faith are one in the same, with faith you trust that there is a
G-d with just trust you trust that your girlfriend is being loyal or that she loves you.
This whole thing basically comes down to one of the biggest questions man kind has ever asked, is there a G-d? and answers are bound to be different.
Haven't watched the clip yet, but I will. I just really wanted to comment on this:
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Gernald agrees: Balancer: He's talking about religons brainwashing us. They probably are but that's not the point is it? Atheism is a type of religon (like it or not) and it to has the ability to brainwash.
I know this is a bit off topic, but please read this article:
I have seem the first part of zeitgeist and it was very intresting and i am a not beliver in god.
One thing for sure is when the end of the world happens some people are goona be disapointent christians belive in god jesus jehovahs belive in him muslims belive in Allah and so on but which one of these people is gonna be there if any
OK... That would come down to "TRUST" not faith. If my girlfriend cheated on me and abused me and showed me so much (EVIDENCE) that she hated me, and then if she were to say "you need to have faith that I love you." that would be ridiculous, she earns my trust everyday based on how I treat her and how she treats me. What a silly uneducated reason to go tossing around your reds. If your liberal views of not needing evidence to believe in something was as broad as the ridiculousness of that statement... there would be a lot more innocence in prison, frankly the entire world would fall apart.
It seems you simply did not like my question and wanted to express it by blindly throwing stones. If people didn't ask questions we would still think the earth was flat. Get on topic or move to the next thread and quit picking at straws in mine.
Hello Greg,
I, myself, watched the entire clip (yes all 2 hours of it!) and might I say that although there were some good 'pointers' in it, people endlessly try to find excuses not to have faith. Why? Becuase something that is not 'physically' there is unreal. Because you posted this thread, expect to hear the worst. Don't assume that you are going to read what you want to. You asked for opinions; you asked for a discussion and now you are going to get one.
I apologize if I offended your beliefs and do not want to 'argue' over this matter. In my opinion, faith and trust walk in the same shoes. I can understand why it is difficult for most people not to believe something that isn't even there. At one time I did question my beliefs as well, but then decided that if I didn't trust the lord, then I didn't trust myself.
Do you believe in the afterlife? Resserection? Armegadon? Revelations? Ghosts? Entities? Spirits? Souls? I would love to hear your opinion on those!
- a contradiction in terms it seems. I think that whatever your beliefs may be, especially unpopular beliefs, it takes balls to share them.
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